Tony the Tigger
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Tony the Tigger
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I remember one Christmas, my Grandfather bought these inexpensive stuffed superheroes. Maybe 18" tall. My little brother got the Superman. I got the Spider-Man. I felt slighted! LOL.
The Tobey-Man are still my favorite Spideys. I took a date to the third one. I loved it, especially the whole "Raindrops" montage. He thought the movie sucked. We broke up. Ha!
I often like what the mainstream bro-verse decries. Ewoks. Disco.
I wanted to add, and I saw someone else put this far more eloquently then I will ... but I want to give it a go. I feel what made this Spider-Man movie really work for me, and gave me those nice emotional feels I don't usually get from Spider-Man was....
that this was really a character driven story. It was about the human behind the superhuman. It took someone that can be hard to relate to, and made their struggle and story in the film highly relatable.
I like that the goal of the film wasn't "find this special item" or "defeat the green goblin and save New York". It was... who is Peter Parker? And can Peter Parker do Spider-Man, all alone?
I like that the goal of the film wasn't "find this special item" or "defeat the green goblin and save New York". It was... who is Peter Parker? And can Peter Parker do Spider-Man, all alone?
TP2000
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It would seem that great storytelling about a relatable character still means something to global audiences, instead of checking off HR approved boxes and shoehorning in cringe and then just expecting global audiences to obey and buy a ticket.
Who knew?!
I recall some on here saying they didn't see Spider-Man doing that well (for some reason)... and yet it just became the highest grossing film of the year by it's first Tuesday.
I still think this could get to (or really close to) 2 billion.
I still think this could get to (or really close to) 2 billion.
easyrowrdw
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I didn’t think it would do this well. Spidey has always been successful but the last one felt like a culmination of the story. Doing even better numbers now really surprised me.
I think it’s a wonder NWH did as well as it did given no China, and I am pretty sure it was released and then theatres closed again a week later in Ontario… meaning covid stuff was still at play.
LSLS
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I don't know if I would go THAT far, but I think this weekend tells us a lot about if that prediction can come true. I definitely didn't predict it wouldn't do well (don't put me on that group), but I didn't see it doing this either. I'm excited it is though, Marvel needs some big wins.
Ghost93
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I am puzzled why THIS Spider-man movie specifically is destined to be among the top 5 highest grossing movies of all time. Like, it was good and I love Spider-man. But it wasn't quite the event that No Way Home was with the three Spider-men and all the villains and artistically I'd rank it around the middle of all the Spider-man movies ever made. It's also surprising it's making more than any other Spider-man film at a time in which the superhero genre has faced major setbacks compared to its heyday in the 2010s.
I'm happy for the film, but it is baffling. I can easily see why the first Avatar, Titanic, Avengers: Endgame and Star Wars: The Force Awakens were all $2 billion films as I really felt the hype and the cultural zeitgeist of those films when they were released.
Maybe my Internet algorithm has just not fed me much Spider-man/Marvel content this year so its release seemed to sneak up on me more. Who knows.
Wendy Pleakley
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Well, famously no one knew that No Way Home had multiple Spider-Men in it so it didn't draw as big an audience
If I had to surmise a reason I think a part of it is audiences have been waiting for a traditional summer blockbuster that's just a fun experience.
Supergirl and He-Man didn't resonate, and the Mandalorian was so-so in terms of business. The Odyssey skewed more towards adults.
It took until August for the traditional Summer blockbuster to arrive.
I remember the days when there'd be a huge opening for a new movie every weekend in the summer season. Audiences may be more discerning now and holding out for something specific and reliable.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Don't quote me on the info, but these are the numbers I've seen thrown around as their main reasons for seeing it.
PostTrak exit polling for Spider-Man: Brand New Day, audiences cited -
Love for the franchise (58%),
The film looking fun and entertaining (47%)
The overall cast (41%)
Tom Holland's return (39%)
Zendaya's involvement (29%)
LSLS
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I mean didn't No Way Home bring in almost $2 billion? If people loved that, they could see this as a continuation of the story they really like. Also, could be an indication people aren't sick of Superhero movies as much as people think, they just need interesting characters/stories that they know.
Ghost93
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That might be it. Since Moana was kind of dead on arrival, I think Spider-man is sorta filling in the void as the go-to movie choice for families in July. When I saw the movie there were very young children (like ages 5-7) in the theater and they seemed to be invested in it.
BrianLo
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Oh - it should really have no issue going past 2B. It would be a pretty sharp drop off otherwise. It’s more where the potential top end is. Mid… upper?
No way home was a pandemic movie and lacked China. Maybe an argument could be made that one was suppressed.
I’m going to hilariously reference the @TP2000 Halloween index, but it was the most popular costume I saw for boys last year. In addition to the MCU being clearly a millennial franchise, Spider-Man might be pulling younger generations in the way other MCU films perhaps haven’t been. Or the audience is expanding on this franchise as you noted above.
Hawkeye_2018
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Young people love this cast. Even if it had mediocre reviews, it would do very well.
Indeed...
A 50% drop from the first week would be an extra $500M.
A 50% drop from that 2nd week would be an extra$250M.
A 50% drop from that 3rd week would be an extra$125M.
Etc...
The cumulative sum of compounding halves is *one*.
So, if the first week is $1B, then a 50% drop off week after week would wind up with another $1B.
Maths!!!
Many are thinking this could reached 2.5, with 1 billion domestic.
LSLS
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Like I said, this weekend will tell a lot. I simply am not ready to say that yet, but I'm definitely not trying to imply it's impossible or has almost no chance.
BrianLo
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For sure, it’s never guaranteed. But it has a 160% larger debut than Brand New Day, so it would be quite a disappointing underperformance to not clear 2.
There was some overly optimistic chatter about 3 (elsewhere I haunt), which I think is incredibly over optimistic. But I think it has a greater chance of pulling that off than not clearing 2.
LSLS
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I think the question I just don't know the answer to is if the movie going has changed. Are people still going to movies multiple times in a theater, or mostly 1 and done cause of the commitment to going needed. If it is one and done, it could just be everyone went week 1 and you see a big drop week 2 and beyond (basically the people who usually wait to hear about the movie to see if it's worth it).