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Disney Genie, Genie+ officially introduced along with confirmed details of how it will work

Cre8iveN8ive

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Namaari

Member
So I can already see a (possible) loophole that people might exploit to ride something twice with Genie+ and/or IAS. Example: I have a family member who doesn’t do most rides. I’m also the member in our family who is in charge of booking everything on the MDE app for everyone. I book myself for a Lightning Lane pass at Haunted Mansion at 9am, go on the ride, and won’t be able to book a LL pass for that ride again for the rest of that day. What’s to stop me from booking my family member for Haunted Mansion later in the day and going in her place, claiming that I am her? Or using her 2 IAS passes? (Unless they’re checking IDs at the entrance of the rides, which I don’t really see them doing.) Not saying that I plan on doing this, but was just pondering about how they will regulate.
 

Patcheslee

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So I can already see a (possible) loophole that people might exploit to ride something twice with Genie+ and/or IAS. Example: I have a family member who doesn’t do most rides. I’m also the member in our family who is in charge of booking everything on the MDE app for everyone. I book myself for a Lightning Lane pass at Haunted Mansion at 9am, go on the ride, and won’t be able to book a LL pass for that ride again for the rest of that day. What’s to stop me from booking my family member for Haunted Mansion later in the day and going in her place, claiming that I am her? Or using her 2 IAS passes? (Unless they’re checking IDs at the entrance of the rides, which I don’t really see them doing.) Not saying that I plan on doing this, but was just pondering about how they will regulate.
No different than booking FP+ for a guest that doesn't ride and using their magic band.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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So I can already see a (possible) loophole that people might exploit to ride something twice with Genie+ and/or IAS. Example: I have a family member who doesn’t do most rides. I’m also the member in our family who is in charge of booking everything on the MDE app for everyone. I book myself for a Lightning Lane pass at Haunted Mansion at 9am, go on the ride, and won’t be able to book a LL pass for that ride again for the rest of that day. What’s to stop me from booking my family member for Haunted Mansion later in the day and going in her place, claiming that I am her? Or using her 2 IAS passes? (Unless they’re checking IDs at the entrance of the rides, which I don’t really see them doing.) Not saying that I plan on doing this, but was just pondering about how they will regulate.

No different than the old FP+ system, but a loophole less likely to be used due to the cost.
 

G00fyDad

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So I can already see a (possible) loophole that people might exploit to ride something twice with Genie+ and/or IAS. Example: I have a family member who doesn’t do most rides. I’m also the member in our family who is in charge of booking everything on the MDE app for everyone. I book myself for a Lightning Lane pass at Haunted Mansion at 9am, go on the ride, and won’t be able to book a LL pass for that ride again for the rest of that day. What’s to stop me from booking my family member for Haunted Mansion later in the day and going in her place, claiming that I am her? Or using her 2 IAS passes? (Unless they’re checking IDs at the entrance of the rides, which I don’t really see them doing.) Not saying that I plan on doing this, but was just pondering about how they will regulate.

Just wait until the day you tap in to the ride and something like this shows up on the CM with a tablet. LOL
Goodbye loophole! :(
tory kittles computer GIF by Colony USA





Just kidding. Put down the pitchforks and take off the foil hats. LOL
 

EeyoreFan#24

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So I can already see a (possible) loophole that people might exploit to ride something twice with Genie+ and/or IAS. Example: I have a family member who doesn’t do most rides. I’m also the member in our family who is in charge of booking everything on the MDE app for everyone. I book myself for a Lightning Lane pass at Haunted Mansion at 9am, go on the ride, and won’t be able to book a LL pass for that ride again for the rest of that day. What’s to stop me from booking my family member for Haunted Mansion later in the day and going in her place, claiming that I am her? Or using her 2 IAS passes? (Unless they’re checking IDs at the entrance of the rides, which I don’t really see them doing.) Not saying that I plan on doing this, but was just pondering about how they will regulate.

my guess is they won’t care who the ias belongs to. It’s would just be another person in line. Plus it’s more of a beneficial loophole for Disney than us. Getting revenue from someone who wouldn’t want to ride otherwise. Again, just my guess.
 

Disstevefan1

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Everyone in TWDC that worked on this Genie +/Lighting Lane project must be getting nervous now.
What's going to fail?
How is it's going to fail?
Can we fix it?
Can we roll back?
Can we refund if we roll back?
OR
The whole team may have the attitude, "They are in the park and we already have their money. What are they gonna do?"
 

jpinkc

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Everyone in TWDC that worked on this Genie +/Lighting Lane project must be getting nervous now.
What's going to fail?
How is it's going to fail?
Can we fix it?
Can we roll back?
Can we refund if we roll back?
OR
The whole team may have the attitude, "They are in the park and we already have their money. What are they gonna do?"
The last one is probably the most correct......... maybe they will refund them in 30 days so they can get some interest.
 

FeelsSoGoodToBeBad

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The last one is probably the most correct......... maybe they will refund them in 30 days so they can get some interest.
Meh. I don't think the everyday programmers will have that mindset. They are the ones that will catch hell if/when things go down/fail from lower/middle management. Could be senior mgmt is more lackadaisical about it; that wouldn't be surprising, sadly.
 

Trauma

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Well the time is almost here!

I don’t know how to start a poll so I’ll just ask here.

Who is hoping that this is going to backfire and fail miserably for Disney?

Personally I don’t think the Genie+ side of it will fail.

That being said I’m am actively rooting for the $ILL$ idea to completely backfire.
I understand some people here might like the idea and I respect your opinion, but I’m looking forward to a GIANT poop storm.
 

mikejs78

Premium Member
Well the time is almost here!

I don’t know how to start a poll so I’ll just ask here.

Who is hoping that this is going to backfire and fail miserably for Disney?

Personally I don’t think the Genie+ side of it will fail.

That being said I’m am actively rooting for the $ILL$ idea to completely backfire.
I understand some people here might like the idea and I respect your opinion, but I’m looking forward to a GIANT poop storm.
I kind of honestly don't mind Genie+. There are some things I wish were better about it, but I actually think that a paid option will be better for the parks in general than a free option, but we will see.

ILL$$$ is another matter. I'm with you, I hope it spectacularly fails, and I actually think there's a pretty good chance it does.
 

aaronml

Well-Known Member
Just wait until the day you tap in to the ride and something like this shows up on the CM with a tablet. LOL
Goodbye loophole! :(
tory kittles computer GIF by Colony USA





Just kidding. Put down the pitchforks and take off the foil hats. LOL
I recall hearing that at SHDL they do show your photo to the CM when redeeming a FP / DPA pass.
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
Well the time is almost here!

I don’t know how to start a poll so I’ll just ask here.

Who is hoping that this is going to backfire and fail miserably for Disney?

Personally I don’t think the Genie+ side of it will fail.

That being said I’m am actively rooting for the $ILL$ idea to completely backfire.
I understand some people here might like the idea and I respect your opinion, but I’m looking forward to a GIANT poop storm.

Can it really fail though? No matter how many, or how few, people pay it's a system that used to be free, generating revenue. It's likely a win for Disney no matter what.

The only risk is that it will negatively impact attendance, but for all the griping Disney fans do this never seems to happen.

Giving it away for free on the first day to D23 Gold members doesn't seem like a great sign.

It's a way to test it. No more, no less. This is not any sort of sign the system will or won't be a success.
 

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