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Disney Genie, Genie+ officially introduced along with confirmed details of how it will work

DCLcruiser

Well-Known Member
A VQ shouldn't stick you into a 30 minute standby line. If they're going to do that, what's the purpose of the VQ in the first place?
While I have never used a VQ boarding group, my understanding is that is how it has worked for RotR and now Rat.

The point is to allow you to do other things instead of standing in a longer physical queue. 30 min in the future vs 60 min now.

VQ provides a time in the future for you to get in the queue. However, your boarding group may never be called, or it may be called at an inopportune time for you.

So, ILL allows you to 1) select a preferred time to ride, 2) avoid the VQ queue (VQQ LOL). You show up to the LL entrance and ride.
 

floydbeatle

Active Member
Yes; I'm aware of that. I'm not sure you understood what I was asking.

The only criteria for booking your next G+ LL (as I understand them) are:
  1. When you tap in to a LL or
  2. Two hours after you book a LL (or 2 hours after park open, whichever is later)
So, my question was: can those criteria overlap in such a way that you can stack 3 (or more) LL reservations?

Ex.:
  • 9:00am (park open): Book LL#1 for 11:30am
  • 11:00am(2 hours after booking LL#1): Book LL#2 for 2pm - You now have 2 LLs booked, 11:30am & 2pm
  • 11:30am: Tap in to LL#1 & book LL#3 for 3pm - You have 2 LLs booked, 2pm & 3pm
  • 1pm: (2 hours after booking LL#2): Book LL#4 for 4pm - If allowed, you would now have 3 LLs booked, 2pm, 3pm, & 4pm

Since LL#1 meets "next booking" criteria #1 when you tap in at 11:30, and LL#2 (which was booked at 11am) meets criteria #2 at 1pm, then theoretically, it should be possible to have 3 LLs booked at once, unless Disney has put a restriction on the total number of G+ LL reservations you can have.
This post has caused me PTSD! I feel like I am studying for the SATs all over again. This is too much... :)
 

Dman245

New Member
Yes; I'm aware of that. I'm not sure you understood what I was asking.

The only criteria for booking your next G+ LL (as I understand them) are:
  1. When you tap in to a LL or
  2. Two hours after you book a LL (or 2 hours after park open, whichever is later)
So, my question was: can those criteria overlap in such a way that you can stack 3 (or more) LL reservations?

Ex.:
  • 9:00am (park open): Book LL#1 for 11:30am
  • 11:00am(2 hours after booking LL#1): Book LL#2 for 2pm - You now have 2 LLs booked, 11:30am & 2pm
  • 11:30am: Tap in to LL#1 & book LL#3 for 3pm - You have 2 LLs booked, 2pm & 3pm
  • 1pm: (2 hours after booking LL#2): Book LL#4 for 4pm - If allowed, you would now have 3 LLs booked, 2pm, 3pm, & 4pm

Since LL#1 meets "next booking" criteria #1 when you tap in at 11:30, and LL#2 (which was booked at 11am) meets criteria #2 at 1pm, then theoretically, it should be possible to have 3 LLs booked at once, unless Disney has put a restriction on the total number of G+ LL reservations you can have.
I could be wrong but it seems to me that your two hours would restart when you booked LL#3 so you would be able to book LL#4 beginning at 1:30 pm.
 

mattpeto

Well-Known Member
Yes; I'm aware of that. I'm not sure you understood what I was asking.

The only criteria for booking your next G+ LL (as I understand them) are:
  1. When you tap in to a LL or
  2. Two hours after you book a LL (or 2 hours after park open, whichever is later)
So, my question was: can those criteria overlap in such a way that you can stack 3 (or more) LL reservations?

Ex.:
  • 9:00am (park open): Book LL#1 for 11:30am
  • 11:00am(2 hours after booking LL#1): Book LL#2 for 2pm - You now have 2 LLs booked, 11:30am & 2pm
  • 11:30am: Tap in to LL#1 & book LL#3 for 3pm - You have 2 LLs booked, 2pm & 3pm
  • 1pm: (2 hours after booking LL#2): Book LL#4 for 4pm - If allowed, you would now have 3 LLs booked, 2pm, 3pm, & 4pm

Since LL#1 meets "next booking" criteria #1 when you tap in at 11:30, and LL#2 (which was booked at 11am) meets criteria #2 at 1pm, then theoretically, it should be possible to have 3 LLs booked at once, unless Disney has put a restriction on the total number of G+ LL reservations you can have.

It appears that this is the case, seen on Twitter but it's still confusing.
 

wedenterprises

Well-Known Member
True. You might be able to beat that situation if you get all the must dos done before the last day so that you are not stuck with paying through the eyeballs, but that might not always be feasible.

Chapek is not winning against me. I'll pay for Genie+ but I'll cut something else to make it even.
We make good use of early entry.

I'm the same way, if I pay for G+ then I'm taking home less merch, or perhaps going for 1-2 less days in the park (if G+ works well then I might not need the extra days in the park or hotel).
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
So you're saying... it may work better to just take recommendations as they come based on runtime conditions...

From a system that was built to give people recommendations based on runtime conditions...

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People have this 'first come, first serve' mindset about FP so engrained they are struggling to realize Disney may actually be enabling a 'adhoc' model...

I don't think anyone knew if they were going to release times in blocs throughout the day or just release them all at once. If they were all released at once, you'd need to grab them immediately or else risk missing out entirely.
 

DCLcruiser

Well-Known Member
Yes; I'm aware of that. I'm not sure you understood what I was asking.

The only criteria for booking your next G+ LL (as I understand them) are:
  1. When you tap in to a LL or
  2. Two hours after you book a LL (or 2 hours after park open, whichever is later)
So, my question was: can those criteria overlap in such a way that you can stack 3 (or more) LL reservations?

Ex.:
  • 9:00am (park open): Book LL#1 for 11:30am
  • 11:00am(2 hours after booking LL#1): Book LL#2 for 2pm - You now have 2 LLs booked, 11:30am & 2pm
  • 11:30am: Tap in to LL#1 & book LL#3 for 3pm - You have 2 LLs booked, 2pm & 3pm
  • 1pm: (2 hours after booking LL#2): Book LL#4 for 4pm - If allowed, you would now have 3 LLs booked, 2pm, 3pm, & 4pm

Since LL#1 meets "next booking" criteria #1 when you tap in at 11:30, and LL#2 (which was booked at 11am) meets criteria #2 at 1pm, then theoretically, it should be possible to have 3 LLs booked at once, unless Disney has put a restriction on the total number of G+ LL reservations you can have.
So, the site we cannot name on Twitter is showing they currently have 3 stacked LLs.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
That's a good question!
With a toddler, value to me isn't derived through money. Short waits are key. Like I said, lower than $9 would be nice but it's not the priority.

I wouldn't want my toddler waiting in anything past a posted 30min wait. If it was a must do and the last day of our holiday and the toddler was starting to get tired, I'd pay through my eyeballs to skip that line.

Sorry boys, chapek wins.

How did we manage to do the parks with 4 kids before Chapek? All hail Bob!!! 😉
 

djkidkaz

Well-Known Member
Just pointing out that paying doesn't avoid a wait in this instance, only change is where you wait.

Right but the idea would be to use that 25 minute difference to go ride something. So my option is to wait in a line 30 minutes to ride SDD for example. OR I could buy the LL, go ride Star Tours which has a 10 minute wait and then be back within that 25 minutes to get on Slinky. It all comes down to time management.

We went to Studios yesterday and all the main rides had 50+ minute waits with Slinky and Rise having 80 and 120. If my group of 5 had each been able to shell out $15 each, we would have gotten 2 additional hours back in the park to go do something else besides stand in a line for Rise. We Could spend all day comparing this to the system of old or how it used to be free but this is where we are at and what we have. So now it becomes how do I use this system to best maximize my time?

In the grand scheme of things, think about the amount of “junk” you can spend $15 on at WDW. Getting two hours of your life back is $2 cheaper than a balloon that will be in the trash just days after you arrive home from vacation.
 

mf1972

Well-Known Member
we check in next week. judging by the current wait times today, i’ll consider using the paid version & pay to ride option while at HS. everything else doesn’t look too bad so far.
 

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