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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion (Now with optimism!)

drizgirl

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I respect your opinion but as I said, it’s not all about you and me. Many families feel differently. With the low crowds and masking they may have felt it was ok.
If nothing else, life over the past 15 months should have taught people to expect lots of changes. I see your point, but predictability is just not something any of us have been able to plan on for a while. Rolling with the punches is a key part of any Disney trip these days. And likely for a while to come.
 

DisneyDebRob

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If nothing else, life over the past 15 months should have taught people to expect lots of changes. I see your point, but predictability is just not something any of us have been able to plan on for a while. Rolling with the punches is a key part of any Disney trip these days. And likely for a while to come.
Agreed. I just feel bad for the people that can’t get there that quickly is all. I’ve always been one to fight for the underdog I guess.
 

drizgirl

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Agreed. I just feel bad for the people that can’t get there that quickly is all. I’ve always been one to fight for the underdog I guess.
I'm one who can't get there quickly and it's maddening. I figure if I plan something someone will throw a couple dozen road blocks at me before I can even get there. It's disappointing but I had to just bow out and give up. I'm planning on 2022. After getting close to pulling the trigger 3 or 4 times on WDW or DLR. I'm at peace with it now.

My friend did go last week. And she ended up having to drive into Georgia with her 2 daughters just as the gas shortages were taking off.

Right now it just seems there's always something.
 

Flugell

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I'm one who can't get there quickly and it's maddening. I figure if I plan something someone will throw a couple dozen road blocks at me before I can even get there. It's disappointing but I had to just bow out and give up. I'm planning on 2022. After getting close to pulling the trigger 3 or 4 times on WDW or DLR. I'm at peace with it now.

My friend did go last week. And she ended up having to drive into Georgia with her 2 daughters just as the gas shortages were taking off.

Right now it just seems there's always something.
Especially if you’re in the U.K.!
 

ImperfectPixie

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How? If you've been following the rules then you're vaccinated (if possible).
My youngest can't be vaccinated yet. My best friend can't be vaccinated at all, and now she's stuck staying isolated even longer, and she literally hasn't gone anywhere - she's been working from home the entire time...not even 1 trip to the office to pick anything up.

Not to mention the worry about variants (let's be honest - we're giving the virus plenty of opportunity, here).

But YAY! the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers can pretend to be vaccinated!
 

Nickp1983

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My friend did go last week. And she ended up having to drive into Georgia with her 2 daughters just as the gas shortages were taking off.

Right now it just seems there's always something.
Ugh, you had to bring up the gas shortage. Self imposed gas shortage.
I'm not even mad about the shortage. I'm just mad that instead of getting a Mad Max style world with leather clad people in hockey masks and juiced up off roading trucks.... we got idiots putting gas in hefty bags and 30 minute lines.


I'm going to Disney in 10 days and I fully expect an alien invansion to happen in 8. But instead of INDEPENDENCE DAY or ALIENS... we'll get Mac and Me....
 

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drizgirl

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My youngest can't be vaccinated yet. My best friend can't be vaccinated at all, and now she's stuck staying isolated even longer, and she literally hasn't gone anywhere - she's been working from home the entire time...not even 1 trip to the office to pick anything up.

Not to mention the worry about variants (let's be honest - we're giving the virus plenty of opportunity, here).

But YAY! the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers can pretend to be vaccinated!
Well, your friend was staying in anyway, right? So things haven't changed for her.

I hope they can get a vaccine approved quickly for your younger son.

The most curious part is that the party in power is generally seen as more pro-mask, pro-vaccine. I wish someone could make it all make sense for us.
Ugh, you had to bring up the gas shortage. Self imposed gas shortage.
I'm not even mad about the shortage. I'm just mad that instead of getting a Mad Max style world with leather clad people in hockey masks and juiced up off roading trucks.... we got idiots putting gas in hefty bags and 30 minute lines.
I can't even tell you how stressful that mess of a gas shortage was for my friend. So much uncertainty. Stress on top of stress. Then she thought she was good and had trouble finding stations with gas when she got into Tennessee.
 

Nickp1983

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I can't even tell you how stressful that mess of a gas shortage was for my friend. So much uncertainty. Stress on top of stress. Then she thought she was good and had trouble finding stations with gas when she got into Tennessee.
Oh it sucked. I'm in Charlotte NC and we had it bad... if not the worse. Every gas station in 10 miles was bone dry on Tuesday night. All 4 of our cars had less than a 1/8th (STUPID!). We went out Tuesday night to hunt for gas and it was nerve racking. It was our fault for letting the cars get that low but we were stuck. Luckily I found some gas and got my truck up to a 3rd. We are driving to Disney in 10 days so my wife is totally going to have gas buddy up so she can monitor stations unless it gets better.

Pic from Tuesday night.
 

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GoofGoof

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Well, your friend was staying in anyway, right? So things haven't changed for her.

I hope they can get a vaccine approved quickly for your younger son.
They are saying end of Summer for data and possibly September for authorization for 5-11 year olds but it is possible that is accelerated a little considering how well the 12-15 and 12-17 year old trials went for Pfizer and Moderna. I haven’t seen an update recently but both companies are running a phase 1/2 trial that is determining the proper dose for various age kids down to 6 months. Once the dosage is determined then a full phase 3 trial will start with more participants but they will need 2 months of safety data so that means the earliest they could announce results and apply for an amendment to EUA is 2 months after the phase 3 trial shots are administered.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Well, your friend was staying in anyway, right? So things haven't changed for her.

I hope they can get a vaccine approved quickly for your younger son.

The most curious part is that the party in power is generally seen as more pro-mask, pro-vaccine. I wish someone could make it all make sense for us.

I can't even tell you how stressful that mess of a gas shortage was for my friend. So much uncertainty. Stress on top of stress. Then she thought she was good and had trouble finding stations with gas when she got into Tennessee.
It's taking a major mental toll on her. Children aren't the only ones who suffer emotionally from isolation.

EDIT: And yes, this is an unusual call for a generally cautious administration. I'm curious to know what's going on behind the scenes.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I agree with you there. I don't see how this makes more people want to get vaccinated when places are dropping mask mandates
It could work for some. Not everyone who isn’t vaccinated is an anti-mask, anti-vax, Q Anon follower. Some are just people who didn’t get around to it yet for various reasons. This may actually help get some of them motivated to get in. There are people left unvaccinated who want to follow the rules. Not everyone enjoys lying about their vaccination status to go maskless. Some definitely do.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I agree with you there. I don't see how this makes more people want to get vaccinated when places are dropping mask mandates
Before the CDC made this change people were saying there was no reason to get the vaccine because nothing would change and they would still have to wear masks and social distance. I think the CDC saying vaccinated people no longer have to follow mitigation shows they have faith in the effectiveness of the vaccine. I think the presumption is that people will follow the rules.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Before the CDC made this change people were saying there was no reason to get the vaccine because nothing would change and they would still have to wear masks and social distance. I think the CDC saying vaccinated people no longer have to follow mitigation shows they have faith in the effectiveness of the vaccine. I think the presumption is that people will follow the rules.
It would be nice if we could believe people will follow the rules. I have zero faith that a decent chunk of the population will.
 

Nickp1983

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Before the CDC made this change people were saying there was no reason to get the vaccine because nothing would change and they would still have to wear masks and social distance. I think the CDC saying vaccinated people no longer have to follow mitigation shows they have faith in the effectiveness of the vaccine. I think the presumption is that people will follow the rules.
I also think there is an argument there that the people who are not going to follow the rules... already haven't been.
NC had a mask mandate but it wasn't enforced. So I can only speak for my home state when I say that the people I saw not wearing a mask, are probably anti vaxxers... and also drive Tahoes.
 

Jrb1979

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Before the CDC made this change people were saying there was no reason to get the vaccine because nothing would change and they would still have to wear masks and social distance. I think the CDC saying vaccinated people no longer have to follow mitigation shows they have faith in the effectiveness of the vaccine. I think the presumption is that people will follow the rules.
Its not so much the issue with what the CDC said, my issue is more with businesses deciding to completely drop mask mandates for indoors. Cause of that whats the incentive to get vaccinated if I can go about my everyday life like normal? Since Covid my faith in people doing the right thing is low. I foresee the vaccination rate to really start dropping off now.
 

Nickp1983

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Its not so much the issue with what the CDC said, my issue is more with businesses deciding to completely drop mask mandates for indoors. Cause of that whats the incentive to get vaccinated if I can go about my everyday life like normal? Since Covid my faith in people doing the right thing is low. I foresee the vaccination rate to really start dropping off now.
Well, my wife is a Pharmacist and Friday was their busiest day. Not saying that will be the trend, but she said the amount of 12+ year olds was large but also many older people who said they just want this to be over.
 

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