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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Wendy Pleakley

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I guess you can not explain why it is okay to not wear the mask indoors for most of the time while in crowded restaurant.

It's not that complicated.

Wear a mask as much as possible especially when distancing isn't possible.

No one is arguing that masks can be used 100% of the time. It's about minimizing risk, not eliminating it completely.

Are crowded restaurants a thing? Every restaurant I still go to has reduced seating and/or plexiglass between tables. Plus vaccine check at the door.
 

SSH

Well-Known Member
Are crowded restaurants a thing? Every restaurant I still go to has reduced seating and/or plexiglass between tables. Plus vaccine check at the door.
In Florida, yes. Big time. Every restaurant I've passed or go to is almost always jam packed with long waits for tables. The waiting areas where people congregate are packed and many don't wear masks. Few places here require it anymore. And it's illegal to ask anyone if they're vaccinated.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
In Florida, yes. Big time. Every restaurant I've passed or go to is almost always jam packed with long waits for tables. The waiting areas where people congregate are packed and many don't wear masks. Few places here require it anymore. And it's illegal to ask anyone if they're vaccinated.
It’s technically not illegal to ask for vaccine status, a business just cannot deny access based solely on it. An easy work around which is still legal would be to require a negative Covid test to enter the restaurant and then allow an exception if you show proof of vaccination. That would not violate the FL law since an unvaccinated person is not being denied access. Disney could implement that as their plan if they wanted and it would be perfectly legal.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
A unique part about eating at Sci Fi Drive In at DHS while eating and staring at the big screen watching those corny B&W movies is all guests are facing forward.
We ate at Sci-Fi while we were there and since we had 8 people we got one of those larger cars towards the back. There wasn‘t another table within 10 feet of us. Pretty well spaced naturally. The only thing close together were the stand alone tables in the very back that weren’t actual cars. They have a few of those but they were empty while we were there so maybe not using them.
 

SSH

Well-Known Member
It’s technically not illegal to ask for vaccine status, a business just cannot deny access based solely on it. An easy work around which is still legal would be to require a negative Covid test to enter the restaurant and then allow an exception if you show proof of vaccination. That would not violate the FL law since an unvaccinated person is not being denied access. Disney could implement that as their plan if they wanted and it would be perfectly legal.
sure wish restaurants and other businesses in FL would do this. But doubt it'll ever happen. Every business is scared of anti-vaxxers more than they care about patron safety. Or that's the way it seems to me anyway, as no one requires masks, test results, etc.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Hope they cover Bactrim. Bet they don't.

Wait, is this the latest miracle cure?

Its an antibiotic, used all the time. Probably has been thrown at people randomly all throughout the pandemic.

Comments like this honestly might as well say ‘I hope they talk about Tylenol, but I bet they won’t’.

The actual drugs to watch are the new antivirals. Those could move the treatment needle.
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
sure wish restaurants and other businesses in FL would do this. But doubt it'll ever happen. Every business is scared of anti-vaxxers more than they care about patron safety. Or that's the way it seems to me anyway, as no one requires masks, test results, etc.
If every business was scared of any vaxxers, why would they NOT require a mask indoor just as Disney does?
 
It's not that complicated.

Wear a mask as much as possible especially when distancing isn't possible.

No one is arguing that masks can be used 100% of the time. It's about minimizing risk, not eliminating it completely.

Are crowded restaurants a thing? Every restaurant I still go to has reduced seating and/or plexiglass between tables. Plus vaccine check at the door.
Talking about WDW restaurants
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
Wait, is this the latest miracle cure?

Its an antibiotic, used all the time. Probably has been thrown at people randomly all throughout the pandemic.

Comments like this honestly might as well say ‘I hope they talk about Tylenol, but I bet they won’t’.

The actual drugs to watch are the new antivirals. Those could move the treatment needle.
I haven't dove into it completely, but apparently there was a disagreement between Dr. Faucci and ACT-UP on the use of bactrim as a prophylactic against Pneumocystis pneumonia in HIV+ patients back relatively early in the AIDS epidemic (long before effective antiviral treatments existed). The brief info I skimmed mentioned that ACT-UP wanted all HIV patients to receive bactrim prophylaxis if there was a localized Pneumocystis outbreak near where they lived, whereas Faucci thought it should be reserved for those who met more strict criteria. I don't know what exactly Faucci advocated at the time, but the current guidelines for prophylaxis mostly restrict prophylaxis to patient's whose CD4 counts fall below certain thresholds. So, today's guidelines probably fall more along the lines of what Faucci recommended than what ACT-UP wanted.

And yes, certain trolls continue to troll. We should stop feeding them.
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
It's not that complicated.

Wear a mask as much as possible especially when distancing isn't possible.

No one is arguing that masks can be used 100% of the time. It's about minimizing risk, not eliminating it completely.

Are crowded restaurants a thing? Every restaurant I still go to has reduced seating and/or plexiglass between tables. Plus vaccine check at the door.
Voila. Perfect should not be the enemy of good.
 

DisneyDebRob

Well-Known Member
A very positive article in NY Times!

"The share of Americans 12 and over who have received at least one vaccine shot has reached 76 percent, and the growing number of vaccine mandates — along with the likely authorization of the Pfizer vaccine for children ages 5 to 11 — will increase the number of vaccinations this fall. Almost as important, something like one-half of Americans have probably had the Covid virus already, giving them some natural immunity."
Who would have thought that maybe mandates might work. Let’s bring in passports and really get this vaccine kicking.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
We ate at Sci-Fi while we were there and since we had 8 people we got one of those larger cars towards the back. There wasn‘t another table within 10 feet of us. Pretty well spaced naturally. The only thing close together were the stand alone tables in the very back that weren’t actual cars. They have a few of those but they were empty while we were there so maybe not using them.
A tidbit on DHS Sci Fi is the license plates of each of those drive in cars in the theatre are the initials of the WDI cast that brought Sci Fi to life at DHS.
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
Who would have thought that maybe mandates might work. Let’s bring in passports and really get this vaccine kicking.
Paywall, so I can't read it. But I hope the main reason is because the virus has hit a vaccinated wall and starting to run out of susceptible hosts. Otherwise, if this is just one of those temporary ebbs, I fear certain people will declare premature victory yet again, and we'll start seeing hospitalizations rise as soon as we start celebrating. We're probably still at least a month or two away from Merck's oral medication receiving EUA, so these next couple of months will be crucial if we really are going to start seeing the end of this.
 

aliceismad

Well-Known Member
Are crowded restaurants a thing? Every restaurant I still go to has reduced seating and/or plexiglass between tables. Plus vaccine check at the door.
Where I live, yes. Most restaurants are crowded. Distancing is a thing of the past. Hence why we almost always get take out. I'm glad people have jobs and happy to support good places to eat, but it's much too people-y out there for me sometimes.
 

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