Disney to start Furloughs April 19th

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Lilofan

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asianway said:
Doesn’t matter. Try finding 77,000 bodies in the Orlando area. If they all walked off the job on a normal day they could cripple the place
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The chances of fixing the Yeti at AK is better. Hundreds of thousands in Central Florida are without a job at the present time.
 
ThatMouse

ThatMouse

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I think you can still get unemployment insurance when furloughed, although you have to show that you've applied to 3 jobs each week which is not helpful even when you are really looking for a new job, stacking up that many interviews at once for career positions. At least now no one is doing full interviews.
 
bluetiedye

bluetiedye

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ThatMouse said:
I think you can still get unemployment insurance when furloughed, although you have to show that you've applied to 3 jobs each week which is not helpful even when you are really looking for a new job, stacking up that many interviews at once for career positions. At least now no one is doing full interviews.
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That requirement has been waived in the state of Florida, due to the present crisis.
 
ImperfectPixie

ImperfectPixie

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Ouray said:
The Company would continue to pay its share during the furlough and the employee would be on the hook for any back premiums incurred during the furlough.
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I live in MA, hubby is non-union. That's basically what's happening with him. The company is willing to keep paying their share, as long as we pick up the costs for ours.
 
peter11435

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Ouray said:
I'd like to point out that the furlough language in the STCU contract states that furloughed employees shall retain medical insurance. So yes, on the surface, it may appear that the Union is negotiating for what is already provisioned. However, if employees aren't working, does the provision as written mean that the employees owe their share of health insurance premiums whilst furloughed? I'd argue that under the most natural reading of the contract, the answer would be yes. The Company would continue to pay its share during the furlough and the employee would be on the hook for any back premiums incurred during the furlough. This isn't what the Company is doing for Executive, Salaried, and Non-Union hourly employees. As previously stated in multiple news articles, for these employees, the Company is paying the portion of health care premiums normally picked up by the employee during the furlough. Because the STCU contract is vague, and again, based on a natural reading of the language, I construe the language to mean that even during furlough, the employee is responsible for his or her premiums, the Union is most likely negotiating for the same treatment as the non-union employees so that folks don't have large sums of money to pay when the furlough ends.

Also, the contract only allows for a thirty day furlough. I think everyone agrees that this furlough might need to run a touch longer than thirty days. Unfortunately, the option after the thirty day clock runs out seems to be return to work, or at least return to pay, or layoff. For obvious reasons, employees don't want to be laid off. To my mind, it would benefit the Company to figure out how to create a longer furlough period as well. Furlough is hitting pause on ones employment, benefits stay in place, vacation and sick time stays banked, etc. Lay off is true separation, one would no longer be employed by the Company. Operations are going to have to resume at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later. For this to happen quickly, it's going to be a lot easier for the Company to bring back furloughed employees, kind of picking up where one left of, than it is to re-onboard tens of thousands of employees, even if some are eligible for retained seniority under the recall provisions of the contract. This thirty day timeline could also be an issue that's being discussed or negotiated. The thirty day language is specifically written in the contract, I'm not certain if it could be amended by an agreement between STCU and the Company without putting the new language to a vote, not practical during normal times, let alone these times. I have theories on how to get around the thirty day language without laying off employees, and this could also be what's being negotiated.
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The point is the union is “fighting” for what the company has already given and provided to the non-union employees. Makes it hard for the union to appear valuable and important to its members when those without union representation got the same thing without a “fight.” Or $10 a week out of their paychecks.
 
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TTA94

TTA94

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Are they going to wait until the last minute/19th to let regular WDW CMs know if they are getting furloughed?
 
peter11435

peter11435

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mnelson3 said:
Are they going to wait until the last minute/19th to let WDW CMs know if they are getting furloughed?
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They’ve already let more than half know officially. The rest are just held up by the ongoing conversations with the union. CM’s should already know they are being furloughed. It’s happening. No stopping it. It’s just a matter of setting specifics with the union so the union can spin it to make themselves appear valuable to their members in the process.
 
TTA94

TTA94

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If they do plan to reopen around June, why furlough employees just for a month and a half or so? I know June is just a guess and not official.
 
donsullivan

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ThatMouse said:
I think you can still get unemployment insurance when furloughed, although you have to show that you've applied to 3 jobs each week which is not helpful even when you are really looking for a new job, stacking up that many interviews at once for career positions. At least now no one is doing full interviews.
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I've seen multiple reports that many states are waiving the requirement to prove you're searching for something new for a period during all of this mess.
 
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ImperfectPixie

ImperfectPixie

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donsullivan said:
I've seen multiple reports that many states are waving the requirement to prove you're searching for something new for a period during all of this mess.
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Yup. MA is one of them. As long as you are available for work when asked to return and are in regular contact with your employer, you can still collect unemployment.
 

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