In my semi-perfect dhs master plan, the Animation Courtyard would be totally leveled and Florida be given a proper and even better ToonTown with MMRR being relocated and GMR returning with trackless tech. That way you could also redo that terrible toon carnival section of MK and replace it with something much better
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News Disney Confirms Muppets Take Over Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Hollywood Studios
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Casper Gutman
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The "story" in Rewind is a garbled mess that directly contradicts itself in under 10 minutes. The only way it is acceptable is if you DON'T pay attention.
Brer Panther
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Then why aren't they doing that first before getting rid of the Muppets? You can't tell me Launch Bay is more popular.
Won't having whatever musicians are popular right now in the attraction result in it becoming dated like Rock 'n' Roller Coaster did?
Great metaphor.
Me too. If we knew for sure that they were moving MuppetVision to the Lightning McQueen/Villains theater, it would soften the blow. But that's just speculation.
I like the Muppets, I don't like roller coasters that go upside down. So I won't want to go on the only Muppets attraction in the park. Huzzah.
And when people try to do puppetry for older audiences, the result is crap like The Happytime Murders. Where the entire joke is just "LOOK AT THIS! IT'S LIKE THE MUPPETS/SESAME STREET, BUT IT'S EDGY! WE'RE SO CLEVER, AREN'T WE?!".
Apparently, that's because it sucked, not just because it had the Muppets. Same reason why Muppets Most Wanted underperformed.BTW, this show also flopped.
Lady Gaga and the Muppets Fail to Bring in Ratings With Thanksgiving Special on ABC - E! Online
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If Disney really cared about shuttered attractions, they would've put something in the Stitch building years ago.
Disney doesn't reuse props or animatronics as much nowadays, do they? None of the Splash Mountain animatronics were reused for Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
We already have an attraction with Chris Diamantopolous' lousy Mickey Mouse. You'll survive.
How much would that suck? A Muppets attraction with (almost) no Fozzie, no Gonzo, no Scooter... it'd be like doing a Princess and the Frog ride where the only characters from the movie who don't just have brief cameos are Tiana, Louis, and Mama Odie. Oh, wait...
Your biggest retorts to others is there is already sucky things...
It is possible to not want to it to suck more or have more suckage.
Chris D's Mickey is similar to old shorts which is it is going for. Not my thing in a modern Mickey but I get the goal.
Matt V sounds worse than any dad doing a bad kermit imitation. I don't even think it is an impression. Him being cast into the role was further evidence of Disney killing the property.
People need to stop with the sunset showcase move. It is getting a villians theater show that will run for many years and the cost to reproduce Muppets, an attraction they are demolishing would be not something they do. It's not the World's Fair.
trainplane3
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Eh, 20 years at least? The track is in a building and is only 25 years old. New trains will have a more noticeable impact.
Coaster Lover
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- In the Parks
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Well, how long had Space Mountain been chugging along?
I am curious on the timing on this. Voyage of the Little Mermaid is still dark until Summer 2025. Villians Show opens same time. Would make sense to wait to close Muppet Vision until at least after those other two open. How long do you think the turn around to convert the themeing on this is? Is it a quick retheme or are we looking at the 18 month time frame other more extensive rethemes have seen? Do we wait to close Muppet Vision until this is done to have a continuation of Muppet attractions?
donaldtoo
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Much to my DWifeys delight (sarcasm
), I turned our 3 (now adult) children into thrill ride junkies at an early age.Now, we have 2 young granddaughters (6 and 3) that are heading in the same direction.
Oldest granddaughter turned 5 on our trip in Oct. of 2023, skipped Barnstormer and went straight to BTMR. She wanted to get right back on and ride it again.
Between that trip, and our more recent trip in late June/early July of this year, she’s also ridden Space Mountain, TBA, TT, Ratatouille, Slinky Dog Dash, ToT, and she would have ridden RnRC, Dinosaur, FoP and EE, but RnRC was down both times that day, and we have yet to visit AK with them.
A few random pics of her on some of those rides…!!!
Cmdr_Crimson
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Ah, you mean exactly how he played himself as Constantine In Muppets Most Wanted...
And which is why Peter Lintz who plays Walter should Be Kermit as he voices Ernie Perfectly..
FigmentJedi
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Chris's Mickey is vastly superior to Bret Iwan's. For starters, he can actually emote while doing the voice.
FigmentJedi
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Problem is Linz took over Robin because Vogel's Robin was even worse then his Kermit.
Cmdr_Crimson
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Quite true and it's such a big problem hopefully could get figured out down the road...In the meantime will just have wrong sounding Muppets.
Muppets is safe bet. When Tiana replaced Splash Mountain the hate and disgust by some was loud and clear.
Brer Panther
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Once Upon a Studio shows that Chris actually can do a good Mickey if given good direction. In the shorts, he's doing a really half-baked "LOL SO WHACKY, ISN'T IT FUNNY HOW WE HAVE MICKEY ACTING LIKE A DERANGED OUT OF CHARACTER LUNATIC?!" Mickey, and as a result he sounds less like Mickey and more like a parody of Mickey from an episode of South Park or something.
I mean, heck, I'd argue that Matt Vogel's Kermit is closer to Steve Whitmire's than David Tennant's Scrooge McDuck is to Alan Young's, but I see David's Scrooge get nothing but praise.
LSLS
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Because it feels like complaining for the sake of complaining. It's not like this is a new build. The ride is already in the park. It's not changing the fact there is a launch coaster in the park. And it's not eliminating something for the whole family to do. Every complaint you have about it feeling like Universal does not change with this, unless your complaint is they should completely tear down RnRC and build something different (which I bet would make a whole lot more angry). As a MV3D lover, I'm still mad it's going when there are other areas laying essentially vacant, but I struggle to understand the complaint about this retheme.
GhostHost1000
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Still seeing a lot of backlash over the whole move muppets to RnRC thing.
While I hate to see Muppets 3D go, having a proper replacement to move the muppets might not have been as bad.
While I hate to see Muppets 3D go, having a proper replacement to move the muppets might not have been as bad.
They don't care about proper placement much anymore. It is not that this is the most egregious placement. But we know it is a convnient one.
As far as treating the Muppets properly. Great Moments in Muppet History could not last and that presented them as they should be. Muppet Mobil Labs was a fun way to present them and could not last. I don't think Disney has much care for them on treatment in the parks. I think this was partly planned as Electric Mayhem was in production and they figured there was a good gamble it was a hit. Far too on par with all other current park changes and the edict. It softens the blow as a bonus.
DisneyCane
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No. I know the story when I ride. It's just not really memorable so I don't remember it if I haven't ridden in a few months. I only ride on occasion because I have to load up with motion sickness pills beforehand to not feel sick when I get off.
