Damage Control PR Spin for Star Wars Begins

[RescueTheDay]

Well then you need go back to school because this was very well written and very coherent with points laid out very clearly.

Since you seem to struggle with that new thing called Bing and Google, I'll help you out with what publicly leaked from what I know:

Here's an article from when it leaked that Trevorrow was fired for wanting Luke alive in Episode 9:
https://www.inverse.com/article/42797-star-wars-episode-ix-rumor-luke-lives

And now what I'm going to let you do, since you are so worried I'm writing a "fanboy manifesto" instead of having worked with Lucasfilm at times in the past, is I'm going to let you use that Bing / Google contraption that I told you about to find the interview where Mark Hamill confirms that he and Trevorrow worked on Luke's character in Episode 9 together, and that Luke would have both been alive and VERY powerful. Mark was not happy when Trevorrow was fired, he was not happy at all with Rian Johnson (the two sort of hate each other), and Mark still holds a pretty big grudge that the original gang didn't get to be together in the first film. He's not a happy camper.

Now... all that said, I'm going to give you a little bit of insider information below... it is in the spoiler-ish category, so if you don't want to read it, you need to skip this now:

Episode 9 SPOILER ALERT (highlight to see):
The call came down from Alan Horn as a non-negotiable late last year that Luke Skywalker is to return in Episode 9 in a non-ghost form. The call also came down that Luke Skywalker was to be in a battle in the finished product in which he wins, and that he must appear triumphant and heroic by the end of the film. This was very contrary to Kennedy and Abram's script, as well as Lucasfilm Story Group's ethos. However, it was given as a concrete directive. This resulted in rewrites and reshoots beginning in January of this year to bring Mark and the gang back in to get Luke Skywalker much more prominently featured in the film.

Spoilers End

As for Galaxy's Edge, there's more spin today, but I've typed enough for the morning, so I'll grab those articles later for another update.

I’m not here to fact check your work lol. You then choose to send me a RUMOR that really offered no facts or real information... My apologies for the fan manifesto comment. Seems like it’s more of a former employee manifesto, which basically is the same thing

 

[mary2013]

When Kathleen Kennedy took over Lucasfilm, she brought in extremely partisan and ideologically driven individuals and placed them in positions of power. This was dramatically true on the new Lucasfilm Story Group. These individuals did not like the original Star Wars, they did not believe in its mythos, and they saw the franchise as so unassailably popular that they could use it as a means by which to influence the culture.

Who are you talking about?

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

The only way they're "influencing the culture" is selling record numbers of Star Wars t shirts.

 

[WDW Pro]

I’m not here to fact check your work lol. You then choose to send me a RUMOR that really offered no facts or real information... My apologies for the fan manifesto comment. Seems like it’s more of a former employee manifesto, which basically is the same thing

So when I post publicly known information, you're going to require that I provide you with background information rather than you catching up with what is already widely known by using search engines. Then when I provide you with a starting point and describe in perfect detail a specific interview that you can look up which corroborates the starting point, you call it a rumor and modify your insult.

I'll remember not to respond to you until you're ready to have adult conversations.

 

[WDW Pro]

Who are you talking about?

Kiri Hart, for one, is someone that I would consider more of an ideological activist than someone driven to write good story or appeal to a broader audience. I would go so far as to say that Kiri Hart is abrasive and very interested in identity politics, even to the point of damaging a brand if it means the brand fits within her worldview... and she's not somebody that I ever care to interact with again.

 

[Epcot_Imagineer]

Almost posted to tell this thread to get back on track, thinking it was a SW:GE thread. Thank God we finally have a thread where everyone can vent their opinions about the sequel trilogy.

 

[RescueTheDay]

So when I post publicly known information, you're going to require that I provide you with background information rather than you catching up with what is already widely known by using search engines. Then when I provide you with a starting point and describe in perfect detail a specific interview that you can look up which corroborates the starting point, you call it a rumor and modify your insult.

I'll remember not to respond to you until you're ready to have adult conversations.

I hate being scolded by my elders, but...

You posted a rumor site and stated more information as if it were fact. Would you like me to continue googling until I find information you like? I don’t deny that Mark didn’t agree with Rian’s choices and they didn’t get along. Nor that he wanted a reunion with the original cast, but this doesn’t make the rest of your information correct.

Please continue on with whatever narrative you would like to play. I will no longer take the bait with the spread of misinformation.

 

[Epcot_Imagineer]

Y’all read too much into it. The Last Jedi’s an overall good movie.

Never thought I'd see the day I agree with an entire TROR post, but here we are.

 

[Supreme Leader]

I ❤ the Sequel Trilogy. It's so much better than the Originals.

 

[TROR]

I ❤ the Sequel Trilogy. It's so much better than the Originals.

Let’s calm down.

 

[WDW Pro]

I hate being scolded by my elders, but...

You posted a rumor site and stated more information as if it were fact. Would you like me to continue googling until I find information you like? I don’t deny that Mark didn’t agree with Rian’s choices and they didn’t get along. Nor that he wanted a reunion with the original cast, but this doesn’t make the rest of your information correct.

Please continue on with whatever narrative you would like to play. I will no longer take the bait with the spread of misinformation.

https://cosmicbook.news/mark-hamill-star-wars-outraged-shocked-tricked-mistake

 

[Supreme Leader]

Let’s calm down.

I am calm

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

“The Last Jedi” blows chunks.

 

[TROR]

“The Last Jedi” blows chunks.

Why?

 

[shambolicdefending]

For me, the Disney iterations of Star Wars (especially The Last Jedi) feel like watching an NFL game where one team loses by 20 points because they throw three interceptions that all get returned for touchdowns. Overall, the losing team isn't far away from winning and only makes a few isolated mistakes. But, those mistakes are big enough to completely overturn everything else that went well, and the final score ends up looking lopsided.

There have been so many good and promising things done in the four Disney Star Wars movies. But the things they've gotten wrong, they've gotten REALLY wrong.

 

[DLR>WDW]

#DisneyFamilia... Ahahahahaahahahahaha

 

[Kram Sacul]

DisneyFamilia is offensive to everyone else.

 

[Snow Queen]

I've found Disney's Star Wars movies to be a mixed bag leaning to positive. I loved Force Awakens, though I've been left with some uncertainty there after how much I disliked the direction they took for characters in Last Jedi (believe it or not, not Luke....but also a tiny bit of Luke) and it's really going to depend on Rise of Skywalker if the first film stays as golden in my mind. I am one of the three people who love Solo, badly paced first act and all. Rogue One, I like parts of it. Jedha's great, both as an environment and as a sequence, but I found the characters very thin and not really interesting apart from Chirrut and Baze. I've become a little warmer on it since Last Jedi let me down, but Felicity Jones and Diego Luna feel either miscast or misdirected in their performances and that does hurt it for me. I've actually quite enjoyed what they've done outside of the films. There's a lot of great material in the comics, I've enjoyed the handful of their books I've read, and while Rebels isn't quite up to Clone Wars quality to me, it grew in it's later seasons into a worth installment that fleshed out the universe in interesting ways. So as with anything, it's...mixed. But overall I'm alright with where things have gone outside of Last Jedi. To tie things back into Galaxy's Edge, I can't justify a visit until Rise of the Resistance is open, but it seems like one I'm going to enjoy a lot even if I think it could use some touches to make it feel a bit more alive.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

She wasn't surpised = expected it.
It's fair = understandable.

These are not hard leaps in logic.

“Everyone’s going to have an opinion now anyway on the internet, but I also think it’s fair.”


She thinks it’s fair for everyone to have an opinion on the Internet - in general - not because of anything she said was “wrong” with that film.

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

Why?

Wholly irrelevant story arcs that contribute nothing to the larger film or saga (Finn & the Asian girl whose name I can't remember), really stilted and unnatural pacing of humor throughout the movie (your mom joke in the first few seconds of the film, Luke dusting his shoulder off during the last scene etc.), established characters acting out of character (Luke, Yoda), ridiculous/illogical moments (Leia flying through space, the entire chase sequence) saga mysteries being revealed to be absolutely nothing/wasted (Snoke dead, Rey's parents are nobodies).

Add all that on top of previously present issues that the sequel trilogy has like poor lead characters and generally not really having a reason for existing.