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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Patcheslee

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Well that didn't take long. The media sucks for repeating stuff that places unnecessary doubt.

Ewwwww... yeah and people wonder why I find them a little gross? Blech...
Yeah, I was immediately on the "sanitize, scan, sanitize again". Kids put their hands everywhere.
On a funny side note DD12 got flagged flying out of MCO for the GSR screening in June. I told her it was a germ check to make sure she had washed her hands well in the bathroom . TSA lady just agreed with me and told her good job 😁
 

Heppenheimer

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That’s the problem in a nutshell. The FDA.. the CDC.. hundreds of medical institutions like the Mayo Clinic , to sites like sciencemag, nature, healthline and thousands of peer reviewed studies from across the globe are all in agreement of mask wearing works. Along with other mitigation it works even better.
The people who believe the government is out to get them or have far wing beliefs in the political area will find the 49 studies that you mention as proof that it doesn’t work. You can find studies and data from people still saying the world is flat.. there’s yetis roaming around us and ghosts and spirits are living next to us. But they aren’t peer reviewed.. they aren’t from science outlets.. but you can find them. Says a lot I think of the intelligence of a person who doesn’t look deeper and find the reputable places that are in our best interests.
More than likely, they won't actually read the study, they'll just go with a one-line summary cherry-picked out of context that kind of jives with what they want to believe anyway. Or, they'll repost a tweet, and call that a "study".

BTW, this is just a general statement based on reading some of the back and forth here lately. A properly conducted study will never state if something "works" or doesn't. Rather, it will have a more precisely defined endpoint that can be measured. So, something like saying "Masks don't work" is irrelevant without knowing the endpoint and the methods.

Do properly worn masks reduce transmission of COVID-19 and provide a level protection for the wearer under most circumstances? Yes, absolutely, the data and real-world experience is pretty overwhelming. Is it perfect? No, of course not, but as stated again and again, good should not be the enemy of perfect. And in a pandemic, when we're battling one of the most contagious pathogens we've ever seen, doing something relatively easy like wearing a mask should be expected. None of this "freedom" nonsense for something that imposes very little burden (try wearing a MOPP suit in the desert if you find masks uncomfortable).
 

sullyinMT

Well-Known Member
Waiting for new excuses from the “It’s not *fully* approved” crowd.
My wife was already hit with - “watch behind the curtain with all this Afghanistan mess going on.” I swear some people are just so stupid or dug in that they’ll just find anything to weave into their little web of personal deception. It’s ok to say “I was wrong,” or “I learned something new today,” and move forward
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sullyinMT

Well-Known Member
[…], doing something relatively easy like wearing a mask should be expected. None of this "freedom" nonsense for something that imposes very little burden (try wearing a MOPP suit in the desert if you find masks uncomfortable).
Of course, ECMO is used in the extreme. But enjoy this if you find a piece of cloth uncomfortable:
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Not to mention the complement activation of a massive foreign body that is an ELSO circuit, to call back your excellent lesson from before.
 

Lilofan

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Willmark

Well-Known Member
My guess is they are part of the same group...
We’ll see.

Vaccine passports are going live soon in some cities/areas? If not all then various locales. It will definitely be interesting to see just who is getting refused at various locations and complaining about it in social media based on not being vaccinated.

Point being it could very well be the “Neanderthals” who are refusing to get vaccinated. I’m also thinking it is going to be plenty of other folks across all strata of society.
 
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networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
The US military is getting onboard with covid vaccines following the FDA approval of the Pfizer covid vaccine. It is now mandatory for all US military to get vaccinated for covid according to press secretary Kirby.

Please leave the military out of any such discussions. They don't operate under the same laws as the civilian sector. In many cases, vaccines that never received FDA approval have been mandatory just as a precautionary measure prior to deployment.
 

mmascari

Well-Known Member
Which food borne illness that can be caused by poorly prepared beef is then easily transmitted person to person?
In the unlucky scenario where a parasite that survives the lower temperature cooking is being transmitted to a second person, there's additional more critical sanitary issues occurring. 🤢

Should probably avoid steaks on Wednesdays (and maybe Thursday too for some). ⬆️
 

willtravel

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Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
Please leave the military out of any such discussions. They don't operate under the same laws as the civilian sector. In many cases, vaccines that never received FDA approval have been mandatory just as a precautionary measure prior to deployment.
I looked really quickly at my vaccination record to see what atypical vaccines I may have received while I was in the military: anthrax, smallpox, typhoid and yellow fever. All have full FDA approval (or had, the legal status of the smallpox vaccine at the time I received it was a little murky, since it came from a national strategic stockpile, not the usual industry sources).
 

DisneyFan32

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes

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