News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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correcaminos

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I didn’t tell them to leave the country. They are pounding the drum of masking forever.

They posted an article showing how it was cultural norm in another part of the world. If that is what they desire it’s easier to move then it is to change an entire culture.

I only want them to be happy and comfortable in their environment. Plus Japan does have the worlds greatest Disney park.
I don't think anyone I've read anyone pounding for masks forever. Yes they suck but people pushing in a pandemic isn't pounding forever. If I misread your tone then I apologize, but I feel you missed how it read suggesting they move to Japan (without mention of parks)

I don't love them, but live with them. I expect to bring in 2 months and again this summer. Hating on them doesn't change the need to bring them.

My guess is they will drop before then. Bob REALLY wanted them gone before it got hot down there last year and I would be willing to bet they will push for the same this year.
With how quickly that backfired and how slow they were when numbers were low in November I wouldn't be shocked needing them indoors this summer again.
 

Trauma

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It is not a desire to worship masks but an honest desire to do what helps and protect myself as best I can. I'm not saying you have to wear a mask but this constant drumbeat that masks are useless and people wearing them are ill informed only the maskless know the real truth and they are crusading on the side of the right and mighty gets really old and cannot go unanswered when blatant false information is spewed.
The argument that masks don't work so why bother is specious and illogical.
I did not say masks are useless.

They have a purpose but that purpose is now.

It take issue with people who post suggesting that masking is so great we should continue it forever and it should be the new normal.

Just because masks work to help prevent the spread of illness doesn’t mean that we should wear them forever.

During this Omicron peak fine.

Once the numbers drop it’s time to accept that this is endemic and move on.
 

Trauma

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I don't think anyone I've read anyone pounding for masks forever. Yes they suck but people pushing in a pandemic isn't pounding forever. If I misread your tone then I apologize, but I feel you missed how it read suggesting the go to Japan (without mention of parks)

I don't love them, but live with them. I expect to bring in 2 months and again this summer. Hating on them doesn't change the need to bring them.


With how quickly that backfired and how slow they were when numbers were low in November I wouldn't be shocked needing them indoors this summer again.
The post that I originally responded to was the poster making an argument for masking being the new normal.

Maybe I’m confused what the new normal means but I interpreted that as masking forever.
 

JoeCamel

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I did not say masks are useless.

They have a purpose but that purpose is now.

It take issue with people who post suggesting that masking is so great we should continue it forever and it should be the new normal.

Just because masks work to help prevent the spread of illness doesn’t mean that we should wear them forever.

During this Omicron peak fine.

Once the numbers drop it’s time to accept that this is endemic and move on.
Where did I say masks forever?
I clearly said you can mask if you want to and I will do what I want but the drumbeat of masks are useless marches on. I did not say you said it but it is a common theme among several posters here.
 

correcaminos

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The post that I originally responded to was the poster making an argument for masking being the new normal.

Maybe I’m confused what the new normal means but I interpreted that as masking forever.
Maybe I read it differently but normal doesn't mean forever wearing masks. Just understanding they help when numbers are high. But that's my feeling. Spoken as someone who enjoyed zero masks for summer but is back to wearing and avoiding due to a close contact case. The one at risk had been tested but waiting the appropriate amount of time before risking others. New normal to me means being flexible and understanding. Means that right now you mask if where you live is awful without acting like a petulant child.

I still think it's rude to tell people to move because you don't agree with them - which is exactly what I called you out for.
 

CaptainAmerica

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Just calling it endemic doesn’t change or fix anything. It’s not exactly moving on when there are all sorts of shortages and disruptions.
Shortages and disruptions are because we're testing up the wazoo and keeping people who test positive out of work for a week. If we tested everyone for flu and common cold and made them stay home for a week, ANY endemic disease/virus would cause the same disruptions.

The virus isn't shutting us down, our overreaction to the virus is shutting us down.
 

Trauma

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Maybe I read it differently but normal doesn't mean forever wearing masks. Just understanding they help when numbers are high. But that's my feeling. Spoken as someone who enjoyed zero masks for summer but is back to wearing and avoiding due to a close contact case. The one at risk had been tested but waiting the appropriate amount of time before risking others. New normal to me means being flexible and understanding. Means that right now you mask if where you live is awful without acting like a petulant child.

I still think it's rude to tell people to move because you don't agree with them - which is exactly what I called you out for.
Helen I respect you so I don’t want to to get into a back and forth.

I’m not telling anyone to move on.

People can wear masks for however long they see fit.

I am vaxxed and boosted and my entire family has had Omni, caught it at Disney following all the mask rules.

I got it the worst with the sniffles that lasted a couple days.

Until I see scientific studies that show vaccinated and boosted people are at any statistically significant risk of death or long Covid from the current strain, I don’t see the continued need for mitigation efforts beyond vaccination when this wave passes.

If the vaccines prove to lose efficacy over time I will be happy to take another booster.
 

correcaminos

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Helen I respect you so I don’t want to to get into a back and forth.

I’m not telling anyone to move on.

People can wear masks for however long they see fit.

I am vaxxed and boosted and my entire family has had Omni, caught it at Disney following all the mask rules.

I got it the worst with the sniffles that lasted a couple days.

Until I see scientific studies that show vaccinated and boosted people are at any statistically significant risk of death or long Covid from the current strain, I don’t see the continued need for mitigation efforts beyond vaccination when this wave passes.

If the vaccines prove to lose efficacy over time I will be happy to take another booster.
I am quoting you here
Maybe you can move to Japan?
This is what I am talking about. Don't like your feelings? Move countries. I am so darn sick of hearing that mentality here in the United States. It's rude. Don't like masks in Disney? Don't go. But telling people to move to Japan because their ideals don't line up with yours? That's rude and uncaring.

I do not recall if you even tested positive or not but glad you weren't very sick. Some are luckier than others. Here i am trying to keep my kid in school as to not fall behind on his HS courses he's taking (he's not in HS yet) so a mandatory week out even with sniffles could hurt. So we vaccinated and boosted AND wear masks when needed. His exposure came from school the day he got boosted. If you are comfortable fine, just stop telling others they are wrong. My kid's schools require at all times outside of eating. If a bunch of middle school kids can handle it, we can certainly handle it in the parks indoors.

FTR my name isn't Helen - never realized that so many do not known Helena and pick a totally different sounding name when I chose that username 25 years ago. Hate Helen tbh as it's like nails on a chalkboard to hear to me with my name. Helena is pronounced like Elena- choice is yours with or without the H. Helena is just the Spanish (de España) version of Elena
 

Lilofan

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I didn’t tell them to leave the country. They are pounding the drum of masking forever.

They posted an article showing how it was cultural norm in another part of the world. If that is what they desire it’s easier to move then it is to change an entire culture.

I only want them to be happy and comfortable in their environment. Plus Japan does have the worlds greatest Disney park.
Don't know if the greatest but it surely is the cleanest parks and resorts. Japan locations compared to the domestic locations is like day and night.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
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Why? N95s are hard to find for kid/small adult faces. Wearing an adult size one on me is far worse than surgical. Which is what I wear. Plus they show that they do help. So why chuckle at people who have to mask when required and wear something good enough? I mean it's not like we had single layer of chiffon or something.
Any luck with KF94s?
You can go buy a oximeter and test if wearing a mask makes a notable difference.

Double masked - KN95 + cloth (because KN95/N95s are ugly) after an hour at Ikea... 100% SpO2.

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correcaminos

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Any luck with KF94s?


Double masked - KN95 + cloth (because KN95/N95s are ugly) after an hour at Ikea... 100% SpO2.

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Only one I tried on the suggestion of a friend was huge on me still. I literally have a child sized head. My 14yo had a bigger head at 10 than I do.

I'm wary of Amazon as there are so many fake sellers, but truly thank you for asking.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
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Only one I tried on the suggestion of a friend was huge on me still. I literally have a child sized head. My 14yo had a bigger head at 10 than I do.

I'm wary of Amazon as there are so many fake sellers, but truly thank you for asking.
I wanted to add, we bought these locally at Home Depot for my in-laws who came to town, and they found them to be small. Maybe they will work for you

 

correcaminos

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I wanted to add, we bought these locally at Home Depot for my in-laws who came to town, and they found them to be small. Maybe they will work for you

Been there and owned that - straps are constantly falling down and tangling my hair. Used them pre covid for work we were doing in our kitchen when removing wall tiles. Wound up switching to a vented one that still wasn't great but stayed better. I do feel safe enough in my surgical especially when I do the tuck and fold that they suggest.
 

Trauma

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I am quoting you here

This is what I am talking about. Don't like your feelings? Move countries. I am so darn sick of hearing that mentality here in the United States. It's rude. Don't like masks in Disney? Don't go. But telling people to move to Japan because their ideals don't line up with yours? That's rude and uncaring.

I do not recall if you even tested positive or not but glad you weren't very sick. Some are luckier than others. Here i am trying to keep my kid in school as to not fall behind on his HS courses he's taking (he's not in HS yet) so a mandatory week out even with sniffles could hurt. So we vaccinated and boosted AND wear masks when needed. His exposure came from school the day he got boosted. If you are comfortable fine, just stop telling others they are wrong. My kid's schools require at all times outside of eating. If a bunch of middle school kids can handle it, we can certainly handle it in the parks indoors.

FTR my name isn't Helen - never realized that so many do not known Helena and pick a totally different sounding name when I chose that username 25 years ago. Hate Helen tbh as it's like nails on a chalkboard to hear to me with my name. Helena is pronounced like Elena- choice is yours with or without the H. Helena is just the Spanish (de España) version of Elena
Yeah I’ll just drop this you are right.

Suggesting that the entire culture of a country changes because a small portion of the population has a warped risk tolerance - Perfectly acceptable.

Suggesting that person moves to a country that they themselves pointed to as the culture they would prefer to live in - Rude and uncaring.

I didn’t get the memo when you created your username 25 years ago as to the appropriate pronunciation. I will make a note of it.
 

correcaminos

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Yeah I’ll just drop this you are right.

Suggesting that the entire culture of a country changes because a small portion of the population has a warped risk tolerance - Perfectly acceptable.

Suggesting that person moves to a country that they themselves pointed to as the culture they would prefer to live in - Rude and uncaring.

I didn’t get the memo when you created your username 25 years ago as to the appropriate pronunciation. I will make a note of it.
Can you drop the attitude with me please? This is a WDW mask thread. Period. No one was suggesting as you just stated too. Right now cases are high. Masks feels normal for now. In a few months we'll see. But I do think Disney will be wary to drop asap. They didn't in Nov.

No one "had a memo" I just had no clue people would literally take my name Helen A Bear which is weird to me. I was poking at myself while letting you know not to call me Helen.
 
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