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News Disney to relax mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

doctornick

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They will absolutely remove mask mandates before children are vaccinated. The question is when.
Okay, I don’t disagree. I’m suggesting that when/if the CDC comes out and says that children don’t need masks indoors (regardless of vaccination status) then it will provide the cover they need to just drop any remaining restrictions.
 

DisneyCane

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Also, CA officially announced that masks will not be mandatory at large outdoor events (such as Disneyland) starting June 15. I’d expect this one to be a 2fer.
Is CA the only State left with a mask mandate or are there others?
Just to be clear about my point: I totally get that "no masks for vaccinated" essentially means that almost no one will wear a mask... in a store or restaurant or such. I'm not sure you can extrapolate that to WDW though. If a store doesn't bother to enforce a mask policy, no one care or will do anything about it. It's just a CYA posting that is meaningless.

But WDW is a whole different animal because of media and public attention, more than other theme parks as has been mentioned often. And the problem is kids. If Disney has an official policy of "unvaccinated need to be masked" and they have craploads of kids 2-11 years old running around in their parks, they either have to be bad guys and police them (don't see that happening) or get criticized for having policies and not following them (basically, lying about safety). I think it's a hard situation and any media attention will be on "Disney doesn't care about protecting kids" who can't be vaccinated. I just don't think they can ignore the obvious inconsistency by not enforcing masks when they obviously "should be" based on their rule. It's simpler and "more fair" to just keep on having masks indoors for everyone for the time being. That puts them in total compliance with CDC recommendations (albeit overkill by having vaccinated people wearing masks). Just IMHO

Now, if the CDC does indeed announce that children under 12 do not need to mask due to low transmission rates/infection risks/etc, then that's massive. Sure, once that happens, I could see Disney rapidly removing any mask mandates.
Lots of people (depending on the area) still wear masks in stores. Whether or not they are the unvaccinated or the vaccinated is not clear.

The thing is that Disney really can't enforce an "unvaccinated have to wear masks policy" at WDW due to executive order and soon to be Florida law.

What could they do, have you show your CDC card for a no mask wristband? That certainly would be a lot of payroll and then it would be difficult to enforce in queues anyway.

They need to have a blanket policy one way or the other. Either keep it as now and make the vaccinated unnecessarily wear masks indoors or go with the honor system and don't make any attempt to enforce it.
 

PrincessNelly_NJ

Well-Known Member
I don't see how it is "respectful" for somebody who is fully vaccinated to put on a mask when approaching a CM outdoors (the only place they aren't required at WDW). The CDC has concluded that outdoors is extremely low risk for the unvaccinated.

I really don't get how something that was science based before vaccines were available is morphing into a virtue signaling exercise.

I can understand somebody who still feels safer masking when they don't have to but to do it to show respect just doesn't compute but that's just my opinion.
CM or any person I'm interacting with doesn't know my vaccination status. So for me - its not hard to put it on to talk to them then take it off when I walk away. Its about making them feel more comfortable for me.

I'm not saying everyone has to do what I do - its MY personal choice.
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
Is CA the only State left with a mask mandate or are there others?

Lots of people (depending on the area) still wear masks in stores. Whether or not they are the unvaccinated or the vaccinated is not clear.

The thing is that Disney really can't enforce an "unvaccinated have to wear masks policy" at WDW due to executive order and soon to be Florida law.

What could they do, have you show your CDC card for a no mask wristband? That certainly would be a lot of payroll and then it would be difficult to enforce in queues anyway.

They need to have a blanket policy one way or the other. Either keep it as now and make the vaccinated unnecessarily wear masks indoors or go with the honor system and don't make any attempt to enforce it.
I believe the direction things are going is for guests to be requested (not directed) to wear masks in indoor areas if not vaccinated and / or if vaccinated and they feel more comfortable with one on they can choose to do so. An audio announcement utilizing a pleasant voice would do nicely.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
CM or any person I'm interacting with doesn't know my vaccination status. So for me - its not hard to put it on to talk to them then take it off when I walk away. Its about making them feel more comfortable for me.

I'm not saying everyone has to do what I do - its MY personal choice.
You can choose to do whatever you want to do. My question was related to approaching a CM outdoors, where, based on CDC guidelines, your vaccination status shouldn't be of concern to the CM.

Aside from that, by this point, if the CM was concerned, they have had ample opportunity to be fully vaccinated.
 
Also, CA officially announced that masks will not be mandatory at large outdoor events (such as Disneyland) starting June 15. I’d expect this one to be a 2fer.
Outdoor event do have rules:
  • At outdoor events with over 10,000 participants, like festivals, parades, sporting events and concerts, the state is recommending verification of vaccination or a negative coronavirus test. Or, if the person is neither vaccinated nor tested, venues can give them the option to attend but with a mask required.
  • At indoor venues with more than 5,000 guests, the state is now requiring, not just recommending, verification of vaccination or a negative coronavirus test. That includes conventions, sporting events and concerts.

Regarding children, I think it is well known at this point that the CDC is going to issue updated guidance for them in the near future that basically says they children younger than 12, who can't be vaccinated at this point, don't really need to be wearing masks in school. Walensky herself basically said as much on TV. The exact timing of that update is uncertain, but it's coming. Now, while the CDC may focus specifically on schools, that is essentially going to be the final shoe to drop. If children and adults can be congregated together in a school all day long without masks, it makes no sense what-so-ever to require them to wear them when making a trip to Walmart or going on a ride at Disney. And no one is going to enforce masks on young children at that point, if they are even enforcing them now.
Regarding children, I think it is well known at this point that the CDC is going to issue updated guidance for them in the near future that basically says they children younger than 12, who can't be vaccinated at this point, don't really need to be wearing masks in school.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
here in Oregon, all mask mandates will go away when we hit 70% first shot given to all residents...we're at 65% roughly now...still about 85k people short...the Oregon Health Authority says we ough to hit that around the 21st or so
Some states in the Northeast have done the same. PA where I am it’s 70% fully vaccinated before we drop all covid mitigations. Masks are already not required for fully vaccinated people but the mandate still stands for unvaccinated. It’s about 50/50 on businesses adopting. We should hit 70% by end of June.
 

dreday3

Well-Known Member
Erm...that site said no masks most places outside of transportation starting on June 15th for Disney? Optional indoor for fully vaccinated and they won't be asking for proof of vaccination. Any verified sources?
 
Erm...that site said no masks most places outside of transportation starting on June 15th for Disney? Optional indoor for fully vaccinated and they won't be asking for proof of vaccination. Any verified sources?
Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order in April barring businesses from requiring customers to show proof they have been vaccinated against COVID-19.

So I don't believe Disney can ever ask our vaccine status in Florida.

As far as the rest I don't know, but as of today that's how it is in IL and on the 15th it seems many states are going that route as well. We are wide open here in IL starting today and under 1% .
 

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