Disney is a struggling company. I don’t see an end in sight.

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I think I’ve figured out the problem with Disney… they put Home Improvement on D+ and I think I’ve laughed more during each and every episode of this than the last half dozen Disney, Pixar, and Marvel movies combined.

Disney’s an entertainment company who’s forgotten how to be entertaining.

 

[CinematicFusion]

For what’s it’s worth, I enjoyed the latest Indy film. It’s an action movie that lacks the Spielberg charm and humor. Movie feels more like a 1970s James Bond film. That’s not a bad thing.
Kingdom of Crystal Skull tried to be completely different(much like Temple of Doom… my 2nd favorite) and bring Indy into the 1950s but the film lacked the color, timing, pace of original three and the drive of the main character was missing…. But I respect the ideas in Kingdom.
This movie has the color, timing, pace, feel of original films but again lacks the Spielberg humor.
3/4 for me.

 

[ABQ]

Well after ESPN just laid off Suze Kolber, the last good part of the MNF broadcast, it's going to be hard for anyone to convince me this company has any clue how to right the ship.

 

[Indy_UK]

A lot of commentary about Disney releases, yet, there is one upcoming that is not getting attention.
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This is the one movie this summer I am sticking my flag in. No idea of production costs but I think this one will do ‘decent’

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This is the one movie this summer I am sticking my flag in. No idea of production costs but I think this one will do ‘decent’

I hope the reviews are good because this is the one upcoming movie that may actually get me into a theater.

 

[shambolicdefending]

The Disney brand is starting to show some cracks. The latest Axios Harris Poll has some alarming results. This one stood out to me the most:

63% of Democrats but 46% of Republicans describe the company as family-oriented.

If it's losing the family-oriented label, what is it going to replace it with?

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/disneys-reputation-political-drama-polarization

 

[Indy_UK]

The Disney brand is starting to show some cracks. The latest Axios Harris Poll has some alarming results. This one stood out to me the most:

If it's losing the family-oriented label, what is it going to replace it with?

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/disneys-reputation-political-drama-polarization

The same Disney adults who probably complain about families with Kids being in the park

 

[sedati]

The Disney brand is starting to show some cracks. The latest Axios Harris Poll has some alarming results. This one stood out to me the most:

If it's losing the family-oriented label, what is it going to replace it with?

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/disneys-reputation-political-drama-polarization

But it's losing the "family-oriented" label with those whose definition of "family" is narrow, rigid, and dated. Disney has already given us the perfect label to replace it with: "Modern Family."

 

[Lilofan]

For what’s it’s worth, I enjoyed the latest Indy film. It’s an action movie that lacks the Spielberg charm and humor. Movie feels more like a 1970s James Bond film. That’s not a bad thing.
Kingdom of Crystal Skull tried to be completely different(much like Temple of Doom… my 2nd favorite) and bring Indy into the 1950s but the film lacked the color, timing, pace of original three and the drive of the main character was missing…. But I respect the ideas in Kingdom.
This movie has the color, timing, pace, feel of original films but again lacks the Spielberg humor.
3/4 for me.

How the heck did Crystal Skull gross $700M , tops in all of the Indy Jones franchise.

 

[ABQ]

How the heck did Crystal Skull gross $700M , tops in all of the Indy Jones franchise.

Need to adjust for inflation, though if you can find it, an average ticket price calculation might be better.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top_lifetime_gross_adjusted/?adjust_gross_to=2022
based on simple inflation, Raiders blows Crystal Skull out of the water. Heck, I would imagine DVD sales alone is enough for Raiders to outpace Skull.

 

[shambolicdefending]

But it's losing the "family-oriented" label with those who's definition of "family" is narrow, rigid, and dated. Disney has already given us the perfect table to replace it with: "Modern Family."

Yes, that seems to be Disney's thought process. But it isn't working out on the business side at the moment, apparently.

Maybe they shouldn't be so quick to eschew the "narrow, rigid, and dated" idea of family-oriented entertainment. It's what Walt built the entire company and brand on, leading it to wild multi-generational success. So it might be worth considering that losing it could have negative consequences.

 

[sedati]

Yes, that seems to be Disney's thought process. But it isn't working out on the business side at the moment, apparently.

Maybe they shouldn't be so quick to eschew the "narrow, rigid, and dated" idea of family-oriented entertainment. It's what Walt built the entire company and brand on, leading it to wild multi-generational success. So it might be worth considering that losing it could have negative consequences.

Well, to some Disney has merely "peppered in" such elements, while others see it as "constantly ramming it down our throats!" Disney is a dynamic company and always has been. Age can still relive fond memories of the past, but not at the expense of the youth savoring the challenges and promises of the future.

 

[drizgirl]

Yes, that seems to be Disney's thought process. But it isn't working out on the business side at the moment, apparently.

Maybe they shouldn't be so quick to eschew the "narrow, rigid, and dated" idea of family-oriented entertainment. It's what Walt built the entire company and brand on, leading it to wild multi-generational success. So it might be worth considering that losing it could have negative consequences.

In much the same way Bud Light shouldn't have been so quick to eschew their "frat boy" customers.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

But it's losing the "family-oriented" label with those whose definition of "family" is narrow, rigid, and dated. Disney has already given us the perfect table to replace it with: "Modern Family."

Disney was already known as one of the most inclusive and gay friendly companies on the planet so they weren’t losing anyone with their previous family friendly label.

I could understand the change if they were tapping into a new market by pivotIng to the left but they already had the left before the change, the only thing the pivot is doing is costing them some guests on the right, it makes no sense from a business perspective.

Why would a company that appealed to 100% of the market change so they only appeal to 90%?

 

[CinematicFusion]

How the heck did Crystal Skull gross $700M , tops in all of the Indy Jones franchise.

Pent up demand, everyone wanted a new Indy film.

 

[CinematicFusion]

In much the same way Bud Light shouldn't have been so quick to eschew their "frat boy" customers.

They made a big mistake. Never get rid of your loyal customer.
Restaurants do this, they change the menu hoping to attract new customers but end up losing everyone because your loyal customers lost the food they enjoyed.

 

[shambolicdefending]

Pent up demand, everyone wanted a new Indy film.

Sequel and remake fatigue is a real factor in 2023, as well, IMO. It hasn't helped that the majority of Disney's sequels and "universe" films have been exceptionally mediocre for several years running.

 

[CinematicFusion]

Sequel and remake fatigue is a real factor in 2023, as well, IMO. It hasn't helped that the majority of Disney's sequels and "universe" films have been exceptionally mediocre for several years running.

I think it’s all the above.
New Indy didn’t appeal to a younger crowd. A Chris Pratt WW2 intro might have brought in younger crowd and introduced the 43 year old Pratt as future of Franchise while still honoring Ford as he hangs up the hat.
The movie was just ok, it was fun but didn’t have that Spielberg magic of the 80s.
Disney’s reputation for delivering solid movies has been tarnished and people aren’t flocking to the theater to see what Disney does next.
Everyone waits for Disney +

 

[CinematicFusion]

Disney’s Harsh New Reality: Costly Film Flops, Creative Struggles and a Shrinking Global Box Office

Disney, once the theatrical gold standard, is experiencing a turn in box office fortunes.

variety.com

 

[Mmoore29]

Disney’s Harsh New Reality: Costly Film Flops, Creative Struggles and a Shrinking Global Box Office

Disney, once the theatrical gold standard, is experiencing a turn in box office fortunes.

variety.com

What a crock. Disney's brands are vibrant and thriving. In a lot of ways, the press is putting its thumb on the scale to make movies "fail," or at least move the goalposts to redefine failure when Disney meets the original expectations. And shorts are also in cahoots to artificially drive the stock price down.

This is not 2005 and the end of the Eisner era. Disney is doing well and there is no fundamental failure, other than Genie+/Lightning Lanes. The movies are great, the shows are great, and there isn't Peter Murphy and his strategic planning division, nor is there Alan Horn as studio chair. The light is very green, and everything is very promising indeed.