Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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wdwgreek

wdwgreek

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DisneyCane said:
Even if there are 10 times the confirmed cases in Florida, these are not "huge numbers." Florida has a population over 21 million. Even if there are 24,000 cases, that's still only 0.11% of the population. The deaths are infinitesimal in relation to the population.

This focus on "big numbers" is what has caused the panic and extreme reactions. We are having a bad flu season in the USA and 23,000 have died so far and there have been almost 400,000 hospitalizations for the flu and nobody bats an eye.

All of a sudden there are 50,000 confirmed CASES of COVID-19 and the world must stop and save every life possible. Even if there are really 500,000 cases including the mild or asymptomatic, 75% of that number has been hospitalized by the flu.

This is an overreaction driven by the worldwide media supported by health officials going on a power trip.

If this $2 trillion stimulus gets passed and you assume that 70% of the US population would have been infected without these extreme measures and the real mortality rate (taking into account the mild and asymptomatic cases that haven't been being confirmed) is 2.5 times the flu, it works out to approximately $3.5 million per life saved, a majority of which are elderly with limited remaining life span as it is. That's not taking into account the cost of the economic damage. How's that for a big number?

An honest question for people in the UK. Would your health system spend that much to save an 80 year old with another disease like cancer?
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This is nothing like the flu, the comparison to the flu is not appropriate at all. I am not a medical professional, I am an attorney, not an expert by amy means. But here are what the experts are saying. This virus spreads faster then the flux this virus has a higher mortality rate then the flu, this virus has an acute morality rate for folks in at risk categories. The prospective that we should shrug and move on for those too weak to survive is horrid, we live in a society, a civilized society where we need to support each other. 1 death , 1 grandfather dying because someone had to go to the beach that day is one person too many. If you disagree we don't have a difference of fact, we have a difference of morality.
 
EricsBiscuit

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Disney Analyst said:
If anything this shows that our workforce needs to be better setup to work and function remotely. Obviously there are services and areas that cannot, but I’m wondering if this will be the start of freeing up office space by making office workers almost all remote from here on.

The amount of real estate and money spent on having offices... when majority can just do their job from home. It makes no sense.
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Have you worked in an office? It’s totally different than working from home. The culture is completely different.
 
GoofGoof

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Andrew C said:
They also talked about how many states are at a different place on the timeline. Like Washington is about 2 weeks ahead of New York, so you have to deal with that...also talked a lot about dealing with hot spots and really looking at data as it pertains to where the virus is specifically spreading....
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True and that’s why the response is largely coming at the state level instead of federal. There will be hot spots that will need more restrictions longer. What we can’t do is assume only the places infected now will stay that way. Everyone needs to take this seriously. Look no further than FL which had very few cases and was a little too slow to respond and now they shooting up the list.
 
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Tom P. said:
Two reasons:
1. Our laws and constitution are very different than other countries and the federal government has much more limited authority.
2. Trump is already antsy with the measures currently being taken due to their effect on the stock market. He is signaling, pretty strongly, that he wants to go "back to normal" as soon as next week, regardless of the consequences for the virus.
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Trump can tell everyone 'get back to work', but I highly doubt the states will agree... and more importantly business leaders will not blindly follow that recommendation.

At this point any multinational business will closely consider every aspect of exposure and liability before resuming anything resembling normal operations. I can imagine no conceivable timeframe for businesses to allow non-essential travel in the foreseeable future, for instance. That alone severely hampers any attempt of recovery in hospitality and travel markets.
 
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thomas998

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PeoplemoverTTA said:
Not trying to start an argument, but aren't they just sharing the misinformation provided by the Chinese Government, which was all they had to go on at that point?
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That is all they were doing... but they had a duty not to share information unless they felt it was accurate. Taking the word of China on anything related to a crisis they are experiencing is like taking the word of North Korea on how well fed their people are.
 
GoofGoof

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techgeek said:
Trump can tell everyone 'get back to work', but I highly doubt the states will agree... and more importantly business leaders will not blindly follow that recommendation.
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Forget even the states, the people won’t agree. My company closed the office to non-essential personnel days before the federal government changed their tone about the need to do it and almost a week before the state mandated it. If Trump or any governor says tomorrow everything is fine and everything is open how many people are going to jump on a cruise ship or book a vacation or even go to the bar? Outside of a miracle like the virus just going away on its own overnight the economy is no longer being held back by government regulations. It’s being held back by the disease spread itself.
 
Disney Analyst

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EricsBiscuit said:
Have you worked in an office? It’s totally different than working from home. The culture is completely different.
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I currently do. We are all working from home. But it wasn’t setup for someone like me to work remotely easily. So I feel pretty useless. No phone access... can’t access internal files. Basically all I can do is answer emails, side tasks, and testing.
 
UNCgolf

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I currently do. We are all working from home. But it wasn’t setup for someone like me to work remotely easily. So I feel pretty useless. No phone access... can’t access internal files. Basically all I can do is answer emails, side tasks, and testing.
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We've (as in the firm I work for) been fully capable of working remotely for years, and it's what we're all doing for the moment.

It's definitely something every company should have for situations like this, but I have to say, I find it miserable. I prefer to go into the office for 6 or so hours and get most of my work done, then work for a couple of hours at home to finish everything up for the day. Having my work and my home be the same place is demoralizing; I don't understand how so many people love it. My home no longer feels like a refuge from work.
 
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thomas998

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StarBurst said:
nypost.com

Man dies after self-medicating with chloroquine phosphate to treat coronavirus

A man died after ingesting an additive used to clean fish tanks — which included a pharmaceutical drug touted by President Trump and others as a potential coronavirus cure. Within 30 minutes …
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please people,dont do this
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It doesn't even matter if they were taking medical grade chloroquine or this who knows what's in it aquarium cleaner. The wife is lucky she isn't dead as well. The wife claimed they both took a teaspoon full of the stuff.. which is probably around 5 grams... the dosage that a doctor would have prescribed would have been 500mgs twice a day.. So basically they did the same thing as downing half a bottle of pills.

That's what happens when the hysteria takes over. Some people don't think clearly and act out of desperation.
 
Queen of the WDW Scene

Queen of the WDW Scene

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EricsBiscuit said:
Because it’s unconstitutional?
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At this point I dont care if it means there is a 21 day end date.
I'm in WNY where it's pretty much already locked down.
And the national guard is being deployed to help make people cooperate.
I think if there was a clear end instead of it being indefinitely people would be more likely to agree.
 
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