Disney Genie, Genie+ officially introduced along with confirmed details of how it will work

Disstevefan1

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Here's an example of the Experience Redemption you get for Rise if it goes down (image from AllEars) -

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Someone please explain. Rise is a ILL attraction right?

In this example , this screen shot says "Redeem this experience at the Lighting Lane entrance of your chosen location. No substitutions will be allowed"

I do not know what this means?

I WANT to return to Rise later to get the ILL I payed for!
 

Muffinpants

Well-Known Member
Someone please explain. Rise is a ILL attraction right?

In this example , this screen shot says "Redeem this experience at the Lighting Lane entrance of your chosen location. No substitutions will be allowed"

I do not know what this means?

I WANT to return to Rise later to get the ILL I payed for!
Just means they have the day to ride the ride and only the amount of ppl listed can enter.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
Well, unless they up ILL numbers, it already hits capacity. (Also I doubt they would under estimate wait times ... that would definitely lead to a lot of complaints. If people see 130 and wait 60 they're happy. If they see 60 and wait 60 they'll gamble but knew what they were getting into. If they see 60 and wait 130 --- well....)
Folks who know have told us that this is why WDW inflated waits 10 or 15 minutes. But RotR and other headlines are routinely inflated about 250%.

And Disney could get very, very accurate measurements if they wanted… almost every guest is wearing a tracker on their arm!

Maybe at one point the motivation for inflated lines was more crowd manipulation, pushing folks to less popular rides (seems odd to invest billions in complicated systems to do that if inaccurate numbers on a board worked). But now, those inaccurate numbers absolutely drive guests to give WDW more money under false pretenses. The original, or even current, motive may be complex and unknowable. It also doesn’t matter. WDW is lying in a way that encourages guests to give them more money under false pretenses. THAT’S the problem.
 

Jeff4272

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Its not clear to me if there is a limit to the $15 DG+ sales?

Well let’s hope they continue to over estimate the wait times if only to make folks happy, even though we know that’s not the purpose, it’s simply because they are bad at doing the estimates.

As a lot of folks say, the big test will be when the parks are super crowded.

Let’s see what happens, but let’s face it, once you are there you really have no choice but deal with it whether that be pay your way on the rides or wait in the standbys or skip the rides altogether.
There is no limit to Genie+ sales, Disney has come out and said that.....

If they had enough for free FP+, then they will never sell as many as they gave away for free
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
There is no limit to Genie+ sales, Disney has come out and said that.....

If they had enough for free FP+, then they will never sell as many as they gave away for free
I can't tell you if there was a "limit" to the free FP+, all I know is I could rarely get one for the attraction I wanted.
I guess in theory, there will be less LLs "purchased" via DG+, even less ILL purchases.
Therefore, in theory, the standby waits will be less since there will be less LL and ILL slowing down the standby.
Lets see what happens when everyone knows about DG+, ILL and when the parks are crowded.
 

Magic Feather

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A quick question:
If your park reservation is for DAK, but your first selection of the day is made for Slinky at 7 AM (return time after 2 PM), does the 2-hr rule kick in at DAK park open or DHS park open?
 

Chip Chipperson

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A quick question:
If your park reservation is for DAK, but your first selection of the day is made for Slinky at 7 AM (return time after 2 PM), does the 2-hr rule kick in at DAK park open or DHS park open?

I believe it's the opening time of whatever park you have the park reservation for, so DAK in this example.
 

Herah

Active Member
Except if I remember correctly.. if you have an exclusive Genie+ (like Rise of the resistance). And the ride goes down for whatever reason.. You do not get a fastpass for the same ride later on. You get to choose from the lesser ones. To resume, you sorta paid for nothing.
That was a case of mistaken identity. Somebody posted about a Genie+ recovery pass, someone else thought it was ILL and posted a complaint, and several other people ran with it.
 

Muffinpants

Well-Known Member
The screen shot says Rise is down. So you does it mean if you have a ILL for Rise and Rise is down, you can try to return (whenever) that day to try return to use the ILL you paid for?
yes you have the rest of the day to attempt to ride. if the ride 100% never goes back up you can get a refund.. if this has changed lmk. I heard that if it goes back up and your "away" you lost the money.
 

JAB

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yes you have the rest of the day to attempt to ride. if the ride 100% never goes back up you can get a refund.. if this has changed lmk. I heard that if it goes back up and your "away" you lost the money.
Close, but not quite right.

If an ILL ride doesn't go back up by the end of the day, Disney says you should get an automatic refund to your credit card. If it does come back up and you can't make it for whatever reason, you aren't necessarily out the money, but you do have to go to Guest Services yourself to ask for a refund, which current reports say is being issued as a Disney gift card.
 
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RoadiJeff

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Folks who know have told us that this is why WDW inflated waits 10 or 15 minutes. But RotR and other headlines are routinely inflated about 250%.
I wish that had been the case when we went there last month. The posted wait, 15 minutes after the park opened for everyone, was 155 minutes. We ended up waiting 150 minutes.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
yes you have the rest of the day to attempt to ride. if the ride 100% never goes back up you can get a refund.. if this has changed lmk. I heard that if it goes back up and your "away" you lost the money.
I hope you can go ahead and get your refund if it was down in the time slot you purchased and not have to wait it out and hope for the best?

“Oh look dear, remember the 4 ILLs we paid $15 each for Rise that we got up at 7AM to purchase and was so happy that we got a 10AM return time for?”

“Well it says here Rise is down. I guess our plans have changed. We now have to stay at the Studios to wait to see IF it comes back up”.
 

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