Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[esskay]

What was it?

A video by disney basically saying goodbye for now, but it was so damn upbeat that you could've mistaken it for a celebration. Super inapropriate. I'd hazard a guess that they were getting a lot of negative press over it so destroyed it along with any posts.

They've been out today at springs preventing live streams too.

 

[Notes from Neverland]

What was it?

Cast members saying "see ya real soon" as the parks closed. Not bad in theory, but it also showed the enormous sea of people congregating as characters and the WDW President said goodbye. Probably not a good idea after the CDC advised against 50+ people gathering.

 

[Notes from Neverland]

U.S. advising against groups of 10 or more. That could shutter any construction projects unless everyone is very isolated.

 

[BromBones]

It's going to be fine. The media isn't helping matters by perpetuating the freakout.

 

[The_Jobu]

Video has been removed. Probably a good call since it depicted the mess they allowed to happen last night.

Now I’d really like to know what this was

 

[Andrew C]

U.S. advising against groups of 10 or more. That could shutter any construction projects unless everyone is very isolated.

That is a 15 day guideline. "to slow the spread"

 

[GoofGoof]

No. That’s not what was said!!! They were very clear about that.

It’s a 2 weeks cycle that could remain until August, but not saying that everything should be closed til August.

Yes, Dr Fauci had to jump in and clarify that the July/August statement was how long the virus could be present in the country not the shelter in place timeline. The lockdown is still 2 weeks to be reassessed April 1st. Based on CDC recommendation seems like that is likely to go 8 weeks vs 2 but it really depends how well people follow and how much the spread increases or slows.

 

[LittleBuford]

It's going to be fine. The media isn't helping matters by perpetuating the freakout.

Broadly speaking, how is the media's message any different from what the CDC and now even the White House are saying?

 

[Andrew C]

 

[Rich Brownn]

You can just go across the river to Canada.

Not anymore....

 

[Phil12]

I'm practicing social distancing:

 

[Joesixtoe]

People can be very afraid of change. That's ok too. I'm afraid of this, but more so because of the economic issues it's presenting on us. We have to adhere to caution, but at the same time not panic. This is a harsher case of the flu. The flu kills people every year, but we go on. Let's slow down the transmission rate, so we can properly help those in need, but don't stock pile toilet paper!!

 

[Josh Hendy]

Why do you say that?

Canada closed its borders to non-citizens.

 

[TrojanUSC]

It was an astonishingly bad business decision to allow the parades and fireworks to continue through last night.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

While I understand her point, ANY day prior to closure there is going to be a huge crowd.

Disney should have closed effective immediately. Tough vacation ending, but there's an extremely high chance we got a good amount of infections yesterday.

 

[RobWDW1971]

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Disney should have closed effective immediately. Tough vacation ending, but there's an extremely high chance we got a good amount of infections yesterday.

Remember this sentence when they announce their openings. The day they closed, Florida only had 152 active cases in the entire state. Do you believe magically (word choice intentional) the virus will be completely gone, there will be less than 152 active cases, and there will be no more infections and death after they rationalize opening? Of course not, we will just hear some equally nonsensical "the worst is behind us", "the curve has been flattened", etc. and then everyone will move on with life. The fact they even said they would open April 1st shows they are not really serious. Oh, and BTW on Sunday, Space Mountain had a two hour line so the guests don't seem to care.

 

[DisneyJayL]

We are having to cut our trip one day short more than likely. What a bummer. This was turning out to be the best ever. Still was about to go to all parks twice. It’s just a sad state of things even though I’m sitting right here in Disney Springs and it’s business as usual

 

[JenniferS]

You can just go across the river to Canada.

Yeah, don’t bother. Hubby just sent me this earlier:

 

[Disneyson]

I agree. The doctors will only be criticized for underselling the severity of the situation. And with the dearth of information (we have some data but little information), nobody is willing to give a well reasoned forecast. That's why you see these models with 100% infection rates - which feeds the hysteria.

I haven't seen any rational information that fully supports the draconian decisions that are being forced on everyone. This has moved to an emotional response and the public shaming of anyone who doesn't fall in line is fully in force.

I still go back to ground zero - Wuhan. The coronavirus was uncontained for more than a month in Wuhan. Yes there were curfews and armed guards that would not let anyone leave the city but that wasn't until after the death rate became high. Since everyone is quoting an exponential infection rate, Wuhan should be a wasteland. Wuhan has a population of 11 million yet all of China only has ~80,000 reported cases. If all of the cases were in Wuhan that translates into 0.7% infection rate. That means to me that either the infection rate is much lower than what is being discussed OR (quite possibly AND) the severity % is much lower. Implicitly people are thinking that there is both a high infection rate and high severity rate. Of course I'm making a lot of assumptions but, IMO, the numbers in Wuhan just don't match the doomsday scenarios being discussed.

To be absolutely fair, China has changed the criteria for being tested three times transparently. The numbers are a little skewed because of this. It’s also worth noting that people mught have died of a heart attack or other illnesses due to a compromised immune system. I’m not sure if they’d classify that death a disease-related death on paper, though, it’s hard to say.

Even if the data isn’t obfuscated at all, I think people will feel differently when the disease begins to touch their loved ones.

 

[DCBaker]

Canada closed its borders to non-citizens.

US citizens are currently exempt.