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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

hopemax

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My little scorecard I’m keeping of friends and family.. seems Moderna is in the lead by a big margin with the side effects. No data here but just asking people but it’s like 19 Pfizer shots, 2 side effects.. and Moderna 13 shots with 9 side effects. Not peer reviewed so it means nothing.🙂 Hopefully you will be feeling much better later today and tomorrow.
I’ve had 3 Moderna shots, and only had injection site pain with all 3. I’m beginning to feel left out. :)
 

DisneyCane

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And here’s is a great example of why it’s so hard to be healthy in the US: an aversion to having regular yearly physicals.
In my case since my wife is a doctor she has always kept an eye on my health. She told me I was at the age where getting regular lab work is getting important so that's why I started going to a primary care doc.
 

DisneyCane

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Me:
Pfizer dose 1 sore arm after maybe 4 hours gone within 48
Pfizer dose 2 sore arm within an hour. Felt warm but no fever registered for an hour or so. Gone in 48 hours
Pfizer dose 3 same as dose 1 though a bit less painful. I was 10 months post 2nd dose when I got it almost to the day, so longer than many.

Spouse:
Moderna. All 3 sore arm maybe 1.5 out of 10 for a day. 7 months post 2nd dose for booster (edit: half dose)

13 yo:
Pfizer Dose 1: nothing outside of super mild arm pain only when touched.
Pfizer Dose 2: same pain level mild brain fog next morning (no 3rd dose at this time for that age)

As a whole my family (siblings, dad and inlaws) had mild reactions. I'm honestly curious what causes it worse for some than others.
Me and my wife both had Moderna.

Me:
Dose 1 slightly sore arm for a day or so
Dose 2 moderately sore arm, low grade fever, completely exhausted for a few hours probably 8 hours in, lots of joint aches. Gone in 48.
Dose 3 slightly sore arm and some very minor joint aches, nothing close to dose 2

Wife:
Dose 1 moderately sore arm (she gets sore arms from the flu shot also about the same severity)
Dose 2 wiped out exhausted for a few hours about 8 hours post shot, could barely stay awake, then bad chills, couldn't get warm and couldn't really sleep most of the night
Dose 3 moderate to severe sore arm, not much else

She was a little over 10 months post dose 2 and I was a little over 7 so that doesn't seem to have anything to do with it. If more boosters are required I can definitely handle this level of side effect and keep going back. If it was like dose 2 again, it would have taken a lot of motivation.
 

carolina_yankee

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Anecdotal, non-peer-reviewed from my primary doc's assessment of his patents (and his own experience): Getting a Moderna vaccine is like getting hit by a Mac truck. But the stats show it's worth it!

#1 was no problem. #2 had both my husband and I out a day. #3 Had me out two days, and my husband out four. The pets were happy with the presence.
 

carolina_yankee

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Something I learned yesterday planning a trip to France - you can purchase an at-home antigen test that can be proctored virtually and counts for US entry. Only available to US addresses and must be purchased before leaving the country. Download an app and take 15-30 minutes to do the virtual test and get certified results. The only issues is making sure you have some time on your last day of travel as well as a WIFI connection.

It's the same Abbot test as Binax-Now but it has to be specifically purchased for "at-home" rather than "self-testing." Here's a link.


Delta, United, and American also partner with them, but seem to have higher prices per test (but the ability to buy fewer tests). Currently, tests expire in late winter or early spring, but I'm sure the authorizations will be extended (or the ability to buy new tests).

I agree 24 hours is a very tight turnaround, but it is possible. France appears to have 48 hours (from time of flight), so now it's a waiting game to see if this at-home version will work for the French as it does for the US.

For anyone originating outside of the US, check with your airlines - they will likely have testing information and links to where to get tested that satisfies the requirements.
 

MisterPenguin

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Actually, there are.
There's a Doctor that I watch on YouTube, Dr. John Cambell out of the UK.
The essence of his channel is mostly the reading of studies, and explaining how they were done and what the results were, and if they are of merit.
He's a very measured, and non sensationalistic man, and it's a very good channel.
He read a study where vitamin D showed good results.
Here's a similar channel that doesn't take just one study to heart. When there are a lot of studies and someone picks just one and ignores the rest... that could be a sign of cherry-picking the result one wants...







 

DisneyDebRob

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Ugly isn’t it?
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Nubs70

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Something I learned yesterday planning a trip to France - you can purchase an at-home antigen test that can be proctored virtually and counts for US entry. Only available to US addresses and must be purchased before leaving the country. Download an app and take 15-30 minutes to do the virtual test and get certified results. The only issues is making sure you have some time on your last day of travel as well as a WIFI connection.

It's the same Abbot test as Binax-Now but it has to be specifically purchased for "at-home" rather than "self-testing." Here's a link.


Delta, United, and American also partner with them, but seem to have higher prices per test (but the ability to buy fewer tests). Currently, tests expire in late winter or early spring, but I'm sure the authorizations will be extended (or the ability to buy new tests).

I agree 24 hours is a very tight turnaround, but it is possible. France appears to have 48 hours (from time of flight), so now it's a waiting game to see if this at-home version will work for the French as it does for the US.

For anyone originating outside of the US, check with your airlines - they will likely have testing information and links to where to get tested that satisfies the requirements.
My all inclusive in Akumal did on site tests, albeit within the 72 hour window prior to departure. Results back within 30 minutes.

An all inclusive that it set up for existing testing should not be a problem.
 

Benjamin_Nicholas

Premium Member
Vitamin D is supposed to be helpful. I've been taking it for years and have not had a cold since I started taking it.

As is zinc, but bottom line, Emergen-C was successfully sued for false claims and had to revise their packaging.

Endpoint: They overpromised what their powder could do.

Take whatever vitamins you want, but don't think any of them are a silver bullet.
 

Incomudro

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A significant basis of health problems in the US (and much of the developed world) today isn't malnutrition, it's the consequences of over-nutrition. True dietary deficiencies, with the exception of some diseases or treatments that cause that malabsorption, are so rare in the US that the only time I've seen cases in my career was on deployment to Afghanistan.

Our problem is that we consume too much, not because we lack some vital ingredients in our diets.
We consume too much much of the wrong things.
We're over nourished calorically.
I would almost guarantee you that if you analysed the intake of the average American over a 24 hour period, they are not even getting the RDA of key nutrients.
Probably too much of some, and almost none of others.
Most are certainly low in phytochemicals.
 

Incomudro

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I’ve had 3 Moderna shots, and only had injection site pain with all 3. I’m beginning to feel left out. :)
Just got my Moderna booster yesterday, and I've been dragging all day.
I woke up my regular time, had breakfast - and got out and dropped a gift off for my wife at the yoga studio she goes to.
When I got home, I needed to take a nap.
The soreness in my arm was the strongest I've ever had from a shot.
 

JoeCamel

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Just got my Moderna booster yesterday, and I've been dragging all day.
I woke up my regular time, had breakfast - and got out and dropped a gift off for my wife at the yoga studio she goes to.
When I got home, I needed to take a nap.
The soreness in my arm was the strongest I've ever had from a shot.
Sounds like it is working
 

Heppenheimer

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We consume too much much of the wrong things.
We're over nourished calorically.
I would almost guarantee you that if you analysed the intake of the average American over a 24 hour period, they are not even getting the RDA of key nutrients.
Probably too much of some, and almost none of others.
Most are certainly low in phytochemicals.
Deficits in vitamins, certain amino acids and other nutrients cause well-established and specific clinical syndromes. These were/are common in pre-industrial societies where most people only had/have access to specific foods at different times of the year, or not at all. If you're not deficient in those nutrients, you don't develop the related syndromes. With some exceptions related to other medical conditions, we simply don't see those syndromes today in the developed world.
 

Disney Experience

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A significant basis of health problems in the US (and much of the developed world) today isn't malnutrition, it's the consequences of over-nutrition. True dietary deficiencies, with the exception of some diseases or treatments that cause that malabsorption, are so rare in the US that the only time I've seen cases in my career was on deployment to Afghanistan.

Our problem is that we consume too much, not because we lack some vital ingredients in our diets.
There is an interesting set of books on modern food, taste, nutrition, omnivore physiology, and the various research into a very complicated system called the human body. Written for the layman, but really good data ( my relative who is a neurologist ( and owns a firm with physcians ) bought the first audiobook on audible the minute I gave him a few outtakes from it.

The first ( Well he does have an earlier book, but never read so cannot comment on it) book/audiobook:

The second:

The second book at one point pulls in university research on fattening pigs through a cocktail of B vitamins; the enrichment of flour in this country (but not in italy), and the effect of B vitamins on weight gain in humans. As well as the confounding of omnivore physiology with modern changes in food. Vitamins are chemicals that are needed and can be obtained various ways, but as with all things there can be too much of a good thing.
 
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