Disney asks Congress to butt out of business travel

uklad79

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So the lobbyists in Washington are loosing power in Obama's America, interesting that they are turning to the media to try (and most likely fail) to get there own way by swaying public opinion.
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
We are not turning into a Communist Country. Far from it. If we were becoming Communist The government would take over the companys' not bail them out.


enter case study: Citi Bank... getting awfully close to that "take over" stage...36% is a significant amount of that company for the government to own.

enter case study: AIG...government OWNs 80% of the stock of that company...in other words, the government took over AIG.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
enter case study: Citi Bank... getting awfully close to that "take over" stage...36% is a significant amount of that company for the government to own.

enter case study: AIG...government OWNs 80% of the stock of that company...in other words, the government took over AIG.
I really don't want to debate this but remember how Citi Bank used our tax dollars for a Corprate Jet? They are not taking over. The banks need some Government help so they can back on their feet otherwise they might destroy themselves.
 

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
I really don't want to debate this but remember how Citi Bank used our tax dollars for a Corprate Jet? They are not taking over. The banks need some Government help so they can back on their feet otherwise they might destroy themselves.


your definition of takeover is an odd one.

obviously swayed by the media.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
I knew Rasulo was going to exploit the economy and if Rasulo's against it' Im for it.
How is this exploiting the economy?

They are expressing their views in a letter to the government in conjunction with several other companies that may be affected by the harsh rhetoric targeted towards business travel.

Your view of Rasulo seems very personal. I am assuming you must have met the man for you to have such vitriol against him.

uklad79 said:
So the lobbyists in Washington are loosing power in Obama's America, interesting that they are turning to the media to try (and most likely fail) to get there own way by swaying public opinion.

The media and the bailout of companies are not the issues in this thread.

Again, Disney, along with other companies, is concerned that the tone the government has taken across the board is hurting legitimate business travel.

I'm sure they would not be making these statements unless they have some sort of evidence to back it up.
 

HMF

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Your view of Rasulo seems very personal. I am assuming you must have met the man for you to have such vitriol against him.
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I have not met him personally. However' I have seen the damage he has done. Putting Disney characters where they don't belong. Making up fake Celebrations to cash in on the success of Disneyland's 50th. Failing to properly celebrate Epcot's Silver Anniversary' merging all the parks into a generic "Disney Parks" brand and is now using the economy as an excuse for his "One Disney" agenda.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
I have not met him personally. However' I have seen the damage he has done. Putting Disney characters where they don't belong. Making up fake Celebrations to cash in on the success of Disneyland's 50th. Failing to properly celebrate Epcot's Silver Anniversary' merging all the parks into a generic "Disney Parks" brand and is now using the economy as an excuse for his "One Disney" agenda.
To keep this thread on topic, how does this letter fit into your "Rasulo/economy" conspiracy?
 

HMF

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To keep this thread on topic, how does this letter fit into your "Rasulo/economy" conspiracy?
As I said Rasulo is using the economic crisis as an excuse to push his "Disney Parks are all the same" initiative. on the other hand I do think it is a good time to take a vacation. As has been examplified we are living in difficult times and the Disney Parks even with all their flaws would be a great place to unwind.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
As I said Rasulo is using the economic crisis as an excuse to push his "Disney Parks are all the same" initiative.
So Jay got together with, Carlson Resorts, Fairmont, Hilton, Hyatt, IHG, Loews, Marriott, Starwood, and Wyndham and said, "Hey guys, I need to solidify my powerbase at Disney. Can we throw together a totally unsubstantiated letter and send it to Congress?"
 

HMF

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So Jay got together with, Carlson Resorts, Fairmont, Hilton, Hyatt, IHG, Loews, Marriott, Starwood, and Wyndham and said, "Hey guys, I need to solidify my powerbase at Disney. Can we throw together a totally unsubstantiated letter and send it to Congress?"
I really don't know what the agenda of the other companies are' but I really don't trust Rasulo.
 

Missing20K

Well-Known Member
I think this thread has progressed very nicely without any banter or name calling. It's not politics directly but it is a touchy subject, but even so, there haven't been any comments made in this thread yet to suggest that it shouldn't be around...which I'm guessing is what your comment was referring to...the rule about politics and religion on this site...

While I am aware of the rule regarding politics and religion, I was more making the point that discussions of those subjects are touchy at best. I find it ironic that people argue so much over those two subjects when the end goal is ultimately the same, well-run government, and eternal salvation, respectively. The means to those ends are what the arguments are over, and those arguments are usually fruitless. That was really my point, I guess, was that in my opinion, this discussion would be fruitless, as opinions on the subject are widely varied yet very strong. When opinions are varied and strong, tolerance is the only answer. A couple of pennies from my pocket.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
I am concerned about the fact that Rasulo's signature is on the list that this must not be a good thing.
 

jmvd20

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Your points are well taken. And I don't mean to come off as nieve and seem like I think I'm above this entire situation

You weren't coming off that way at all. Sorry if I implied that with the statement, I just meant that as of right now I have so far not been hurt by the financial situation but I know that doesn't mean it cant eventually happen. Sure my retirement funds are severely damaged but I am still a long way from retirement, unfortunately some people I know were not so lucky - not people who couldn't afford what they bought, just ones that had retirement money invested in stocks... needless to say they lost a lot.


Much like as Dave said, if I were to loose my job then yes, things would have to get alittle tighter budget wise, but I would be able to make due for quite awhile before I had to worry. I'm by no means rich (still finishing college here), but I've been smart about my money, and have always put a significant amount into savings over the years.

Savings are over-rated, do the economy a favor and spend that dang money! It'll be called the Dave/Devoy stimulus package! ;)


I don't think that the companies that have needed Tax-Funds should have been bailed out, nor should those who bought those $600,000 homes they couldn't afford..they are all equally at fault and should suffer these hardships together. Hardships that will make the individual and/or company stronger and more responsible if they make it through this.


That is what I was trying to get at about companies and individuals having to adapt to the new economic situation. Buisness travel was one example related to the letter. No matter what happens I dont think things will ever be the way they were prior to this economic situation, for better or worse the economy of this country and the world will evolve and adapt to the new situation.
 

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