News 'Disney Enchantment' coming to Magic Kingdom October 1 2021

[Skywise]

This is the same response HEA got when it replaced Wishes. In 8 years people will be saying how awful the new show is compared to Enchantment.

Well... if they keep making things worse and worse than... YEAH!

 

[Skywise]

Remember… Dreams Come True!

Ah - never saw that one. I'll have to look it up on YouTube.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Ah - never saw that one. I'll have to look it up on YouTube.

Enjoy it mixes Wishes with a grand circle tour of the magic kingdom. Narrated by Julie Andrews herself.

 

[KBLovedDisney]

Well... if they keep making things worse and worse than... YEAH!

Wishes = a

HEA = b

b = a-b

Enchantment = (in what I have heard) c

So, in conclusion...

a - b = c


We are accepting less and less good quality for minimal entertainment.

(Don't question my math you geniuses out there! I don't know what I am doing! I mean...I do know that you know...I mean. You left train monorail A going 25 mph....oh floof)

 

[wtyy21]

Disney Parks now reuploaded the previous video about the Disney Enchantment first performance that they streamed yesterday alongside WDW rededication ceremony, where i believe the video was removed due to technical reasons.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Wishes = a

HEA = b

b = a-b

Enchantment = (in what I have heard) c

So, in conclusion...

a - b = c


We are accepting less and less good quality for minimal entertainment.

(Don't question my math you geniuses out there! I don't know what I am doing! I mean...I do know that you know...I mean. You left train monorail A going 25 mph....oh floof)

Pay more.
Get less.

the new Di$ney

 

[Squishy]

I found the video of "Disney Enchantment" from Main Street perspective, with projection of main street only happened 6 minutes after the show began.


Despite the storyline is much disappointed due to fact that the show were not focused on WDW past and present, i think the Main Street projection were massive upgrade to the previous firework show, where MSUSA projection previously only seen at Disneyland. The original song and narator voice feels more remarkable.

They must've rushed this show so badly that they only had time to give 2/3rds of the show Main Street projections.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

I'd be curious to go to the thread, but I remember a lot of people complaining about HEA and how it was inferior to Wishes when it premiered (most seemed to center on "it's just a clip show" and "not enough fireworks" or such). Certainly HEA got a lot more love over time and I think part of it was just people getting used to the format.

I do wonder about how the masses with react to Enchantment over time. I've got imagine that seeing it in person would be important given the Main St projections aspect.

I posted my initial response to HEA here, but it was very, very positive.

(Link to the HEA thread post-premiere, if anyone wants to browse more reactions)

On that note, I also remember the general response on this site being a lot more positive than for DE. Yes, you had people saying “I miss Wishes!” and some “not enough fireworks” claims, but those were easily outweighed.

This show’s not nearly as frustrating as Harmonious, but it takes the HEA template, does a few things better, and does plenty worse. It also completely omits the milestone it should be paying homage to - you could export it to Hong Kong or Shanghai tomorrow and it would fit just as well.

For WDW’s biggest birthday yet, that’s a little underwhelming.

 

[DisneyExpert]

How can you have a 50th anniversary show without ONE CALLBACK to Walt OR Mickey?!

Disneyland's 75th had some story about the PARK!

And it seems to me they kept the same R&B music from HEA and just redid the lyrics.
I get promoting the new stuff over the old (even if the new stuff is musically not as popular as the... y'know... the stuff we all remember) coz ya gotta have synergy - I read that in a textbook when I got my MBA!
But geez... give the piano solo from Soul a longer riff - Pick the tunes from Moanna that were actually memorable (and boy howdy are they pushing Coco something fierce).

You didn't see Disney in the 80s doing fireworks shows with music from The Great Mouse Detective, Black Cauldron, Oliver and Company or even Tron.

It did do one thing... It made me appreciate HEA.
(Fireworks are, as usual, excellent but I don't think they were as creative with the projections as they could've been)

Disneyland does not appreciate you aging her by 9 years!

Bob? Is that you?

 

[Rose&Crown]

I can see how this show will be popular for those who haven’t been to MK in a long time and are going for the 50. For those who go often I can see how this is a downgrade from HEA.

 

[Skywise]

I posted my initial response to HEA here, but it was very, very positive.

(Link to the HEA thread post-premiere, if anyone wants to browse more reactions)

On that note, I also remember the general response on this site being a lot more positive than for DE. Yes, you had people saying “I miss Wishes!” and some “not enough fireworks” claims, but those were easily outweighed.

This show’s not nearly as frustrating as Harmonious, but it takes the HEA template, does a few things better, and does plenty worse. It also completely omits the milestone it should be paying homage to - you could export it to Hong Kong or Shanghai tomorrow and it would fit just as well.

For WDW’s biggest birthday yet, that’s a little underwhelming.

I was one who was negative on HEA. I'm still not a fan of it either but, thematically, musically, it ironically works better than Enchantment.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

What Wishes had than HEA and Enchantment don't have.....Holiday Shows..

 

[wtyy21]

I posted my initial response to HEA here, but it was very, very positive.

(Link to the HEA thread post-premiere, if anyone wants to browse more reactions)

On that note, I also remember the general response on this site being a lot more positive than for DE. Yes, you had people saying “I miss Wishes!” and some “not enough fireworks” claims, but those were easily outweighed.

This show’s not nearly as frustrating as Harmonious, but it takes the HEA template, does a few things better, and does plenty worse. It also completely omits the milestone it should be paying homage to - you could export it to Hong Kong or Shanghai tomorrow and it would fit just as well.

For WDW’s biggest birthday yet, that’s a little underwhelming.

Disneyland Paris is in preparation of their 30th anniversary next year, and i would like to export this show into DLP (only for You Are the Magic opening and reprise song) and making their nighttime spectacular that celebrate the park themselves, like RDCT borrow scores from Wishes but showcasing attraction scene instead movies.

 

[DKampy]

I can't believe people love Angela Basset so much. I have only really watched her in 9-1-1 and her acting is just so bad in it

That’s like saying why do people love George Clooney…I have only seen him in Rosanne

 

[jklakeview]

Yeah, I think this is the most egregious problem with the new show, this is just plain laziness. I immediately went back and watched a close up video of HEA to make sure I remember properly. HEA definitely made more creative use of projections, throughout a lot of the new show they were just using the castle as big screen.

I think this might have been the point. HEA had the problem that you had to be right in front of the castle to see all of the intricate little parts. It created something that was not functional as Disney became more and more crowded. I think they didn’t want to lose the element of mapping on the castle but wanted it to be extra and not the key component of the show.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Not only did some people complain that HEA was shorter and had less pyro (which it didn't), they also complained it didn't have a story. So, I created a breakdown to show that it did....

Deconstructing "Happily Ever After"

see second post for a list of videos of HEA Introduction: Desiring the Dream 10 seconds: Instrumental “Happily Ever After” Castle: Blue and orange. Large keyhole (for unlocking doors to one's dreams) FX: Spotlights and strobes FX: Hub's fountain turns color appropriately FX: Made with Magic...

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Then they said, "Well, Wishes had a story, too!"

And I had to show, that, not really...

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I agree with all of this. I have noticed many guests confused that the show is over. Disney are masters of the grand finale. Taking the level higher higher, holding it, and then when you thought it couldn’t get any better they introduce the icing on the cake. The show stopper. It’s something...

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(RUMOR) Rivers Of Light to end in 2020 replaced with new show featuring Disney characters

Jiminy Cricket wants to take us through different Disney wishes and dreams. He gets in over his head when encountering the Evil Queen and the Blue Fairy bails him out. A Main Character, a narrative, a Conflict and Resolution. Wow. That's a very creative interpretation of the script. Right...

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[disneyglimpses]

Do yourself a favor and watch HEA and DE side by side. Notice how detailed every single scene is in Happily Ever After. The projections are meticulously designed.

In Enchantment, it's more or less the generic castle overlay with a hue that matches each film and a cutout either in the bottom or top right to show a clip of the scene's film.

There is much more going on than just Disney fans being Disney fans and complaining. The show was rushed.

 

[disneyglimpses]

They couldn't even be bothered to theme the castle to Arendelle! They simply took the generic design, made it blue and then put elsa in a tiny spot in the top right.

I understand pandemic, financial, hiring constraints. But then why bother with this at all?

Same goes for the reprise section of the show. They simply took scenes of films and then put a swirly animation around them on a dark castle. Compare the reprise sections of HEA vs DE. Look how detailed the HEA projections are and how generic the DE projections are. This is the case for the entire 20 minutes of both shows.

Happily Ever After

Enchantment

 

[danlb_2000]

I think this might have been the point. HEA had the problem that you had to be right in front of the castle to see all of the intricate little parts. It created something that was not functional as Disney became more and more crowded. I think they didn’t want to lose the element of mapping on the castle but wanted it to be extra and not the key component of the show.

I don't think that a good reason not to do it. Sure the animations were not as effective if you were further back, but they didn't hurt anything and were a nice added bonus for those who were closer.

 

[disneyglimpses]

I don't think that a good reason not to do it. Sure the animations were not as effective if you were further back, but they didn't hurt anything and were a nice added bonus for those who were closer.

This is exactly why I truly believe Happily Ever After will be transitioned to the fireworks show for the generic ticketed After Hours events that will occur in between holidays.