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Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion
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GhostHost1000
Premium Member
What bothers me is maelstrom is a decent ride people like AND there is a whole section of land between Norway and Mexico they could have extended the Norway pavilion built and entirely new ride AND make it the size something as popular as frozen needed to be. There is no way they can make the maelstrom footprint big enough for a frozen ride....and riding in a boat instead of a sled?
mouse_luv
Well-Known Member
I really hope you weren't just referring to me as being racist. I hope that comment was referring to Disney or the Original comment on ALaddin in Morocco.
I'm one of the first people that looked and said WTH is Aladdin doing in Morrocco?!? (I'm an historian and very particular on cultures being preserved). If you read back in the thread you will see me wigging out about them screwing up the cultural effects of Norway pavilion by doing this Frozen crap. If you want to go to war over cultures, Aladdin should be in China (he's historically Chinese), though the story setting is Syrian/Arabic. My only guess (head scratching at that...is the reason Disney put him in Morocco is it's a French written book).
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Rlandrigan
Active Member
Um. No one is sponsoring Norway now, so yeas, Disney is going to make make money. Plus, Maelstrom wasn't very good. , and the Princesses should have been a clue that the Norway areas was open territory. Would rather have unique cultural experiences, yes, but frankly most guests don't care if they have a fun time. At least it's a ride and not another food option, and hopefully the trend will continue as far as the castle, etc go - each new tentpole movie has it's temporary spotlight.
That said, We're going in december, and my daughter is flat out going to burst with all of this. So to heck with all the grumps, we're going to have a great trip
That said, We're going in december, and my daughter is flat out going to burst with all of this. So to heck with all the grumps, we're going to have a great trip
Gregoryp73
Active Member
They might as well just rename the park to "Disney's Florida Adventure"...it's pretty much steering far away from the original concept (even the watered down version of what walt envisioned).
Destroying a country's culture through branding and fiction is going to do nothing for these pavilions. Do they need to make the countries more accessible for the general public? Yes. More exciting? Yes. But totally re-imaging a country into a fictional cartoon scenario is beyond insulting to both the original country as well as the patron who wants to enjoy the closest they can get to a plane ticket to said destination.
This belongs in MK and DHS, and nowhere else in Florida.
Destroying a country's culture through branding and fiction is going to do nothing for these pavilions. Do they need to make the countries more accessible for the general public? Yes. More exciting? Yes. But totally re-imaging a country into a fictional cartoon scenario is beyond insulting to both the original country as well as the patron who wants to enjoy the closest they can get to a plane ticket to said destination.
This belongs in MK and DHS, and nowhere else in Florida.
maelstrom98
Active Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Glad to see @Macdaddy1717 was right that this is not happening...
Does anyone want to try and tell us how a snack counter still means there will be lots of Norway left in the pavilion?
Does anyone want to try and tell us how a snack counter still means there will be lots of Norway left in the pavilion?
It would more have to be a ride based on aFrench film inspired by a Mexican story that is set in something sort of like the southwestern US being used to represent American culture.
mmkr03
Member
Maybe I'm just looking through my rose colored glasses but I choose to wait and see for myself. I discovered Disney later in life and didn't grow up going to the world. Because of that I don''t have a love affair with Maelstrom and If TDO decides to put their money towards a good refresh it could be real nice. On the other hand it could be awful! All we can do is wait and see...
Yes, it will. Snow White is one of the Grimm Brothers fairy tale and those fairy tale have played a huge role in German history and were part of our culture for a long time, the Grimm Brothers just collected those tales that were passed on from generation to generation by retelling them. Frozen is based on a fairy tale that was written and invented by a Danish (not Norwegian!) author - Denmark being the country that governed Norway for 400 years in a way that most Norwegians did not approve of.
Pixie VaVoom
Well-Known Member
I fear you are wrong my friend...if they can sell FROZEN and all 4 Parks, and the 2 water Parks, AND Downtown Disney (maybe a new "Frozen In DTD Shopping Tour" ...Anyone ??) ...THEN they will do it !!
Hula Popper
Well-Known Member
Are the Norwegian tourism boards being ignorant and culturally insensitive too? They seem to be happy with using Frozen as a hook to drum up tourism to their country:
http://en.trondelag.com/disneys-frozen-inspired-by-trondelag-central-norway/
http://campaign.visitnorway.com/us/Disney-Frozen/Disneys-Frozen--inspired-by-Norway/
http://www.nordnorge.com/en/frozen/?News=405
twistedmickey
Member
very sad to hear this is really going to happen. maelstrom has been part of epcot for so many years but because of money it is being replaced. disney has forgotten about nostalgia. it all has become about money and greed.
BrerJon
Well-Known Member
Nope, not you, Disney.
Oriolesmagic
Well-Known Member
You know, it's very possible that Frozen could be a great ride. But nostalgia holds a lot of value (admittedly, not with the younger ones) and it's hard to get past that.
Looking at Disney's recent efforts, there's about a 50% chance that this ride could be done well. That doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence. If what we've been hearing (about the redo being a cheap one) is true, than that just diminishes confidence further.
anoldtruthteller
New Member
Does anyone realize Maelstrom is one of the worst rated attractions at "WDW"? It also has some the least requests for FP+. This one change will drive attendance to Epcot like never before, and update attraction which is quite frankly horrible. Not sure what a very minimal group is holding onto?
I'm sure @WDW1974 will make a point of this, but it is very telling that they are releasing this on a Friday aka bury it in the news cycle. You would think that they would put this out earlier in the week to bolster excitement. They must know that this will not be a universally popular decision, upsetting the diehard WDW fans.
CDavid
Well-Known Member
The Maelstrom redo into Frozen could be the greatest attraction Disney has ever created - but it still wouldn't fit thematically in World Showcase. Of course, it isn't even likely to be a 'good refresh'; More likely, a quick and cheap overlay.