Disney will be open on April 1st of 2020???

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marni1971

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Totally respect your WDW knowledge, and also totally respect your desire not to give an outright guess. That said, let me see if I can finesse this a little bit with you, lol. If you personally had WDW vacation plans in July, what level of excitement would you still have at this point? Can I get you to bite on that?!
I’d still be looking forward to it, although I’d expect things to be different to last year.
 

MisterPenguin

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Keep in mind Disney has enormous governmental control, so legally they would probably be exempt from any county-specific order. Realistically they would never not comply, nor will they likely be open before may.

On a municipal level, yes. They are basically their own town.

But not at all at a county, state, or federal level.

If the county shuts down, WDW shuts down.

If the state has a resort fee, WDW pays it. WDW also has to abide by all the state water management laws and can be told point blank, "No, you can't build there, that's protected waterways." WDW is lucky that Florida isn't as much as a stickler for inspection and approval of building codes and guest safety rules for all amusement parks. But if Florida wanted to be as restrictive as California, WDW would have to comply.

WDW has to pay all the Federal taxes: Income and the employer's portion of Social Security and has to abide by all the federal labor laws.

So, WDW does not have 'enormous governmental control.'
 

donsullivan

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My 'guess' right now is that Disney is waiting on and likely working with Osceola County for that county to issue a similar order to what Orange County did yesterday. Since the RCID property spans both counties they'd like to be subject to similar rules across the entirety of the property. Once that is sorted out (likely later today) we'll likely see the announcement of the extension from Disney. My guess is that it's the same April 9 timeline as Orange County at this point and then continue to re-assess. They've already told their employees to comply with the Orange County order so it's just working out the mechanics of things now.
 

trainplane3

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I’d rather not. In case some runs with it as gospel despite it being a guess.
Then what do you call this?
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Nunu

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We could all use some levity right now. As soon as I saw some of my favorite members posting here, I had to put this thread on "watch"! :geek:
 

thomas998

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People need to know that WDW themselves will update the website and that they will contact people with reservations and deuces changes and reschedule options. Don’t always believe media, call Disney Vacation Specialists.
So you've just created an account so you can post an advertisement for Disney Vacation Specialist?

Sorry but no one in some travel agency or in Disney itself is going to predict when the will open because right now the governors and mayors are the ones that will be instituting lockdowns, stay at homes, and gathering bans which is what will dictate more than anything when an amusement park can even think about opening.
 

thomas998

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Keep in mind Disney has enormous governmental control, so legally they would probably be exempt from any county-specific order. Realistically they would never not comply, nor will they likely be open before may.
True that Disney set itself up to be outside the control of the cities near its parks.. but they could not exclude themselves from control by the County or State. I'm sure they wish they could but that isn't how things work.
 

TrojanUSC

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On a municipal level, yes. They are basically their own town.

But not at all at a county, state, or federal level.

If the county shuts down, WDW shuts down.

If the state has a resort fee, WDW pays it. WDW also has to abide by all the state water management laws and can be told point blank, "No, you can't build there, that's protected waterways." WDW is lucky that Florida isn't as much as a stickler for inspection and approval of building codes and guest safety rules for all amusement parks. But if Florida wanted to be as restrictive as California, WDW would have to comply.

WDW has to pay all the Federal taxes: Income and the employer's portion of Social Security and has to abide by all the federal labor laws.

So, WDW does not have 'enormous governmental control.'

Of course they're bound by all state, federal and some county laws. That was not my point at all. The state gave them a lot of unnecessary leeway to govern their area, though - including a nuclear power plant if they wanted.
 

TrojanUSC

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Could you please provide a source that states that lockdown = no driving? Of course, there are very few places open to drive to, but my understanding was that people could still drive to places that were open (groceries, etc) and for all practical purposes could drive around as long as they have little or no person to person contact with anyone. Especially delivery people, truck drivers, etc.

So I'm not sure the onus will be on employees, but rather employers, to go into lockdown. Of course, in areas where the majority of people do not drive personal cars on a daily basis the lockdown is handled differently.

It depends on the state and the specific order. One of the issues with this whole response is its such a patchwork without much standardization.

In Los Angeles and San Francisco, for example, you are forbidden to leave the house except to perform an "essential service." The definition of that is pretty broad - for example you can go to work (but only assuming you work in something that would be classified as essential - such as healthcare, banks, airport, etc), get groceries, go for a walk to exercise, take your pet for a walk, seek medical care, etc. Lots of exceptions but "going for a joyride" would not be among them.
 

The Mom

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It depends on the state and the specific order. One of the issues with this whole response is its such a patchwork without much standardization.

In Los Angeles and San Francisco, for example, you are forbidden to leave the house except to perform an "essential service." The definition of that is pretty broad - for example you can go to work (but only assuming you work in something that would be classified as essential - such as healthcare, banks, airport, etc), get groceries, go for a walk to exercise, take your pet for a walk, seek medical care, etc. Lots of exceptions but "going for a joyride" would not be among them.

I was asking a poster, specifically talking about the Orlando area, who was saying that it was illegal for non-essential workers to be driving. AFAIK, no county in FL has not stated that you can't go for a joy ride - but it is possible. Which is why I asked for a source.
 

Elfinko

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Just asked our travel agent to push our vacation out to late September once WDW announces April closings. We were booked 4/19 thru 4/26. No way WDW is open in April. Even our local amusement park pushed their opening day till mid-May.
 

donsullivan

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MickeyLuv'r

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It depends on the state and the specific order. One of the issues with this whole response is its such a patchwork without much standardization.

But this is the county we have.
The country we have always had, so I'm not sure why anyone suddenly expects our laws to be different. Each state gets to create policies that best fit the needs of their state.

In some ways, we are all in this together, but in other ways I don't find it at all crazy to think this might impact different states and territories in different ways. Alaska might be better set up for remote learning or food distribution than NYC, TN or WV (or the opposite).

Nor is the distribution of this virus uniform across different parts of the country.

This is a complicated situation, and I don't think our fed government is elaborate enough to monitor the details of every municipality.

In this situation, we need every municipality to be paying close attention to what is happening in their own area and making adjustments as needed by their citizens.
 
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