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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Heppenheimer

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Anyone who is passing out is doing so from the needle or act of injection, not from anything particular in the COVID vaccines. The thing that they're monitoring for is severe allergic reaction.
And that usually happens immediately once people see the needle go into their arm. If they don't pass out right then and there, it probably won't happen at all.

You are correct, passing out is not a sign of an allergic reaction. Or at least, not the initial sign.
 

mmascari

Well-Known Member
Anyone who is passing out is doing so from the needle or act of injection, not from anything particular in the COVID vaccines. The thing that they're monitoring for is severe allergic reaction.

And that usually happens immediately once people see the needle go into their arm. If they don't pass out right then and there, it probably won't happen at all.

You are correct, passing out is not a sign of an allergic reaction. Or at least, not the initial sign.
I like to sit down, turn stark white as the blood drains out of my face, and develop a cold sweat. It's not as dramatic as completely passing out.

Was fine with the COVID shots. It's probably just a blood draw that really gets me. 😨
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
I like to sit down, turn stark white as the blood drains out of my face, and develop a cold sweat. It's not as dramatic as completely passing out.

Was fine with the COVID shots. It's probably just a blood draw that really gets me. 😨
I don't get that way unless they go fishing for a vein. Most that draw blood for a living are pros and it is nothing but for a CAT scan or something like a colonoscopy the techs don't seem to be able to hit squat. Twice I had them stick me five times looking for oil and came up dry until someone with experience cleaned up their mess.
 

Danissmart

Member
And that usually happens immediately once people see the needle go into their arm. If they don't pass out right then and there, it probably won't happen at all.

You are correct, passing out is not a sign of an allergic reaction. Or at least, not the initial sign.
I passed out about 10 minutes after my initial injection.
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
Eh, people receiving the same brand booster don't have to hang around the 15 minutes afterwards. There is limited waiting areas where available. i.e. go stand in this corner for 15 minutes. The local hospital is vaccinating 5-11yos only.
It appears that waiting is up to however is administering the shot - even in the same location. My husband and I both got our boosters at the same location. He was told to wait 15 minutes, I was handed back my shot card and told I was good to go. He got Moderna, I got Pfizer.

So it may be dependent on brand, location, or whoever is administering the shot - especially if they had someone with a bad reaction in the past! But there is no reason to argue about it.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
It appears that waiting is up to however is administering the shot - even in the same location. My husband and I both got our boosters at the same location. He was told to wait 15 minutes, I was handed back my shot card and told I was good to go. He got Moderna, I got Pfizer.

So it may be dependent on brand, location, or whoever is administering the shot - especially if they had someone with a bad reaction in the past! But there is no reason to argue about it.
We can argue about if we should be arguing about it. At least it would be a new argument! :)
 

GimpYancIent

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It is interesting how the WHO and South African medical authorities present the South African variant, not exactly in the same way. "The new Omicron variant of the coronavirus results in mild disease, without prominent syndromes, Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association, told Sputnik on Saturday.

The World Health Organization (WHO) identified on Friday the new South African strain as one of concern, as it is reported to carry a high number of mutations- 32- which possibly makes it more transmissible and dangerous.

The WHO has dubbed it Omicron, the 15th letter of the Greek alphabet. "It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home," Coetzee said.

The official noted that hospitals have not been overburdened by Omicron patients and that the new strain is not been detected in vaccinated persons."
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
It is interesting how the WHO and South African medical authorities present the South African variant, not exactly in the same way. "The new Omicron variant of the coronavirus results in mild disease, without prominent syndromes, Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association, told Sputnik on Saturday.

The World Health Organization (WHO) identified on Friday the new South African strain as one of concern, as it is reported to carry a high number of mutations- 32- which possibly makes it more transmissible and dangerous.

The WHO has dubbed it Omicron, the 15th letter of the Greek alphabet. "It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home," Coetzee said.

The official noted that hospitals have not been overburdened by Omicron patients and that the new strain is not been detected in vaccinated persons."
The WHO probably wants more information from a variety of sources before making statements more specific than "concerning". The behavior of a variant may not always be the same in every region, when you consider different patient populations, different societal habits, different communal responses, different baseline vaccination status, different testing regimens, different weather, etc.
 

Kevin_W

Well-Known Member
The WHO probably wants more information from a variety of sources before making statements more specific than "concerning". The behavior of a variant may not always be the same in every region, when you consider different patient populations, different societal habits, different communal responses, different baseline vaccination status, different testing regimens, different weather, etc.

Yes, I heard an interview with a WHO doc on the radio driving into work this morning and she was pretty straightforward with a bunch of "we don't know yet" statements.
 

mkt

Disney's Favorite Scumbag
Premium Member
Florida Case numbers for last week haven't been reported yet because of Thanksgiving, (will be release tomorrow evening) But hospitalization numbers still have been.

Today Florida Covid Hospitaliztion is at 1228 (or 2.29% of beds), which is a new all time low since April 2020 (when HHS started its reports). It was at 1351 a week ago (2.36%). so the gradual Covid hospitalization decrease is still going on in Florida.

Let's see what they look like in 2-3 weeks.
 

James J

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No


Boosters for all over 18's, 3 months after their second dose is the new advice for the UK. 4th doses for immunocompromised people was mentioned too.
 

Chip Chipperson

Well-Known Member
If the pharmacist says you don't have yo stick around? My instance: pharmacist specifically said if I would have had the same manufacturer I wouldn't have had to wait the 15 minutes. So if someone is told they can leave immediately that is not disregard.

I didn't have to wait around after my booster, either. However, my mother did and she got 3 doses of Moderna just like I did. The only difference is that my 3rd was at a local pharmacy and hers was from the County Health Department vaccination site where we both received our first 2 doses. My wife and I went for our boosters at the same time. The pharmacist knows us and works with my mother-in-law. When he finished with the jabs he told us we were free to leave. We said, "We don't have to wait 15 minutes?" He said, "Nope, you're good. You didn't have a reaction to the first 2 doses."
 

Bob Harlem

Well-Known Member
Let's see what they look like in 2-3 weeks.
3 weeks ago it was at 1577 (2.8%) Rate of drop has actually increased this past week. See https://epi.ufl.edu/covid-19-resour...year-projections-for-covid-19-in-florida.html for some projections (which have still remained very accurate), there's nothing indicating the 7 day avg hospitalization is going back up other than speculation (day to day numbers depends on discharge policy). Hospitalization is probably the most reliable form of severity measurement considering reporting delays elsewhere (especially deaths, but cases also).

If you curious about South Africa, https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/ has most of the info for there. (Cases up, low severity)
 
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mmascari

Well-Known Member
Yes, I heard an interview with a WHO doc on the radio driving into work this morning and she was pretty straightforward with a bunch of "we don't know yet" statements.
But I want answers now! 😭

Then, I want to latch onto those answers in the future forever more as being the one and only answer. 🤔

Off to read up on tips for getting on ROTR from December 2019, I'm sure that information is still correct...
 

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