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Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

_caleb

_caleb

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I think Disney should flip to the Fortnite model: park admission and movies are free, but Disney charges a premium for D-bucks can be used to buy cosmetic items (like digital avatars, custom minivan stick-figure family stickers, mouse ears, popcorn buckets, trading pins) and other things that aren't real, like fan club status, achievement badges, in-world titles, or DVC points.

Because there is no limit to what people will pay for Disney parks.
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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Purduevian said:
Honestly though, not too bad for your 4th LL. I thought it would be far worse on a sold out day.
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Wonder if they lower th cap a bit (or it has been lower)

Not saying I would want to pay $35 for it but paying that and being able to get 5 or 6 decent uses is better than $30 and getting 2 good rides
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I love the “celebration” of genie selling…

…forgetting that the park ride/attraction capacity still sits at 2005 level flow comfort…

So you get people trying to “buy their way out of it” and then griping and talking how awful it is on the way home.

Everyone here knows - I would venture - someone who has described that scenario…it’s becoming Standard

And it’s terrible for business
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They got taken, everyone hates to feel taken, they tell their friends how it feels
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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Looks like same price point for G+ today as yesterday, so no increase even with MK/hopper selling out yesterday

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Purduevian

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TheMaxRebo said:
Wonder if they lower th cap a bit (or it has been lower)

Not saying I would want to pay $35 for it but paying that and being able to get 5 or 6 decent uses is better than $30 and getting 2 good rides
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I was kind of wondering if they were always going to "sell out" Monday and Tuesday of this week (we will see if it sells out today) and use it as an excuse to bump the price even higher starting Thursday due to "unprecedented demand".

My wife and I were talking trying to figure out what our price limit would be for G+ for MK. As much as I hate to say it, we haven't hit it yet.
 
wendysue

wendysue

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
…oh get ready for REAL stupidity to start

It’s coming…soon
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I don't understand people anymore. It seems that no matter what Dis does, it's just wonderful. I know...I probably shouldn't be on this site any longer, but I check in just to get a few laughs at the lengths people will go to say what a fun time they had paying a ridiculous amount just to walk into a park and then another ridiculous amount to ride a ride. Since I canceled the last two trips, I paid off my car loan, am now debt free and have no plans to give Disney another dime. We had an enormous amount of fun at WDW on past trips but that's over.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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wendysue said:
I don't understand people anymore. It seems that no matter what Dis does, it's just wonderful. I know...I probably shouldn't be on this site any longer, but I check in just to get a few laughs at the lengths people will go to say what a fun time they had paying a ridiculous amount just to walk into a park and then another ridiculous amount to ride a ride. Since I canceled the last two trips, I paid off my car loan, am now debt free and have no plans to give Disney another dime. We had an enormous amount of fun at WDW on past trips but that's over.
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One of the strangest things in 25+ of these boards is how people have convinced themselves that being doubled charged to go on rides…and doubled charged for a day in the park…is GOOD for them.

It’s like out of a Distopian novel
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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wendysue said:
but I check in just to get a few laughs at the lengths people will go to say what a fun time they had paying a ridiculous amount just to walk into a park and then another ridiculous amount to ride a ride.
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I don’t understand this attitude. Some people no longer enjoy the experience; others continue to love it. No-one is wrong or deserving of scorn for feeling as they do.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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LittleBuford said:
I don’t understand this attitude. Some people no longer enjoy the experience; others continue to love it. No-one is wrong or deserving of scorn for feeling as they do.
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I’ll tell you for the 4,000,000 time…and you won’t care.

1. The most vocal critics are diehard fans who see the direction being taken is a path to longterm disaster. Nobody wants that.
2. The model is they cannot push away masses of people by choice for “Philosophy”. The numbers don’t Work without large numbers of people in the parks spending money. Period. Any suggestion they can sustain it otherwise is fallacy.
3. This is a consumer - supplier relationship. The consumer has the ability to affect change and protect themselves by voting against bad policy. That hasn’t been happening…enough…yet.
4. The management does NOT care about the quality of parks after they leave. Don’t trust them. It’s not in their interests to protect them.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I’ll tell you for the 4,000,000 time…and you won’t care.

1. The most vocal critics are diehard fans who see the direction being taken is a path to longterm disaster. Nobody wants that.
2. The model is they cannot push away masses of people by choice for “Philosophy”. The numbers don’t Work without large numbers of people in the parks spending money. Period. Any suggestion they can sustain it otherwise is fallacy.
3. This is a consumer - supplier relationship. The consumer has the ability to affect change and protect themselves by voting against bad policy. That hasn’t been happening…enough…yet.
4. The management does NOT care about the quality of parks after they leave. Don’t trust them. It’s not in their interests to protect them.
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None of this has anything to do with my point.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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LittleBuford said:
I don’t understand this attitude. Some people no longer enjoy the experience; others continue to love it. No-one is wrong or deserving of scorn for feeling as they do.
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Let me try to explain.

When WDW first opened the gate price was very low but there was ticket books for attractions. It was tolerated because the park was new and the gate prices were low.

Then WDW dropped the ticket books and raised the gate price, but the attractions were free so that was tolerated.

Then WDW went to paper Fastpasses. Attractions still FREE. This was my favorite. Only the most popular attractions had paper fastpasses, and the rest were standby. I felt there was a good mix and my favorite part was to go to the end of a the standby queue of a fastpass line and make magic for a total stranger and give them your paper fastpass, you could create some magic for free.

Then WDW want to Fastpass+ This was paperless. Attractions still free, you could even schedule your fastpass 60 days in advance, many folks loved and mastered this system and if done right, you could eliminate the "zig zag" through the parks. Even if you couldn't do the zig zag and you were going to miss your Fastpass time, NO PROBLEM, IT WAS FREE, NO LOSS. I did miss handing my paper Fast pass to someone to make magic, but thats OK it was FREE.

That brings us to the present. Genie+ and ILL, NOT FREE. For all these years we had a FREE fastpass systems and folks LOVED it. Now that valuable service that was FREE, now cost you big time. Not only something that folks liked that was FREE was TAKEN AWAY, but NOW you must pay for a system that does not work as well. There is also the feeling that YOU MUST use the system since you paid for it and there is a loss of freedom there in my opinion. With the old free systems if the day did not work out, you didn't get on attractions you wanted to etc., it was OK there was no cost. Now you must invest money, and if things don't work out, you paid money AND you didn't get to do what you wanted to do, its really a let down and you feel you were taken. There is also the idea that you are a slave to Genie+ and ILL since you paid and, "lets just wait around till our time comes up" I paid for these LLs so I want to use them, then the ride breaks down. Remember all the while, the gate price just keeps going up.

I hope this helps you understand.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
Disstevefan1 said:
Let me try to explain.

When WDW first opened the gate price was very low but there was ticket books for attractions. It was tolerated because the park was new and the gate prices were low.

Then WDW dropped the ticket books and raised the gate price, but the attractions were free so that was tolerated.

Then WDW went to paper Fastpasses. Attractions still FREE. This was my favorite. Only the most popular attractions had paper fastpasses, and the rest were standby. I felt there was a good mix and my favorite part was to go to the end of a the standby queue of a fastpass line and make magic for a total stranger and give them your paper fastpass, you could create some magic for free.

Then WDW want to Fastpass+ This was paperless. Attractions still free, you could even schedule your fastpass 60 days in advance, many folks loved and mastered this system and if done right, you could eliminate the "zig zag" through the parks. Even if you couldn't do the zig zag and you were going to miss your Fastpass time, NO PROBLEM, IT WAS FREE, NO LOSS. I did miss handing my paper Fast pass to someone to make magic, but thats OK it was FREE.

That brings us to the present. Genie+ and ILL, NOT FREE. For all these years we had a FREE fastpass systems and folks LOVED it. Now that valuable service that was FREE, now cost you big time. Not only something that folks liked that was FREE was TAKEN AWAY, but NOW you must pay for a system that does not work as well. There is also the feeling that YOU MUST use the system since you paid for it and there is a loss of freedom there in my opinion. With the old free systems if the day did not work out, you didn't get on attractions you wanted to etc., it was OK there was no cost. Now you must invest money, and if things don't work out, you paid money AND you didn't get to do what you wanted to do, its really a let down and you feel you were taken. There is also the idea that you are a slave to Genie+ and ILL since you paid and, "lets just wait around till our time comes up" I paid for these LLs so I want to use them, then the ride breaks down. Remember all the while, the gate price just keeps going up.

I hope this helps you understand.
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Again, nothing at all to do with my point.
 

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