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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Tink242424

Well-Known Member
The vast majority of business interruption insurance does not cover COVID, a pandemic, or any other broad based interruption. The few insurance companies who didn't have specific language in their policies before do now, and they're all fighting claims based on the general language they previously had. Insurance is not covering profits, costs or anything else for shutdowns that are the result of COVID restrictions.


The "safe and effective" description is definitely doing a lot of work in the survey. It shouldn't really have to, but in the current state we've broken the CDC and are trying not to break the FDA too. Neither organization is supposed to be political is the point. With both of them suffering from more direct political message shaping and pressure to make decisions for political reasons.

That's the trust that needs to be there. If a vaccine was released tomorrow, the very first question will be "Can I trust the organization that approved it? Is the approval because the normal process has proven out that it's safer than the alternative or was it approved because of political messaging independent from the analysis?"

We can go back through the pages of this thread to see how the CDC has been broken with it's messaging and loss of trust. Let's hope we don't break the FDA too.
The FDA is already broken and has been for a long time. It is filled with people that are human, just like the CDC, and these humans have many biases and political or pharm ties. Now, that doesn't mean that they are a terrible organization but there are flaws and there have been for many years. Just take the revolving door of people who work in pharma and go to the FDA and then back to pharma.


With all that being said, overall the FDA does get a lot right but as US citizens we should demand better. Even peer-reviewed research isn't without its challenges.


With all that being said this is why it is important for any public health information being given by the CDC and any vaccine approvals by the FDA to come with clear and concise messaging that is consistent.
 

rowrbazzle

Well-Known Member
Didn't see that coming /s
Congratulations?

As it says in the article, this seems to be based on an agreement with the teachers' union and he'd already been sued for not doing it sooner. I'd want to see evidence of a sizable number of cases in the schools along with in-school transmission before shutting it down.
 

oceanbreeze77

Well-Known Member
Congratulations?

As it says in the article, this seems to be based on an agreement with the teachers' union and he'd already been sued for not doing it sooner. I'd want to see evidence of a sizable number of cases in the schools along with in-school transmission before shutting it down.
School spread is happening. The school tracing hasn't been widespread so the false idea of schools being safe is being pushed.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
"Florida’s health department on Wednesday missed its target of releasing fresh data on the coronavirus pandemic by 11 a.m., which it aims to do every day. As of 4 p.m., the state statistics on COVID-19 cases, deaths and testing for the day still were not publicly available."

"The South Florida Sun Sentinel reached out to the state Department of Health but has not yet heard back with an answer about today’s situation."

 

oceanbreeze77

Well-Known Member
"Florida’s health department on Wednesday missed its target of releasing fresh data on the coronavirus pandemic by 11 a.m., which it aims to do every day. As of 4 p.m., the state statistics on COVID-19 cases, deaths and testing for the day still were not publicly available."

"The South Florida Sun Sentinel reached out to the state Department of Health but has not yet heard back with an answer about today’s situation."

I wonder if its bad
 

Mark52479

Well-Known Member
I wonder if its bad
It has to do with this why no numbers today.

It seems like a big dump of deaths for Palm Beach County.

 

DMMDMM

New Member
Here this is a great Covid website. Very accurate. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/d2726d6c01c4486181fec2d4373b01fa

I have been to Epcot 3 times since it opened. It is safe, people wear the freaking masks and if you don't, some random Disney cast member tells you to put it on. You get temp checks at the front gates.

You have to be comfortable with the decision you make. If a number on a chart is going to prevent you from going to the parks, then stay home.

If you look at the charts in the website attached the numbers have NOT been increasing, they have been steady for a few months now. But don't take my word, or a websites word, or some random poster here in these 2100 pages. If you feel it is not safe stay home. If you feel comfortable then join me for a Dole Whip watching people get soaked by the camels.
I follow that site which is linked to the official Florida state government site. See link below. As well as John Hopkins and Bing and worldometers. website.https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

If you notice, the Florida site has not been updated for today still has 760,389 which is yesterday’s numbers.. The site was down about an hour this afternoon and came back with yesterday’s numbers. The numbers in Florida have been creeping up for 3 weeks day over day, meaning compare Monday to last Monday and the Monday before. Tuesday to last Tuesday to the Tuesday before. For example October 5,12,19 Write the numbers down and you will see what I mean. Same across all sites. So they are Increasing. So for me I am more concerned about the long term creep or perhaps surge that not reporting the numbers will leave the public in the dark. I am very aware of how well Disney enforces mask wearing, I follow numerous blogs that have lots of pictures and comments. The news is reporting that Governor DeSantis is considering no longer releasing coronavirus numbers to the public. Since all restrictions have pretty much been lifted in Florida those number will continue to climb. Louisiana, Kansas and New Mexico have totally stopped reporting numbers. Is that Florida’s strategy as well? I do have preexisting conditions that make me more nervous than the average DisneyWorld fan but I am an avid fan that has been to Disney at least 50 times. Still willing to visit because Disney is so strict and Florida had been relatively transparent until now. But I am hopeful that deSantis will reverse course on letting the public know.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
Numbers are out - there were 105 new reported deaths.

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