Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[correcaminos]

For those of you who were part of the vaccine trials, when is your one year follow up? I'm extremely interested in what they find regarding the length of time the protection lasts and when boosters may be required.

One year after 1st dose more or less. It's not as exact as the beginning appointments. We're given a 2 week window. My 6 month was 6 months closer to 2nd draw but I wasn't scheduled to be available previous weeks. I'm due back early Sept. That said I am never given my specific results.

Each person and part of the trial will be at different points. I was supposed to be over 3 weeks earlier but a computer glitch and then waiting for supplies caused me to wait 3.5 weeks more than the earlier locals. June IIRC is when the earliest numbers would be from.

I am not due for a shot either at this point. Only a draw, but if it changes I'll say something.

 

[Flugell]

People want this to be over. They aren't going to keep going back for boosters. I agree that 50% is the best case and would probably be lower than that.

I totally agree people want this over. So they need to be proactive and get the vaccine! Why do you think people won’t go back for boosters when summoned or scheduled? I think the vaccinated will do what is required, after all they have done so in the past, so why not in the future?
We were instructed to be optimistic on this thread so don’t set a target of 50% for boosters and expect less, set a target of 100% as the vaccine has protected them and not caused any significant side effects. In fact everyone going for a booster should aim to take a vaccine hesitant person and drag them along saying I’ve been vaccinated for a year(?) with no problems now it’s your turn to experience that sense of safety and satisfaction that being vaccinated gives! There are no reasons, apart from medical, to justify not getting the vaccine!

 

[Communicora]

People want this to be over. They aren't going to keep going back for boosters. I agree that 50% is the best case and would probably be lower than that.

I do think a lot of us expected this would become a yearly shot. However, I do agree that the uptake percentage will be lower than for the initial dose(s).

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I'm interested to know if the protection lasts at least a year. I fear that if boosters were required more often than the flu shot, the percentage getting the booster would be under 50% best case.

People want this to be over. They aren't going to keep going back for boosters. I agree that 50% is the best case and would probably be lower than that.

If so, that’s pathetic. Bunch of spoiled brats.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Prediction... we will only need boosters within the next few years if a new variant escapes coverage of the current vaccines in significant numbers. It would be very odd for the effect of a vaccine to wear off so soon, especially one significantly designed to confer lasting immunity.

Flu vaccines are a different story. There's enough antigenic shift in the dominant strain year to year that a long-lasting vaccine isn't all that useful. They aren't designed to induce an enduring response.

 

[Flugell]

IF boosters are required and the virus is still active in other areas in the world the risk of spread would be similar to what it was at the start, so the booster would be essential and just as important as the initial vaccine dose. With that in mind, why would the previously “safe” i.e. vaccinated not get the booster?

 

[lisa12000]

I think down the line it will just be part of the flu vaccine routine ie go and get them both together

 

[DisneyCane]

Prediction... we will only need boosters within the next few years if a new variant escapes coverage of the current vaccines in significant numbers. It would be very odd for the effect of a vaccine to wear off so soon, especially one significantly designed to confer lasting immunity.

Flu vaccines are a different story. There's enough antigenic shift in the dominant strain year to year that a long-lasting vaccine isn't all that useful. They aren't designed to induce an enduring response.

I hope your prediction comes true. That way, over time we can get a higher and higher percentage of people protected. With the flu vaccine, does the immunity to the three strains that are in the shot last a few years?

 

[DisneyFan32]

Prediction... we will only need boosters within the next few years if a new variant escapes coverage of the current vaccines in significant numbers. It would be very odd for the effect of a vaccine to wear off so soon, especially one significantly designed to confer lasting immunity.

Flu vaccines are a different story. There's enough antigenic shift in the dominant strain year to year that a long-lasting vaccine isn't all that useful. They aren't designed to induce an enduring response.

I think current vaccines will last longer protection for years from COVID-19.

 

[Rumrunner]

This pandemic is virtually over-go enjoy your life and don't live in fear or be influenced by the scare tactics

 

[GoofGoof]

The trials were across the whole eligible age range. I looked for a breakdown on the Pfizer vaccine trials but could not find a breakdown by age.

It was a cross section of age groups. They did have to focus on getting more 65+ people in the trials when they were enrolling people to ensure it would be safe for them, but there were people from all age demographics. The heart inflammation is very rare, much less common than 1 in 60,000 so it’s not totally surprising that it didn‘t show in the trials.

 

[correcaminos]

I do think a lot of us expected this would become a yearly shot. However, I do agree that the uptake percentage will be lower than for the initial dose(s).

I'm truly unsure at this point. Especially these mRNA shots surprised me. Seeing how long natural immunity so long has me more hopeful too

 

[BrianLo]

I hope your prediction comes true. That way, over time we can get a higher and higher percentage of people protected. With the flu vaccine, does the immunity to the three strains that are in the shot last a few years?

Yes it likely does, but usually by the next season there has been Enough drift that they aren’t conferring as much protection.

Influenza is a bit unique among viruses that it changes quite quickly. Or every season brings a new ‘variant’ as it were - and they often try and sometimes fail to predict which one it will be.

I don’t think COVID-19 is changing as dramatically to actually fully escape vaccine immunity for at least a few years. I could see a targeted variant booster coming down the pipe though.

 

[Incomudro]

Ask the person if he/she has ever had McDonalds.

Yes, I have a hard time grappling with the idea of people who exhibit virtually no concern with what they eat, drink, or smoke who will say they are concerned about what they believe may be in a vaccine.

 

[Figgy1]

This pandemic is virtually over-go enjoy your life and don't live in fear or be influenced by the scare tactics

I hope you don't include the precautions my immunocompromised relatives have gotten from their doctor for us and them to be see each other in that statement

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Ask the person if he/she has ever had McDonalds.

Or worse... ever eaten any items from the toppings bar at Cosmic Rays!!!!

 

[GoofGoof]

Or worse... ever eaten any items from the toppings bar at Cosmic Rays!!!!

I was in pecos bills years ago and saw someone make a full meal of just the toppings bar. It was as impressive as it was disgusting. No clue if that person is vaccinated or not

 

[GoofGoof]

Yes, I have a hard time grappling with the idea of people who exhibit virtually no concern with what they eat, drink, or smoke who will say they are concerned about what they believe may be in a vaccine.

Some of the same crowd who will casually pop a party drug without any consideration are hesitant to take an FDA authorized vaccine because maybe it could have some detrimental impact in a few years

 

[Flugell]

This pandemic is virtually over-go enjoy your life and don't live in fear or be influenced by the scare tactics

Have you looked around the world? This pandemic maybe over in your area but it certainly isn’t over. So although it may be possible for you to enjoy life without being influenced by scare tactics that is patently not the case for large parts of the world. Hopefully as vaccines become more available in other countries then your words will be more true.

 

[DonniePeverley]

Hospitalizations have been creeping up slowly in June but deaths are still pretty flat. If the case spike it going to spike hospitalizations it should start showing up soon.

At what point do you start to worry at the increase of infections though? At the current rate the UK is going we are heading to 60,000 cases a day (i believe this is what was modelled) in two-three weeks time - at a time when we are planning to open up everything left, and stop mask and distancing mandates. I'm sorry but this is insanity to keep that going and going and get such a high infection rate in the population. The UK have also vaccinated more of their population than the USA, so it's a scary prospect this may hit the USA the same way.

The equivalant of 60,000 cases a day in the UK to America population would be like America having 300,000 cases a day !!!!

We've basically done nothing to stop variants either - the original one from the UK and India both came about because of huge uncontrolled increases in the numbers.