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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevebwv" data-source="post: 9965211" data-attributes="member: 86520">False.  All vaccines include risks beyond the disease the vaccine is trying to keep at bay and the COVID vaccine is no different.  That does not mean the risks outweigh the rewards but you are factual wrong in your declaration.    Again, this is just not accurate.  Whether it is the clotting risk to adult women or myocarditis to young men there are risks associated with the vaccine.  This hyperbole shows how dishonest you are with this debate.  The vast majority of infections are mild and for those under 30 most all infections are asymptomatic.  The only way we know IFRs is by testing those showing no signs of illness.  The survival rate for covid for those under 70 is over 99.5% so the virus does not "tear your organs apart".   .  If you really want to get people to get vaccinated be truthful and accurate about the risks both of an infection and the vaccination.  Why should I trust your opinion on the vax when your rants are so obviously false?</blockquote>