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Disney Genie, Genie+ officially introduced along with confirmed details of how it will work

Patcheslee

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So far we've only seen Mon-Thurs & Fri-Sun prices. If they keep it with that split, and people plan to purchase ILLs they can plan whichever parks have the ILL they want for a weekday. I wouldn't pay $14 for FoP on a weekend, but maybe the $11 on a weekday.
 

TimeTrip

Well-Known Member
Last week I saw JC doing that (due to handicap loading causing the LL line to overflow) and temporarily at Rise and Mickey after coming back from being 101 until the LL emptied but the only place I saw that consistently without a reason (recent breakdown, handicap loading) was Frozen. That was not the case anywhere else.
There's a difference between selling at 9:1 versus accepting 9:1 at the ride itself due to unexpected closures. Doesn't explain frozen though.

I can't imagine they would push past the alleged 80:20 for availability in a day though. Well I hope they wouldn't. Raise the price on crowded days instead ;-).
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
There's a difference between selling at 9:1 versus accepting 9:1 at the ride itself due to unexpected closures. Doesn't explain frozen though.

I can't imagine they would push past the alleged 80:20 for availability in a day though. Well I hope they wouldn't. Raise the price on crowded days instead ;-).
I personally hope they do. As someone who plans to use Genie+ when I go I am hoping they up availability. I don't understand the fascination with making standby tolerable. When FP+ was around standby lines crawled so why the change now?
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
I personally hope they do. As someone who plans to use Genie+ when I go I am hoping they up availability. I don't understand the fascination with making standby tolerable. When FP+ was around standby lines crawled so why the change now?
Because Fastpass was free, the optics of charging an increased cost and making it miserable for the poor is a horrible look.

Also, if you make everyone buy Genie+ then the LL just become standby lines, G+ does not increase ride capacity.

Disney is trying to find the sweet spot where they make maximum profit without affecting consumer happiness (with or without G+) to a degree they choose not to come back.
 
I personally hope they do. As someone who plans to use Genie+ when I go I am hoping they up availability. I don't understand the fascination with making standby tolerable. When FP+ was around standby lines crawled so why the change now?
This just comes across to me as really.... mean? I've had express pass before at Universal and never once wished that standby was unbearable. Others have mentioned that Disney has to toe a fine line here; if standby becomes unbearable, word on the street will be that it's not worth going unless you pay extra on top of the already expensive tickets. That's a bad look.
 

TJ Vazquez

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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Question for those that have added Genie + to an existing reservation. I decided to give it a go and try it. When I went to add it to my January trip, it gave me the option, I checked the box and checked out, however it didn't charge me anything. Will they charge me the day of the first use, or did I just get lucky? (which I am seriously doubting).
 

DorysDitty

Member
I wish people would start talking about Genie+ and especially ILL in context of real world family size. If it was just me, solo on a trip, sure…I MIGHT pay $10-$15 not to stand in a long line alone for a ride or two. BUT - multiply that by a family of four and it’s just crazy to me! $40-$60 for a three minute ride that we’ve ridden multiple times in our three years as AP? No thanks. I can’t see us ever purchasing Genie+, so Disney’s out that money for me AND they’ve lost a family that went down 4-6 times a year. I think it will eventually hurt them. Disney needs smiling pictures of my Disneybounding family on FB to encourage others to go on those once in a lifetime trips. When the “Disney people” stop
going and stop spouting advice and tips, it discourages others. That’s just my $0.02.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I wish people would start talking about Genie+ and especially ILL in context of real world family size. If it was just me, solo on a trip, sure…I MIGHT pay $10-$15 not to stand in a long line alone for a ride or two. BUT - multiply that by a family of four and it’s just crazy to me! $40-$60 for a three minute ride that we’ve ridden multiple times in our three years as AP? No thanks. I can’t see us ever purchasing Genie+, so Disney’s out that money for me AND they’ve lost a family that went down 4-6 times a year. I think it will eventually hurt them. Disney needs smiling pictures of my Disneybounding family on FB to encourage others to go on those once in a lifetime trips. When the “Disney people” stop
going and stop spouting advice and tips, it discourages others. That’s just my $0.02.
Sad to hear you won't be going back. Much of the reason for these boards (if not the entire reason) is for people to give advice and tips about Disney.

We preferred FP+, but since that's gone we tried Genie+ and found some value in it, so we'll probably get it for our family trip this April. Until enough people agree with you, it's not going to have much impact on Disney as a company. And if and when it does, they just may decide to call it a day and get out of the parks business altogether. My advice is for people to do what's right for them without worrying about trying to "fix" Disney for the future. It's not likely to happen.
 

dreday3

Well-Known Member
I wish people would start talking about Genie+ and especially ILL in context of real world family size. If it was just me, solo on a trip, sure…I MIGHT pay $10-$15 not to stand in a long line alone for a ride or two. BUT - multiply that by a family of four and it’s just crazy to me! $40-$60 for a three minute ride that we’ve ridden multiple times in our three years as AP? No thanks. I can’t see us ever purchasing Genie+, so Disney’s out that money for me AND they’ve lost a family that went down 4-6 times a year. I think it will eventually hurt them. Disney needs smiling pictures of my Disneybounding family on FB to encourage others to go on those once in a lifetime trips. When the “Disney people” stop
going and stop spouting advice and tips, it discourages others. That’s just my $0.02.

We talked about our experience with Genie + an ILL for our "real-world family size" - the two of us.
Hopefully that helped others that travel like us.
We are Disney-people and Genie + will not deter us from going. First, because we found we liked it, second because we can choose to buy it as we go and not for every day and third we don't have to use it all if we don't want to.

Your smiling family (which I'm sure would be nice to see) would have no bearing on our decision making and vice-versa. :)
 
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runnsally

Well-Known Member
We talked about our experience with Genie + an ILL for our "real-world family size" - the two of us.
Hopefully that helped others that travel like us.
We are Disney-people and Genie + will not deter us from going. First, because we found we liked it, second because we can choose to buy it as we go and not for every day and third we don't have to use it all if we don't want to.

Your smiling family (which I'm sure would be nice to see) would have no bearing on our decision making and vice-versa. :)
There was a show on TLC with that 19 kid family. Would cost them $315 to ride RoR and that’s assuming no additional babysitters.
 

Nigel Yeo

New Member
So, here in the UK we've just been presented with a surprising Disney offer. We've often been offered park tickets at special prices (thanks to more generous vacation allowances, the typical British visit is for two weeks) I've always viewed the offers as an incentive as we have to contend with expensive and heavily taxed flights across the Atlantic. But this week Disney Genie+ access for fourteen days is being offered to UK guests staying on property at £98 (or approximately $9.45/£6.99 per day at current exchange rates and this includes taxes). Are US guests being offered a similar deal? Despite our reluctance to buy in to this whole paid attractions rip-off, it's a compelling price. Just think, that if a significant number of us take up the offer, that's a good number of people chewing-up 14 full days worth of Genie+ capacity, rather than people purchasing on a day by day basis!
 

dreday3

Well-Known Member
So, here in the UK we've just been presented with a surprising Disney offer. We've often been offered park tickets at special prices (thanks to more generous vacation allowances, the typical British visit is for two weeks) I've always viewed the offers as an incentive as we have to contend with expensive and heavily taxed flights across the Atlantic. But this week Disney Genie+ access for fourteen days is being offered to UK guests staying on property at £98 (or approximately $9.45/£6.99 per day at current exchange rates and this includes taxes). Are US guests being offered a similar deal? Despite our reluctance to buy in to this whole paid attractions rip-off, it's a compelling price. Just think, that if a significant number of us take up the offer, that's a good number of people chewing-up 14 full days worth of Genie+ capacity, rather than people purchasing on a day by day basis!

No we aren't.

Jump on it if the price is right! :D
 

Nigel Yeo

New Member
No we aren't.

Jump on it if the price is right! :D
Unfortunately, the price is too good to resist, I always thought that fastpass+ was at least a more egalitarian offering and one that appealed to our more socialist leanings here in Europe. Seeing the reaction of a large percentage of our American cousins raging against free market economics so representative of US culture is interesting.
 

pdude81

Well-Known Member
I assume this will launch in the next week or two at DL. Most signs converted to LL already and they've dropped down to one ride using VQ. Waits this past week were pretty low so it wasn't necessary regardless.
 

aaronml

Well-Known Member
I assume this will launch in the next week or two at DL. Most signs converted to LL already and they've dropped down to one ride using VQ. Waits this past week were pretty low so it wasn't necessary regardless.
Have you seen any photos of this? Last I’d heard/seen, only BTMRR and GRR at DLR had Lightning Lane signage.
 

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