crispy
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Disney statement on Walt Disney World entertainment
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TrainsOfDisney
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When operating 100%, the wdw resort is a special place because of how large and complex it is. Once I had to the grand for lunch and was going to take the boat back to Mk. It was so peaceful on the dock I waited for the next boat and just watched the herons, monorails, and boats for a bit.
I’m not gonna get that same experience at a place like Disneyland or Universal even though it’s nice to hop out of the park.
But if we are talking about just value for money and the ability to ride the most rides and enjoy the most quality entertainment I think Universal Florida and Disneyland Resort easily beat out WDW.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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wonder how much she makes an hour.
spectromagic04
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Anyone hearing about cuts to the cavalcades? Since yesterday November 1st people are reporting less performers and characters for each cavalcade. Couple random people on Twitter also said they wouldn’t be surprised if they just get entirely cut. Anyone know if this is true or just some rumor?
jensenrick
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Very that! I've been a fan of Disney theme parks for 45 years, so I've put up with a lot of ups and downs, but that?! That really REALLY sticks in my craw, and may affect whether or not I renew my AP coming up this december.
mm52200
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Due to the union negotiations most the cast brought back had to take transfers or a lay off. That was effective starting November 1. Most of the cast brought to back fill those positions are rehearsing for Christmas cavalcades that open Friday, leaving the “daily ops” cavalcades left to make do with the remaining cast they have for a few days.
So yes and no.
We would all need some heavy, heavy pharma if our employer was touting our joyful lawn frolics as an entirely new form of incredible entertainment suitable to replace an orchestra, stage show performances, musical dinner theater and streetmosphere.
That statement was so sad to me.
Gabe1
Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
What do you classify Six Flags parks nation wide as?
TrainsOfDisney
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Amusement Parks.
But naturally I don’t think I’m the person who gets to decide that, just my view.
NelleBelle
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An amusement park--unless you want to count Six Flags Magic Mountain's theme as home of the THC vape pen! Worst smelling park I've been to and a complete eyesore--nothing but concrete and steel. There is absolutely zero "theme" at their parks (except at Six Flag Fiesta Texas and I don't think they own that park anymore...shows how old I am when I lived there and went as a local).
twilight mitsuk
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and 400 gift shops
I think the best way to protest against Disney should basically take the form of diverting the money you were planning to spend on Disney to now go towards, Sea World, FunSpot America, or Universal parks. Get out of the bubble and spread the love for the other attractions down there!Quit spending money on anything Disney. Period. Parks, merchandise, movies, Disney +, everything. Quit engaging in anything Disney related - this includes internet forums, it really does. Have to drive the data so that it shows a decrease in interest. Same with NOT clicking on any news articles, just as with any other topic, every click shows interest. Don't like celebrity Z, every time you click on an article about Z it registers as 'interested in Z' and you'll keep seeing articles about Z.
So until you happen to see the headlines you've been wishing for, you don't read the article. Common wished for moves by Disney: "Disney to restore all entertainment" "will spend gazillions on new attractions", "open 5th gate", "shift more money to US parks" Wishes Fireworks Show to Return" "Marvel to be Removed!" "No more IP!"
"New CEO hired who is totally theme park focused who idolizes Walt and will reinstall Walt's vision" You know, that sort of thing.
Its the only way. But you have to get tens of millions, not just the 18 million who were going every year, but the tens of millions PLANNING on going to go along with you.
Not going to happen. Maybe that's too strong, lets say "very unlikely to happen." The tens of millions who weren't there 10, 20, 30, etc years ago don't know what they don't know, don't know what was (from personal experience) and are going there to visit what IS. Every year millions of new first time visitors go to visit What Is.
So, acceptance. Accept that the Disney you might have loved is gone and likely not returning. Accept that your personal Disney era is over. Then decide to go or not.
I'm not at the end of my personal Disney era yet. I still find value in spending some days in a place with happy music, generally happy often huge crowds of people, people gathered in one place seeking more or less the same things. There is a bond, an energy, a vitality that exists in that, that resonates through the spirit, the core. Its similar to any large event, and sports arena atmosphere. We've been to Disney on a couple of its busiest days of the year. Packed in tighter than a fraternity party on Greek Week, and it was marvelous and I recommend it, at least once.
Again, the only way to make the things you and so many of us seek to be important again to the company is have tens of millions of people around the world to just cease all Disney related interaction. Since the odds are against that, have to decide how much more you want to pound your head against the wall, how much digital ink to spill complaining and wishing, how much of your spirit to invest. Maybe that's the fun part of a great number of people in forums: the constant arguing, thought experiments, what ifs, whatever. But in the end for Disney: $$ talks, b.s. walks. Just a fact of life.
I'll be there in January. Going to be very interesting to say the least, and I suspect under my criteria, fun.
All the best!
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
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Actually? Just not going anywhere. Paying our DVC dues for 2021.... but planning on dumping, shortly before everyone else does.
50th is a GREAT time to dump the non-parks, with no staff, and no offerings
."All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong."
TrainsOfDisney
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I can see that.
The new quality of shows is beauty and the beast sing along and Mickey Shorts theatre.
DisneyTransport
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I would put my money on Disney playing it safe. The less variables the better, and in this case if you can run a show where everything is pre-recorded/reduced performances, why wouldn't you? They can reduce the need for skilled performers and labor costs. (its horrible, but it makes sense from a business perspective to reduce risk of the unexpected)
doctornick
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What about something like Hoop Dee Doo which is a clear financial model to support it?
TrainsOfDisney
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What’s the financial model? Disney doesn’t need a cast of equity performers, tech.’s and a live piano player to fill a restaurant do they? Couple of characters will do the trick.
Once you go down this road...
I don’t have any special insight, aside from noting that outside of peak weeks, Hoop has had very consistent ‘day of’ availability for the last few years. Insiders here have implied it’s been on the bubble for years.