Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

[ppete1975]

Your LLs for the day are limited by waiting until your LL scheduled time arrives, or by waiting 2 hours for the next one. And it's also limited that you can't buy more than two IA$s (ILLs) in one day. And it's limited that you can't get more than one LL for any one attraction in a day.

At the beginning of the day, everyone theoretically can start out with 4 LLs (one DG+ picked at 7 AM, one picked at 9 AM, and 2 purchased ILLs).

It used to be that everyone started out with 3 FP+s that they could have picked 30 or 60 days previously. And once people used their 3 FP+s, they can grab another. And when that was used, another.

So... not much different. Except having to pay for it. Which would should make LLs less common than FP+s.

true and something ive thought about, i guess my biggest issue is that they are basically forcing you to buy it, where before it was "free" (included in your ticket). So people that can afford it will, and the people that can barely get in the gate or that really saved up for years for this one trip for their kids are "punished". I just hate how slowly its becoming a class system. I am sure I am not the only person who the first time i came was as a little kid and my parents saved for a long time to give their kids that magical trip. I know im not the only person that feels they are pushing anyone that is middle class out. Upper middle class or bust!!

 

[dav23]

As had been said before, the Maxpass model works at Disneyland because of the huge amount of attractions available. Can someone really justify paying an extra $15/each at Epcot just to ride Soarin, Test Track and Living with the Land ONCE?

 

[dreday3]

true and something ive thought about, i guess my biggest issue is that they are basically forcing you to buy it, where before it was "free" (included in your ticket). So people that can afford it will, and the people that can barely get in the gate or that really saved up for years for this one trip for their kids are "punished". I just hate how slowly its becoming a class system. I am sure I am not the only person who the first time i came was as a little kid and my parents saved for a long time to give their kids that magical trip. I know im not the only person that feels they are pushing anyone that is middle class out. Upper middle class or bust!!

We are middle class and I feel fine about it. It is what it is, it's not going to go backwards.

If it seems for future trips that it's something we will find necessary, then we just save a bit longer.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

if everyone has the 15 dollar lightning lane, does anyone have the 15 dollar lightning lane... this benefits no one.. it only hurts the people that didnt spend ANOTHER 15 dollars per person.

Just pretend they raised park tickets by $15 per day, and then offered you a $15 credit for opting out of FastPass+.

 

[Casper Gutman]

You think the Boo Bash thread was bad? People are going to give themselves a stroke trying to control how people behave with these paid services.

Criticizing a service, the price for a service, or the decision to pay that price is not an attempt to “control” anyone. It’s criticism on a message board.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

i guess my biggest issue is that they are basically forcing you to buy it, where before it was "free" (included in your ticket).

The thing that you can buy and the thing that was "free" are not the same thing.

Genie+ is not FastPass+, because not everyone will have it. I've used the analogy before, but FastPass+ was a free public pool. Genie+ is a paid private pool. The paid private pool is going to be a better experience than the free public pool.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You think the Boo Bash thread was bad? People are going to give themselves a stroke trying to control how people behave with these paid services.

What did I miss? Are people Very Mad Online that Boo Bash exists?

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

What did I miss? Are people Very Mad Online that Boo Bash exists?

I think it's that people were upset that Boo Bash costs more than the Not So Scary Halloween parties and offers less.

Some people didn't understand that Boo Bash is an After Hours event and not the same as a traditional Halloween party.

 

[Casper Gutman]

The thing that you can buy and the thing that was "free" are not the same thing.

Genie+ is not FastPass+, because not everyone will have it. I've used the analogy before, but FastPass+ was a free public pool. Genie+ is a paid private pool. The paid private pool is going to be a better experience than the free public pool.

I have asked this repeatedly, but what makes you think most people won’t have Disney+? What, based on past experience, makes you think Disney won’t make every effort to force people to use the system?

 

[TimeTrip]

I for one welcome a replacement of Genie+ and IAS with GLL and ILL. Will that happen?

 

[Touchdown]

I’m going to wait on this. I really don’t expect purchasing unless the one ride per day limit is increased or the ILL gets rolled into Genie+ price.

 

[Patcheslee]

I’m going to wait on this. I really don’t expect purchasing unless the one ride per day limit is increased or the ILL gets rolled into Genie+ price.

The reride limit is a let down. Honestly if there's still a time slot for the same thing still available within 2 hrs or the time window, how is it going to keep others from enjoying? The only logic I can think of is they don't want people to stay in the same area for long periods of time.

 

[Chicken Guy]

How dare they make Everest the cheapest tier! So insulting

 

[wdwmagic]

How dare they make Everest the cheapest tier! So insulting

A reflection of the show condition?!?

 

[Chicken Guy]

A reflection of the show condition?!?

Perhaps they fear that if they made it any more expensive people might expect them to start fixing things with it.

 

[jpinkc]

SSoooo let me get this straight. ILL Rides, wont have a VQ at all?? They are strictly $$$ only attractions now? So Remy and RoTR will not offer VQ? If they do offer VQ for ILL rides is it going to be the lottery system like we had with RoTR again for all of them? Thats crazy!

 

[GhostHost1000]

How dare they make Everest the cheapest tier! So insulting

How dare they make us pay extra for what we are already paying a ton for

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

A reflection of the show condition?!?

Perhaps this means Indy at DL will be the lowest cost LL as well.

 

[dig311dug]

SSoooo let me get this straight. ILL Rides, wont have a VQ at all?? They are strictly $$$ only attractions now? So Remy and RoTR will not offer VQ? If they do offer VQ for ILL rides is it going to be the lottery system like we had with RoTR again for all of them? Thats crazy!

HAB! (Holy Acronym Batman!)

But seriously... I can't keep up with DW acronyms anymore...

 

[Touchdown]

SSoooo let me get this straight. ILL Rides, wont have a VQ at all?? They are strictly $$$ only attractions now? So Remy and RoTR will not offer VQ? If they do offer VQ for ILL rides is it going to be the lottery system like we had with RoTR again for all of them? Thats crazy!

No there will still be standby or VQ.