G00fyDad
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I remember getting table service at moderate resorts but I hear you...
Catching up with this thread after a few days, so I give my apologies if all this was already addressed.EU if done well, and Universal has shown they can do good lands, is going to be a game changer in Orlando. There are a few things that will be tested:
1) Can Universal monsters draw enough people or is it an aged property.
2) How big is How to Train Your Dragon as a draw in a park.
3) Nintendo Land is probably the anchor will it be enough?
4) is the market ready for more potter?
I Wonder what 2026 attendance numbers look like if at least 2 of those questions are positive. Are they expecting 15M? 17M?
What's it to you ? Who cares what other people what to do with their money?If they utterly refuse to spend any of that money to try out two of the top 10 parks In rhe world just down the road.....Yes!
This is what is boils down to for many. And I should say it happens on both sides. There are people who are decidedly much happier with UO parks than Disney too. So you should certainly put your money where your mouth is.Disney gives me the feels, Universal doesn’t. They may both be great theme parks, but only one of them offers Disney, and Disney (more than theme parks per se) is what I’m into.
Ever been to Disneyland? We had family come from Riverside and we took them to WDW. Their experience was not the best.We went to WDW exclusively for years and years. Everyone we knew would call us for help planning trips. We were those people. The last 2 years, we’ve been going to Uni instead, and have had great stays. It’s just easier. Do I miss Disney? Sure. Will we go back? Possibly to California. The Florida park is broken, IMO.
Next years report is going to be veeeeeery interesting. We never got the full impact of GE because covid obviously interrupted that. It would have been interesting to compare HS numbers from 2018 to 2020 in a different world.When I read that portion of the thread, I interpreted much of the comments more broadly than 'me /us personally'. In that context, it might be interesting to look at how the parks rank.
I would not say US and WDW are the same, certainly. Nor do I think any individual has to like Universal or WDW.
More broadly though- the general public might find that Universal now offers an improved product, while WDW might be slipping.
According to T.E.A.C.O.M. report for 2009, MK had 17,233,000 visitors. Disneyland was #2, Tokyo Disneyland was #3...Disney had #1 through #8, and
8 of the top 10 parks worldwide. Universal's top park was Tokyo Universal at #9, Universal Studios Orlando park was #13. (I randomly picked 2009.)
In 2019, Tokyo Universal was #5, Universal Studios Orlando was #11, and Islands of Adventure was #12. Disney had 7 of the top 10 parks worldwide. That was the year GE opened, and it was supposed to boost WDW's numbers, but HS was #9- still WDW's lowest park. Islands went up 6% that year to HS's 2% increase.
Clearly 2020 was an off-year, but Disney only had 5 of the top 10 slots. HS dropped way down.
HS was #7 in 2009, #9 in 2019, and #11 in 2020.
The 2021 report will be closely watched when it is released.
CL FP+ was $50 + tax per person per day. That's almost $1,500 extra for a family of 4 for one week. AFAIK, adoption was incredibly limited as 3 per day at 60 days out was plenty for most.It isn't really a hefty, hefty fee. Or wasn't.
@MickeyLuv'r these are not perks! These are amenities built into the cost of the room. You are comparing amenities of resorts and rooms with independent rates.To clarify a bit, the question asked was ''when did [deluxe] become different treatment as opposed to different accommodations?"
The differences in service ('treatment'] have long been subtle, and not 100% across the board.
There's no way, in a forum like this, to definitively 'prove' that gold Key-to-the-World-Card = being treated a little nicer all over Walt Disney World.
That's why I kept my initial response short. It is what it is.
What are some of the “potential” changes that may come next year based on your infoFWIW, I haven't even heard a whisper about Genie+ changing to include perks based on room type. I don't think it will happen. Any resort perk will be for all resort guests.
They are honestly telling everyone out in the open in their surveys (which I am told they are leaning heavily on here). Right now they are specifically trying to gauge where the lever should be re: price/access. It's going to be a tough go for them because while they will raise the price next year by some degree, I think from a PR standpoint they are limited in how much they can raise it.What are some of the “potential” changes that may come next year based on your info
We have, but not since 2016. We had a blast, and back then it was super easy. My wife still preferred WDW, but the shine came off for me on my first trip to DLR. Not setting foot on a bus the entire time became the main reason I preferred DL and now Uni. That, and Cars Land. RSR is worth the cost in and of itself.Ever been to Disneyland? We had family come from Riverside and we took them to WDW. Their experience was not the best.
Oh one other perk - or at least difference - is when they do free dining the deluxe resorts got the regular plan while moderate and value got the quick service .... That is probably the type of "variance" that is appropriate
We just loved that the rides were nice and close together,. Their versions with the exception of jungle cruise were all clearly better and India Jones of course!We have, but not since 2016. We had a blast, and back then it was super easy. My wife still preferred WDW, but the shine came off for me on my first trip to DLR. Not setting foot on a bus the entire time became the main reason I preferred DL and now Uni. That, and Cars Land. RSR is worth the cost in and of itself.
We have, but not since 2016. We had a blast, and back then it was super easy. My wife still preferred WDW, but the shine came off for me on my first trip to DLR. Not setting foot on a bus the entire time became the main reason I preferred DL and now Uni. That, and Cars Land. RSR is worth the cost in and of itself.
We went during the week in October. Granted, it was almost 6 years ago, but the crowds weren’t bad. We made sure to go during a time there were no big conventions at the Anaheim center. YMMV these days. Haven’t kept up with DL crowds in some time.I need to give DLR another try - we really didn't like our trip too much. It was soooo crowded we could barely walk. And Cast Members were yelling at guests, etc - just way less magical
Showed us that we preferred WDW by a wide margin
Heh?But all you did was describe what people are paying for at deluxe resorts, mostly describing concierge level because I guarantee you that free beer and other beverages do not come along with a deluxe room. Those aren't perks. A perk is what Universal provides when it gives its deluxe resort guests free Express Pass. At most, Disney gives Extended Evening Hours, as noted by @disneyglimpses.
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