Jeff4272
Well-Known Member
OK, not generally or directionally true eitherIt doesn't need to be NECESSARILY true, it just needs to be generally, directionally true.
OK, not generally or directionally true eitherIt doesn't need to be NECESSARILY true, it just needs to be generally, directionally true.
I am that guy that will wave at those in standby.
Um yeah then we go to the bar while the kids swim in the poolThe latest Epcott has been open recently is 11PM. Even that is only 2 hours past your 9PM discussion point, not 3 or 4. Animal Kingdom has generally been closing at 6, sometimes 8, but never reaches even the 9PM mark you are talking about, so your not getting any additional 3-4 hours there. MK and HS are generally closing anywhere between 8-10. Again no where near the 1AM you would need to get to the additional 3-4 hours "night time" past 9PM.
This is Genie PlusI am the one hiding under your bed
Teeth ground sharp and eyes glowing red
In the Lightning Lane, I am that guy
that will wave at those in standby.
I am the shadow on the moon at night
Filling your dreams to the brim with fright
Yeah… you pretty clearly feel yourself morally superior based on how you vacation, which doesn’t seem healthy at all. You accuse others of being “lazy,” order them to “evolve with the times or get left behind,” that the fact that Disney doesn’t accommodate my style is “on[me],” and tell me to “STFU or go someplace else.” Sort of feels like you think you’ve “won” Disney. Odd.I don't really care about other peoples approaches to the park. Nor do I find one approach to vacationing at WDW morally superior to anything. I am going to hang out with Mickey, not build homes in Appalachia or save the manatees.
I can enjoy the park being a rope drop warrior. You don't want to do that, fine. Don't do it, that's your choice. BUT I will make my choice, and the fact that I might get a perceived benefit (certainly perceived to me, otherwise why am I doing it) that you don't get by being lazy and sleeping in doesn't mean the system is flawed, or wrong or "more demanding" Evolve with the times, or get left behind. WDW today is not what it was when it opened in the 70's. Disney isn't dictating anyone's schedule (other than having a park open and close time). You do that on your own. The fact that your preferred style or rhythm might not work out the best in WDW today is on you. Change your style, deal with the effects of your choice, or STFU and go someplace else.
As to increasing attendance, I never made any mention on that as an effect of rigid or demanding, I said it meant they are catering to their demographic as it shows an increase in that demographic. You say rigid and demanding, I say more efficient and enjoyable. What is or isn't rigid/demanding/fun is a subjective standard. Popularity isn't. Success and popularity over the broad spectrum of potential customers being shown by an ever increasing number of people wanting the product that Disney is selling isn't subjective its an objective measurable fact. Your thoughts on what is "Quality" is a simple opinion, and you probably know the comparisons to opinions and something that everyone has and they all stink. I could care less what your thought of Venom 2, or any other movie. The point of a movie is to get people to see it, and if society says that is the movie everyone wants to go see, that objectively makes it the best film.
We usually do the pool every day...Our typical vacation is 2 days in park, day off, 2 days in park, Water park day, 2 days in park........Our vacation always consists of a pool/resort day in the middle of the week. Spend the day st the pool and have drinks, maybe go to dinner st a mother resort/Disney Springs at night. It will never change.
We also always slept in until about 9ish. Now that will have to change, at least a few times.
Well, you’re lazy wastrel. And you don’t DESERVE to reap the glorious fruits of a Disney World vacation with that work-shy attitude. Did you even type up a detailed, bullet-pointed plan six months in advance? I bet you didn’t. And I bet you were asleep at 5 am every day of your trip. You shame yourself before the Disney judges. Figment turns his back on you.We usually do the pool every day...Our typical vacation is 2 days in park, day off, 2 days in park, Water park day, 2 days in park........
we would sleep in, head to pool when we got up, eat a late lunch in the room and then hit the parks around 3-4pm until closing, having dinner in each park
Which is fun and all. And typically what we are doing at night after park close too. But that is not getting you a "benefit" of 3-4 late nights at the parks vs the morning hours.Um yeah then we go to the bar while the kids swim in the pool
It does...I have a special pass that lets me stay in any bar at any park until 2am if i want.........Which is fun and all. And typically what we are doing at night after park close too. But that is not getting you a "benefit" of 3-4 late nights at the parks vs the morning hours.
Not a contradiction at all. Right/wrong again are simply subjective opinions. I am not saying anyone should change how they vacation. I a saying that if someone else doesn't like how their vacation style is working, AND they refuse to change then they shouldn't expect different results. Nor should they say I should change how I vacation, so that they can enjoy how they want to vacation more. So, if your not going to change how you vacation, then you have to deal with the results of not changing.You really are contradicting yourself. On the one hand, you admit "there is no right/wrong way to vacation" but then on the other say "if you refuse to change how you vacation given the present state of WDW, then don't expect different results. Deal with how your vacationing style is working out for you", implying the other poster is vacationing wrong.
For what it's worth, I've done both but found a more leisurely touring plan was more to my liking on my last trip over the 50th anniversary.
I find chocolate to be a great alternativeI'm starting to understand why AdventHealth picked up the Disney guest health sponsorship. I think the number of emergency anxiety appointments to get a Xanax scrip are going to skyrocket!
Coffee before cell phones.Realistically it isn't a 7am wake up, for a lot of people it is going to need to be before then to get the phone off the charger, get the app in place, talk to the family about what they want to do - so it will be more like a 6:45am.
When I'm at WDW sweating in the 98 degree weather, feet hurting, and then I crash at 10pm, I often think about how some people are able to use their resort pool in the middle of the day and then come back after. Actually taking in the forest for the trees. I've yet to do it, but it always sounds like a nice way to experience the parks.
In the early days of FP+, getting a 4th FP = standing in a line at the kiosk, and the line was often LONG.That would be fine as long as contacting guest relations by email at the end of the vacation would be okay. If it involved standing in line to get a refund for money you paid Disney so you didn’t have to stand in line, that wouldn’t be okay.
I don't think Disney wants anymore people showing up right at opening. I think Disney would rather have 2 groups of arrivals. The group that rope drops, but heads out to get dinner somewhere else. A 2nd group that shows up later, but then stays in park for dinner and closing. The less literal version of "selling the park twice."My guess is that this is part of a push by Disney to get everyone to go to the parks early. 7 AM for this (and boarding groups) as well as the 30 minutes early at every park.
I much preferred when the parks were open until 11-12 at night (and not via an extra ticketed event). But I think Disney is trying to get guests to show up right at park opening and then be happy to leave at 8 or 9 to make operations easier for them, as well as reserving all the later hours for the deluxe resort perks and extra revenue events.
A broken item for free is not as audacious as trying to charge for a similarly broken product.Fastpass was a broken product, so I don't agree that Genie+ is a lesser product at all.
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