News 'Disney Enchantment' coming to Magic Kingdom October 1 2021

KBLovedDisney

Well-Known Member
Well... if they keep making things worse and worse than... YEAH!
Wishes = a

HEA = b

b = a-b

Enchantment = (in what I have heard) c

So, in conclusion...
Calculating Figure It Out GIF


a - b = c


We are accepting less and less good quality for minimal entertainment.

(Don't question my math you geniuses out there! I don't know what I am doing! I mean...I do know that you know...I mean. You left train monorail A going 25 mph....oh floof)
 

wtyy21

Active Member
Disney Parks now reuploaded the previous video about the Disney Enchantment first performance that they streamed yesterday alongside WDW rededication ceremony, where i believe the video was removed due to technical reasons.
 

GhostHost1000

Well-Known Member
Wishes = a

HEA = b

b = a-b

Enchantment = (in what I have heard) c

So, in conclusion...
Calculating Figure It Out GIF


a - b = c


We are accepting less and less good quality for minimal entertainment.

(Don't question my math you geniuses out there! I don't know what I am doing! I mean...I do know that you know...I mean. You left train monorail A going 25 mph....oh floof)
Pay more.
Get less.

the new Di$ney
 

Squishy

Well-Known Member
I found the video of "Disney Enchantment" from Main Street perspective, with projection of main street only happened 6 minutes after the show began.


Despite the storyline is much disappointed due to fact that the show were not focused on WDW past and present, i think the Main Street projection were massive upgrade to the previous firework show, where MSUSA projection previously only seen at Disneyland. The original song and narator voice feels more remarkable.

They must've rushed this show so badly that they only had time to give 2/3rds of the show Main Street projections.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

Well-Known Member
I'd be curious to go to the thread, but I remember a lot of people complaining about HEA and how it was inferior to Wishes when it premiered (most seemed to center on "it's just a clip show" and "not enough fireworks" or such). Certainly HEA got a lot more love over time and I think part of it was just people getting used to the format.

I do wonder about how the masses with react to Enchantment over time. I've got imagine that seeing it in person would be important given the Main St projections aspect.
I posted my initial response to HEA here, but it was very, very positive.

(Link to the HEA thread post-premiere, if anyone wants to browse more reactions)

On that note, I also remember the general response on this site being a lot more positive than for DE. Yes, you had people saying “I miss Wishes!” and some “not enough fireworks” claims, but those were easily outweighed.

This show’s not nearly as frustrating as Harmonious, but it takes the HEA template, does a few things better, and does plenty worse. It also completely omits the milestone it should be paying homage to - you could export it to Hong Kong or Shanghai tomorrow and it would fit just as well.

For WDW’s biggest birthday yet, that’s a little underwhelming.
 

DisneyExpert

Well-Known Member
How can you have a 50th anniversary show without ONE CALLBACK to Walt OR Mickey?!

Disneyland's 75th had some story about the PARK!

And it seems to me they kept the same R&B music from HEA and just redid the lyrics.
I get promoting the new stuff over the old (even if the new stuff is musically not as popular as the... y'know... the stuff we all remember) coz ya gotta have synergy - I read that in a textbook when I got my MBA!
But geez... give the piano solo from Soul a longer riff - Pick the tunes from Moanna that were actually memorable (and boy howdy are they pushing Coco something fierce).

You didn't see Disney in the 80s doing fireworks shows with music from The Great Mouse Detective, Black Cauldron, Oliver and Company or even Tron.

It did do one thing... It made me appreciate HEA.
(Fireworks are, as usual, excellent but I don't think they were as creative with the projections as they could've been)

Disneyland does not appreciate you aging her by 9 years! 😂

Bob? Is that you? :oops:
 
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Rose&Crown

Well-Known Member
I can see how this show will be popular for those who haven’t been to MK in a long time and are going for the 50. For those who go often I can see how this is a downgrade from HEA.
 

Skywise

Well-Known Member
I posted my initial response to HEA here, but it was very, very positive.

(Link to the HEA thread post-premiere, if anyone wants to browse more reactions)

On that note, I also remember the general response on this site being a lot more positive than for DE. Yes, you had people saying “I miss Wishes!” and some “not enough fireworks” claims, but those were easily outweighed.

This show’s not nearly as frustrating as Harmonious, but it takes the HEA template, does a few things better, and does plenty worse. It also completely omits the milestone it should be paying homage to - you could export it to Hong Kong or Shanghai tomorrow and it would fit just as well.

For WDW’s biggest birthday yet, that’s a little underwhelming.
I was one who was negative on HEA. I'm still not a fan of it either but, thematically, musically, it ironically works better than Enchantment.
 

wtyy21

Active Member
I posted my initial response to HEA here, but it was very, very positive.

(Link to the HEA thread post-premiere, if anyone wants to browse more reactions)

On that note, I also remember the general response on this site being a lot more positive than for DE. Yes, you had people saying “I miss Wishes!” and some “not enough fireworks” claims, but those were easily outweighed.

This show’s not nearly as frustrating as Harmonious, but it takes the HEA template, does a few things better, and does plenty worse. It also completely omits the milestone it should be paying homage to - you could export it to Hong Kong or Shanghai tomorrow and it would fit just as well.

For WDW’s biggest birthday yet, that’s a little underwhelming.
Disneyland Paris is in preparation of their 30th anniversary next year, and i would like to export this show into DLP (only for You Are the Magic opening and reprise song) and making their nighttime spectacular that celebrate the park themselves, like RDCT borrow scores from Wishes but showcasing attraction scene instead movies.
 

jklakeview

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I think this is the most egregious problem with the new show, this is just plain laziness. I immediately went back and watched a close up video of HEA to make sure I remember properly. HEA definitely made more creative use of projections, throughout a lot of the new show they were just using the castle as big screen.
I think this might have been the point. HEA had the problem that you had to be right in front of the castle to see all of the intricate little parts. It created something that was not functional as Disney became more and more crowded. I think they didn’t want to lose the element of mapping on the castle but wanted it to be extra and not the key component of the show.
 

MisterPenguin

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Premium Member
Not only did some people complain that HEA was shorter and had less pyro (which it didn't), they also complained it didn't have a story. So, I created a breakdown to show that it did....


Then they said, "Well, Wishes had a story, too!"

And I had to show, that, not really...


 

disneyglimpses

Well-Known Member
Do yourself a favor and watch HEA and DE side by side. Notice how detailed every single scene is in Happily Ever After. The projections are meticulously designed.

In Enchantment, it's more or less the generic castle overlay with a hue that matches each film and a cutout either in the bottom or top right to show a clip of the scene's film.

There is much more going on than just Disney fans being Disney fans and complaining. The show was rushed.
 

disneyglimpses

Well-Known Member
They couldn't even be bothered to theme the castle to Arendelle! They simply took the generic design, made it blue and then put elsa in a tiny spot in the top right.

I understand pandemic, financial, hiring constraints. But then why bother with this at all?

Same goes for the reprise section of the show. They simply took scenes of films and then put a swirly animation around them on a dark castle. Compare the reprise sections of HEA vs DE. Look how detailed the HEA projections are and how generic the DE projections are. This is the case for the entire 20 minutes of both shows.

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danlb_2000

Premium Member
I think this might have been the point. HEA had the problem that you had to be right in front of the castle to see all of the intricate little parts. It created something that was not functional as Disney became more and more crowded. I think they didn’t want to lose the element of mapping on the castle but wanted it to be extra and not the key component of the show.

I don't think that a good reason not to do it. Sure the animations were not as effective if you were further back, but they didn't hurt anything and were a nice added bonus for those who were closer.
 

disneyglimpses

Well-Known Member
I don't think that a good reason not to do it. Sure the animations were not as effective if you were further back, but they didn't hurt anything and were a nice added bonus for those who were closer.
This is exactly why I truly believe Happily Ever After will be transitioned to the fireworks show for the generic ticketed After Hours events that will occur in between holidays.
 

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