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News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections
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JohnD
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I'm no fan of the amendment added to the transportation bill. But I'm not joining the sky is falling mentality either. Ride inspections are not affected by the signed transportation bill. Nor was Disney affected by the ride inspection bill which affects theme parks smaller than Disney (an amendment WAS considered but withdrawn).
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LittleBuford
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You're talking about the Tyre Sampson Act, which was signed into law yesterday.
We're talking about legislation that DeSantis said he would introduce but that appears to have been put on hold for now:
DeSantis’ call for state to inspect Disney rides doesn’t fly ｜ Orlando Sentinel
ORLANDO, Fla. — State officials will not take over Space Mountain or other Disney World ride inspections soon, despite Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis saying it would happen. State lawmakers in the session that ended May 5 did not consider a bill for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer...
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JohnD
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Yes. I saw that article. I can assure you it's not happening without a law which there isn't. Perhaps he was hoping to get an amendment added to the Sampson bill. Fortunately, the Legislature came to their senses and kept the bill "clean." The regular session is adjourned sine die and there is no appetite for another special session about anything. Certainly, not now. Could it come up in the 2024 session which starts up in January? Perhaps. But not today.You're talking about the Tyre Sampson Act, which was signed into law yesterday.
We're talking about legislation that DeSantis said he would introduce but that appears to have been put on hold for now:
DeSantis’ call for state to inspect Disney rides doesn’t fly ｜ Orlando Sentinel
ORLANDO, Fla. — State officials will not take over Space Mountain or other Disney World ride inspections soon, despite Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis saying it would happen. State lawmakers in the session that ended May 5 did not consider a bill for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer...
LittleBuford
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Yes, I know that. That's why I said it's on hold!
TP2000
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No, I just make stuff up based off of hazy memory and an old stack of E Ticket magazines from the 1990's.
But as I'm just back home from a lovely dinner-n-dessert evening and am in a wonderful mood, let me Google a bit...
From Wikipedia, comes this first paragraph that sums up the 75 year history of "Arrow" before it became Arrow Dynamics...
"Arrow Dynamics was an American manufacturing and engineering company that specialized in designing and building amusement park rides, especially roller coasters. Based in Clearfield, Utah, the company was the successor to Arrow Development (1946–1981) and Arrow Huss (1981–1986), which were responsible for several influential advancements in the amusement and theme park industries. Among the most significant was tubular steel track, which provided a smoother ride than the railroad style rails commonly used prior to the 1960s on wooden roller coasters. The Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland, built in 1959, was Arrow's first roller coaster project."
Arrow Dynamics also built WDW's Space Mountain in 1975, and all of WDW's 1971 dark rides and round rides, including Small World for both Disneyland (World's Fair version) and WDW.
List of Arrow Dynamics rides - Wikipedia
And yet there's also a 21st century offshoot, via several corporate buyouts and/or drunken bar brawls, of the old Arrow Dynamics now called Dynamic Attractions, as Wikipedia describes it...
"In July 2017, the Dynamic Attractions company combined with all the "ride system" elements of the Dynamic Structures company. The new Dynamic Attractions organization includes the Ride Development Center (Formerly Dynamic Structures offices and facility) in Port Coquitlam, Canada, as well as the Attraction Development Center in Orlando, Florida."
That firm under that name has built several E Ticket ride systems in the 21st century for Disney theme parks, like Soarin' (at both DCA and Epcot), Test Track, the 2005 rebuild of Disneyland's Space Mountain, the Mark VII Monorails, Radiator Springs Racers, etc.
Dynamic Structures - Wikipedia
I think my original point remains valid; Orlando (greater metro area) remains the center of the ride system industry universe. So any regulated oversight of theme park rides by the state of Florida should be welcomed by that industry.
An extra set of eyes can always help when it comes to safety around heavy machinery!
P.S. I've actually been to Port Coquitlam B.C. twice. If I'd know it was a business satellite of the Orlando metro area, I would have dressed down!
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TP2000
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You say it's "on hold", I say it "didn't make it out of committee". Tomato, Tohmahto. When do we call the whole thing off?
TP2000
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Thank you. That explains the blurb I'd read earlier about this bill from some source I can't find now, nor do I care to since I've lost interest after spending 8 minutes too long researching the 70 year history and difference between Arrow Dynamics and Dynamic Attractions.
The bill died in committee. For now. It may resurface in the 2024 congressional session in Tallahassee. Or it may not. It's just a bill on capitol hill.
Rich Brownn
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It's technically a funicular railroad.
Figgy1
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JohnD
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Well, legislative session anyway. But I get your point. The session starts earlier in January in even numbered years so they can wrap up the first week of March and focus on their re-elections.
lazyboy97o
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So, just bad at research. Dynamic Attractions and Dynamic Structures were never part of any iteration of Arrow. Companies can have the same word in their names without being related. There are only two, relatively small, manufacturers with a presence in Orlando that is more than a sales office. So, no, your bogus point doesn’t stand at all because it’s just strung together nonsense that ignores reality.No, I just make stuff up based off of hazy memory and an old stack of E Ticket magazines from the 1990's.
But as I'm just back home from a lovely dinner-n-dessert evening and am in a wonderful mood, let me Google a bit...
From Wikipedia, comes this first paragraph that sums up the 75 year history of "Arrow" before it became Arrow Dynamics...
"Arrow Dynamics was an American manufacturing and engineering company that specialized in designing and building amusement park rides, especially roller coasters. Based in Clearfield, Utah, the company was the successor to Arrow Development (1946–1981) and Arrow Huss (1981–1986), which were responsible for several influential advancements in the amusement and theme park industries. Among the most significant was tubular steel track, which provided a smoother ride than the railroad style rails commonly used prior to the 1960s on wooden roller coasters. The Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland, built in 1959, was Arrow's first roller coaster project."
Arrow Dynamics also built WDW's Space Mountain in 1975, and all of WDW's 1971 dark rides and round rides, including Small World for both Disneyland (World's Fair version) and WDW.
List of Arrow Dynamics rides - Wikipedia
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And yet there's also a 21st century offshoot, via several corporate buyouts and/or drunken bar brawls, of the old Arrow Dynamics now called Dynamic Attractions, as Wikipedia describes it...
"In July 2017, the Dynamic Attractions company combined with all the "ride system" elements of the Dynamic Structures company. The new Dynamic Attractions organization includes the Ride Development Center (Formerly Dynamic Structures offices and facility) in Port Coquitlam, Canada, as well as the Attraction Development Center in Orlando, Florida."
That firm under that name has built several E Ticket ride systems in the 21st century for Disney theme parks, like Soarin' (at both DCA and Epcot), Test Track, the 2005 rebuild of Disneyland's Space Mountain, the Mark VII Monorails, Radiator Springs Racers, etc.
Dynamic Structures - Wikipedia
I think my original point remains valid; Orlando (greater metro area) remains the center of the ride system industry universe. So any regulated oversight of theme park rides by the state of Florida should be welcomed by that industry.
An extra set of eyes can always help when it comes to safety around heavy machinery!
P.S. I've actually been to Port Coquitlam B.C. twice. If I'd know it was a business satellite of the Orlando metro area, I would have dressed down!
TP2000
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I think later in the weekend I'll create a little list of all the ride system manufacturers that have a sales/engineering/manufacturing presence in Florida versus California. Wouldn't that be a fun list!?! And then there's IAAPA, the granddaddy of the theme park industry.
It kind of makes more sense why they wanted to move WDI to Orlando now, and not just for the main reason of the much higher cost of doing business and employing people in California versus Florida.
I loved that one when I was very little!!!!!!!!! THNX for the memories
Oh my dear lady, it was my pleasure! I started humming that song earlier in the thread and giggling about it, then decided to include the clip for the youngsters or people from foreign lands who might not have had the pleasure of those animated shorts in their childhood.
Weren't those shorts wonderful? I was not their target demographic in the 1970's, but I still loved them. That grammar one about "Conjunction Junction", and the history one about the Great American Melting Pot were my favorites.
TP2000
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MAN, you are showing your age here referencing Arrow
That was nothing! You should see how embarrassing it is now when I try and get out on the dance floor.
lazyboy97o
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This is not a California-Florida issue, no matter how much you want to use that tired old whataboutism. Nobody has said California is a center of ride system manufacturing, probably because they’re not as uninformed as you are on the subject. And maybe try to read and comprehend some of IAAPA’s publications before trying to invoke their name in your nonsense.
LittleBuford
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How is any of this relevant?
scottieRoss
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As your research shows. Dynamic Attractions is not an Orlando based company. It is a division of a BC based company with its headquarters and main design studio in Canada.No, I just make stuff up based off of hazy memory and an old stack of E Ticket magazines from the 1990's.
But as I'm just back home from a lovely dinner-n-dessert evening and am in a wonderful mood, let me Google a bit...
From Wikipedia, comes this first paragraph that sums up the 75 year history of "Arrow" before it became Arrow Dynamics...
"Arrow Dynamics was an American manufacturing and engineering company that specialized in designing and building amusement park rides, especially roller coasters. Based in Clearfield, Utah, the company was the successor to Arrow Development (1946–1981) and Arrow Huss (1981–1986), which were responsible for several influential advancements in the amusement and theme park industries. Among the most significant was tubular steel track, which provided a smoother ride than the railroad style rails commonly used prior to the 1960s on wooden roller coasters. The Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland, built in 1959, was Arrow's first roller coaster project."
Arrow Dynamics also built WDW's Space Mountain in 1975, and all of WDW's 1971 dark rides and round rides, including Small World for both Disneyland (World's Fair version) and WDW.
List of Arrow Dynamics rides - Wikipedia
And yet there's also a 21st century offshoot, via several corporate buyouts and/or drunken bar brawls, of the old Arrow Dynamics now called Dynamic Attractions, as Wikipedia describes it...
"In July 2017, the Dynamic Attractions company combined with all the "ride system" elements of the Dynamic Structures company. The new Dynamic Attractions organization includes the Ride Development Center (Formerly Dynamic Structures offices and facility) in Port Coquitlam, Canada, as well as the Attraction Development Center in Orlando, Florida."
That firm under that name has built several E Ticket ride systems in the 21st century for Disney theme parks, like Soarin' (at both DCA and Epcot), Test Track, the 2005 rebuild of Disneyland's Space Mountain, the Mark VII Monorails, Radiator Springs Racers, etc.
Dynamic Structures - Wikipedia
I think my original point remains valid; Orlando (greater metro area) remains the center of the ride system industry universe. So any regulated oversight of theme park rides by the state of Florida should be welcomed by that industry.
An extra set of eyes can always help when it comes to safety around heavy machinery!
P.S. I've actually been to Port Coquitlam B.C. twice. If I'd know it was a business satellite of the Orlando metro area, I would have dressed down!
Your original post is not valid. Orlando is not the center of the ride system industry universe. It is far from it. And for the list, here it is again.
hardly, the center
Patcheslee
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FDOT will have to work with Disney to develop the standards too. Specifically calls out in the law they must, so no getting away from that.
JohnD
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That language is already in statute. Now that Disney has been added in, yes, they fall under the entire statute.