disneygeek90
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I'm honestly surprised ROTR isn't 25+ for this weekend. Clearly they have plenty of room to increase the cost when they are selling out in minutes.
The leader would also offer $150/day guests more than 10% ride capacity.I am expecting more due to Disney being the so called leader. I have been to many parks across the US, and for the most part, buying a skip the line pass enables you to ride more and wait less. For some reason Disney thinks it should be ride less and pay more.
G+ people can still ride standby. I think people forget about how bad the DHS tiers were at the end of FP+ The only ride in tier 2 was star tours.
We did Maverick, Steel Vengeance, Valvran, Millennium Force, had early lunch, drove the 4 hours to Kings Island, hit all the Fastlane roller coasters ate dinner, drove 2 more hours home, and still made it home before the parks would have closed. That's what I call a marathon and definitely not comparable to Genie+ lolEvery other park does it with their paid systems. I don't want to hear how Disney should be different cause they aren't.
That's what Genie+ should be like. Instead Disney is trying to hard to balance standby and LL. IMO they are better off making those who paid more happy. The more I think about it the more I tend to think many don't ever buy skip the line at other parks much.We did Maverick, Steel Vengeance, Valvran, Millennium Force, had early lunch, drove the 4 hours to Kings Island, hit all the Fastlane roller coasters ate dinner, drove 2 more hours home, and still made it home before the parks would have closed. That's what I call a marathon and definitely not comparable to Genie+ lol
Wasn't she around when RotR was virtual boarding groups and you were out of luck if you didn't snag one in the first 8 seconds of the 2 magical hours of each day? I had that routine down pretty well.Doing that. Even the concierge couldn't get us on Rise at 7:02. Says she does this every day and has never seen this before.
They don't buy it at other parks cos it costs more. Disney is trying to have their cake and eat it; $15 line skips are understandably resulting in very little availability but they will sell relatively well. An express pass at Universal would easily be around the $200 price point this week; but they won't sell in the same way.That's what Genie+ should be like. Instead Disney is trying to hard to balance standby and LL. IMO they are better off making those who paid more happy. The more I think about it the more I tend to think many don't ever buy skip the line at other parks much.
They way "skip the line" is handled at other parks is handled is why I consider it a "skip the park" system. Six flags completely lost me as a customer. My last trip was on a slow off season day and we got on five rides. Standing by the load platform for forty minutes with less than a dozen people in front of you is robbery.That's what Genie+ should be like. Instead Disney is trying to hard to balance standby and LL. IMO they are better off making those who paid more happy. The more I think about it the more I tend to think many don't ever buy skip the line at other parks much.
I do wonder why they are even offering this when it's pretty useless. It's not a good service. I guess they figure most won't ask for a refund, even though I know there are a lot getting it refunded as they felt they didn't get anything out of it.I am surprised anybody would expect more than they got with FP+ for $15. A hot dog and fries costs $15 at WDW
One would think Disney could make more offering a true express service and charge the $100 or more Universal Does and have better guest satisfaction...I am expecting more due to Disney being the so called leader. I have been to many parks across the US, and for the most part, buying a skip the line pass enables you to ride more and wait less. For some reason Disney thinks it should be ride less and pay more.
That could be where Disney's headed with this. I agree that Genie+ as it stands is not a good product, but there are a lot of people on these boards acting as though $15 a day is outrageous - and it is when compared to the free FP+ service that other theme parks never offered. I don't know how a $100 express service would go over.One would think Disney could make more offering a true express service and charge the $100 or more Universal Does and have better guest satisfaction...
They would have to cut LLs from the “fluff” attractions that don’t need it. The problem is that the business purpose of Genie+ isn’t trying to expedite the line for anyone, it’s trying to spread crowds amongst the underbuilt parks at WDW. Same guise as FP+/MM+ just a different beast and there’s a price tagThat could be where Disney's headed with this. I agree that Genie+ as it stands is not a good product, but there are a lot of people on these boards acting as though $15 a day is outrageous - and it is when compared to the free FP+ service that other theme parks never offered. I don't know how a $100 express service would go over.
Just jumped back in this thread so pardon me if this has already been discussed-
With a busy week like what they are expecting during the holidays- and current crowds- do the “boots on the ground” currently at the parks feel as if Genie+ is the way to go? Or is it turning out that the waits in stand by do not justify the paid fast pass system?
It's totally true. Folks would totally go nuts if Disney went from free FastPass at $0 to an ExpressPass at $100 (like Universal)..That could be where Disney's headed with this. I agree that Genie+ as it stands is not a good product, but there are a lot of people on these boards acting as though $15 a day is outrageous - and it is when compared to the free FP+ service that other theme parks never offered. I don't know how a $100 express service would go over.
This is all true, though one caveat is that exactly 2 hours after park opening, a whole bunch of people will become eligible to book their second LLs, which can deplete the inventory. Therefore, it’s theoretically possible (though I’m not sure whether this would ever happen in practice) that a single LL booked at 10:55 could be more valuable than 2 booked at 11 and 11:05 combined.Honestly just trying to figure out the best "use" of the system. It seems to me the WORST thing you can do with a LL is book something and ride it in just under 2 hours. The goal for both the pre-park opening LL and maybe the first new LL should be to tap in just after the cool down period is over.
Compare the two plans:
Wake up at 7am and book a 10:30 JC LL Wake up at 7am and wait for a 10:30 JC LL Ride JC at 10:30 and book 2nd LL of the day Don't ride JC at 10:30 but at 11 book 2nd LL of the day Use your LL as you would normally using it on the ride you most think is worth it (start at 10:30am) At 11:01 tap into JC and book another LL Use your 2 LL as you normally would using it on the rides you most think are worth it (start a 11 and 11:01am)
So for sacrificing a half hour, you can basically get double the LL for the rest of the day. You can take this to the extreme as shown in the example above.
Personally I would probably plan to ride JC just after 11am and use 1 of the 2 LL for a Peter Pan ride just after 1pm. Once I ride Peter Pan, I now have 3 LL to play with for the next 8ish hours
It's totally true. Folks would totally go nuts if Disney went from free FastPass at $0 to an ExpressPass at $100 (like Universal)..
Now that both Disney and Universal are both charging for access, now it makes me rethink Universal Express Pass.
While the ExpressPass is very expensive, you just buy it and get in the express line of any attraction at any time, no return times to work around, no app, no staring at your phone.
When FastPass was free, you picked them and if you could not make your return time, it was no big deal, now you purchased passes and now you really don't want to miss your return time and tend to wait around for your return time.
Universal Express pass is much more expensive, but the system is easier and allows more freedom.
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