Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Giss Neric]

An enclosed space another family was breathing in moments before and it would be safe for another family to jump right in? We can’t even have crowds inside a cavernous theatre or arena... I guess there’s some air flow, but seems risky.

It isn't a gondola but the way they are cleaning the cabins and rotating them/airing them out to dry.

 

[Lilofan]

It’s not a major long term change to have servers at a buffet. There’s some construction and rework they would have to do. The big buffets can change but what may not come back are things like hotel breakfasts that are self serve or food offerings in a lounge. Those could be changed too to pre-packaged items or made to order food.

Eating at Hollywood and Vine buffet, riding Tower Of Terror and RNR, wearing a mask, 100 degrees in Orlando with the humidity, then I might swallow my own vomit since the mask will prevent it from hitting the pavement.

 

[Incomudro]

Perhaps this sparks us to think.... maybe buffets aren't a good idea? I never gave it much thought, but in hindsight having hundreds of people touching that serving spoon before me is kinda gross. Sure, they touched the same lap bar on 7DMT but I washed my hands between riding that and eating. I don't wash my hands after hitting the buffet line.

I know many people, my wife especially - who skeeve buffet's.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Eating at Hollywood and Vine buffet, riding Tower Of Terror and RNR, wearing a mask, 100 degrees in Orlando with the humidity, then I might swallow my own vomit since the mask will prevent it from hitting the pavement.

Thanks a lot for that visual. My coffee here isn’t as good anymore.

 

[jaklgreen]

Cookie-Ann and Stella Lou. Gelatoni is the green cat.

Thank you. I admit it having limited experience with them but know OF them.

 

[jaklgreen]

Perhaps this sparks us to think.... maybe buffets aren't a good idea? I never gave it much thought, but in hindsight having hundreds of people touching that serving spoon before me is kinda gross. Sure, they touched the same lap bar on 7DMT but I washed my hands between riding that and eating. I don't wash my hands after hitting the buffet line.

I think that all restaurants should be like the cruise line and MAKE people wash their hands when they come in. We, as a family, always wash our hands before we eat and are are very healthy lot. Even if we are getting popcorn, we first wash our hands before we eat and then sit and enjoy our popcorn.

 

[wdisney9000]

Fauci says people shouldn't be wearing masks. He adds that it may make people feel safe, but masks aren't providing the protection they think.

It would seem that masks in the parks would offer little more than theater.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

A report from a guy that visited Shanghai with the restrictions. Some good takeaways and a few reasons why some things won’t work, especially shops.
Widely ignored floor markings, packed shops. Oh boy.

My Day at the Shanghai Disneyland Grand Re-Opening

I saw first hand what Shanghai Disneyland has changed in the name of health

medium.com

 

[TeriofTerror]

Fauci says people shouldn't be wearing masks. He adds that it may make people feel safe, but masks aren't providing the protection they think.

It would seem that masks in the parks would offer little more than theater.

I believe that interview was from March 8. Additional data has caused him to reassess his opinion on masks:
"Americans should wear face masks as a way to help stifle the spread of COVID-19, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top doctors leading the public health fight against the coronavirus pandemic — a departure from previous government guidance to only wear a mask if you were caring for someone with the illness or had it yourself."

What Dr. Fauci wants you to know about face masks and staying home as virus spreads

As COVID-19 spreads across the country, there has been some debate over the need for government stay-at-home orders, whether Americans should be wearing masks in public and how the coronavirus spreads. Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health, one the key health officials on...

www.pbs.org

 

[ohioguy]

Fauci says people shouldn't be wearing masks. He adds that it may make people feel safe, but masks aren't providing the protection they think.

It would seem that masks in the parks would offer little more than theater.

This is a recommendation from before the CDC did further study. Fauci, as well as others in the medical community, now stress the importance of masks. Recommendations change based on new evidence. Wear your masks, people!

 

[Incomudro]

Fauci says people shouldn't be wearing masks. He adds that it may make people feel safe, but masks aren't providing the protection they think.

It would seem that masks in the parks would offer little more than theater.

And would be more compromised than in most situations due to the duration they would be worn for, the weather conditions they would be worn in, and the fact that people will be eating and drinking.

 

[Kevin_W]

This is a recommendation from before the CDC did further study. Fauci, as well as others in the medical community, now stress the importance of masks. Recommendations change based on new evidence. Wear your masks, people!

We've talked on this thread about masks being a contentious topic. I think we can lay much of the blame at the feet of videos like this one. Numerous studies have shown that people tend to believe/remember the first thing they hear, and the first thing we heard from the health experts was to not wear a mask.

Ohioguy is right that opinions change, data can cause recommendations to change (or perhaps the original recommendations were made with an eye to preserving what was a scare resource at the time and the full rationalization was not made public). but a lot of people will only remember that first recommendation. Or, if they don't like the second one will use the first as (reasonable, IMO) ammunition.

 

[DCBaker]

Wow. Hamilton heading to Disney+ on July 3rd, 17 months ahead of its original release date!

‘Hamilton’ Course Change: Disney Sets July 3 Streaming Release For $75 Million Lin-Manuel Miranda Musical

'Hamilton' Course Change: Disney Sets July 3 Streaming Release For $75 Million Lin-Manuel Miranda Musical

deadline.com

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Fauci says people shouldn't be wearing masks. He adds that it may make people feel safe, but masks aren't providing the protection they think.

It would seem that masks in the parks would offer little more than theater.

And would be more compromised than in most situations due to the duration they would be worn for, the weather conditions they would be worn in, and the fact that people will be eating and drinking.

Wearing masks is to prevent YOUR germs from infecting other people. They are not very effective at keeping the virus out, but they are very effective at keeping your respiratory droplets IN. If we all assume we are positive for SARS-CoV-2 and we all wear a face covering of some sort, we dramatically reduce the spread rate of the virus.

The Real Reason to Wear a Mask

Much of the confusion around masks stems from the conflation of two very different uses.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[DisneyDebRob]

We've talked on this thread about masks being a contentious topic. I think we can lay much of the blame at the feet of videos like this one. Numerous studies have shown that people tend to believe/remember the first thing they hear, and the first thing we heard from the health experts was to not wear a mask.

Ohioguy is right that opinions change, data can cause recommendations to change (or perhaps the original recommendations were made with an eye to preserving what was a scare resource at the time and the full rationalization was not made public). but a lot of people will only remember that first recommendation. Or, if they don't like the second one will use the first as (reasonable, IMO) ammunition.

Exactly right. The thing with science is that it’s constantly changing as more data is studied. Some believe as you say the first thing they hear.

 

[wdisney9000]

This is a recommendation from before the CDC did further study. Fauci, as well as others in the medical community, now stress the importance of masks. Recommendations change based on new evidence. Wear your masks, people!

Does any of this evidence show that people no longer fidget with the mask and touch it constantly thereby contaminating their hands as he mentions in the interview?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Does any of this evidence show that people no longer fidget with the mask and touch it constantly thereby contaminating their hands as he mentions in the interview?

No it doesn’t. That’s a whole other topic.

 

[GoofGoof]

We've talked on this thread about masks being a contentious topic. I think we can lay much of the blame at the feet of videos like this one. Numerous studies have shown that people tend to believe/remember the first thing they hear, and the first thing we heard from the health experts was to not wear a mask.

Ohioguy is right that opinions change, data can cause recommendations to change (or perhaps the original recommendations were made with an eye to preserving what was a scare resource at the time and the full rationalization was not made public). but a lot of people will only remember that first recommendation. Or, if they don't like the second one will use the first as (reasonable, IMO) ammunition.

People believe what they want to believe and will look for anything to support that. So if Fauci says wear masks in 25 more recent interviews and there’s one from March where he says not to wear them that’s the truth. I don’t think it has anything to do with the order viewed. It’s the classic echo chamber effect.

 

[wdisney9000]

Wearing masks is to prevent YOUR germs from infecting other people. They are not very effective at keeping the virus out, but they are very effective at keeping your respiratory droplets IN. If we all assume we are positive for SARS-CoV-2 and we all wear a face covering of some sort, we dramatically reduce the spread rate of the virus.

The Real Reason to Wear a Mask

Much of the confusion around masks stems from the conflation of two very different uses.

www.theatlantic.com

Would you not expect a medical expert such as Dr Fauci to be completely aware of basic medical knowledge such as droplet prevention (which he mentions in the video)?

Did Fauci go back to school and learn something he didn't know prior to the interview? The science hasn't changed. People have just added the emotional appeal of, "We're all in this together" which is an ideology we should apply to everything, all the time.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

People believe what they want to believe and will look for anything to support that. So if Fauci says wear masks in 25 more recent interviews and there’s one from March where he says not to wear them that’s the truth. I don’t think it has anything to do with the order viewed. It’s the classic echo chamber effect.

Speaking of Fauci.. his talk today with senators is about warning of opening to early.

LIVE: Romney says US coronavirus testing is 'nothing to celebrate'

Anthony Fauci and other public health officials are testifying before a Senate committee on how and when to reopen the economy amid coronavirus.

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