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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion (Now with optimism!)

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
So I've been watching both the vaccine numbers and case numbers in New York, being I live there.

Upstate New York has been mostly slower to vaccinate than downstate. With a couple exceptions including Tompkin's county, home of Cornell University and Ithaca College. This educated community is heavily vaccinated, and students and faculty are regularly tested.


Population of the country is only about 100,000. 71% of adults are vaccinated, about 62% of the total population is at least partially vaccinated.

Yesterday's case numbers from Tompkins county: Population of just 100,000 but did 5,602 tests. Yes, 5% of the county, tested every day. Total positive: 1. (Many other days, they test up to 10,000).
1 out of 100,000 positive.
So with 5,000-10,000 tests per day, over the last week: They have been averaging 7 per day. A positivity rate of about 00.1%.
Most of those cases are asymptomatic.

so basically the vaccines are working??

damn!! Why didn’t anyone go on channel 352 and tell me that?!? 😡
 

havoc315

Well-Known Member
so basically the vaccines are working??

damn!! Why didn’t anyone go on channel 352 and tell me that?!? 😡

New York has made plenty of mistakes, but the wisest thing they have done in Covid is ramping up surveillance testing. Tompkins county is extreme -- testing 5-10% of the population daily. But through the state, even with cases dropping, New York is testing 200,000, 1% of the population, per day.
This helps to identify asymptomatic cases -- contact trace, isolate and prevent further outbreaks.

I'm more concerned about parts of the country that haven't bothered to set up surveillance testing.
 

ImperfectPixie

Well-Known Member
I don’t remember that being said. Not to say it wasn’t because both sides were playing stupid dangerous games. One side was it’s nothing and the other was we are all gonna die and the media ate it up and helped create the line of belief
India is proof that those saying it was going to be bad were right. We're fortunate in America in that state leaders did what was necessary to prevent that.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I don’t remember that being said. Not to say it wasn’t because both sides were playing stupid dangerous games. One side was it’s nothing and the other was we are all gonna die and the media ate it up and helped create the line of belief

ok...but it happened and a lot.

when I hear buffoons saying that in wawas in “blue” New Jersey...it’s certainly worthy of note.

you’re choosing “your side of it”...which we all do. But my hill is taller than yours at this point.

it was a failure of leadership...politics for profit in a health situation. I don’t excuse the media...but if you think that was the “big” problem...you’re being driven like cattle.

I hope they make you into something classy at least...like a porterhouse 🥩
 

corsairk09

Active Member
that’s NOT what I’m saying...not tossing the baby with the water.

what I’m saying is there’s a proportionally higher percentage of the adult population following the talking picture box and the Disgraced, loser of a clown.

that’s the numbers...the vaccine numbers...it’s not debatable now that the data is reported. It’s not an opinion poll...which from the start with covid was the problem.
Because it never was an opinion poll.

take the vaccines to get the stuff you want (not “you”...but you get the point)...instead of just whining about getting the stuff.
Big boy/girl thinking time.

and just to debunk next years false excuse: if people don’t get it...and don’t die/get sick...that didn’t make them right. It just means nature isn’t perfect.
I am just OVER people being villainized. EVERYONE is doing the best they can, and trying to survive this the best way they know how. Just because it isn't what you would do doesn't mean they deserve the derision you throw their way.

I am vaxxed and sooooo happy to be. I feel relieved and "free" again. That is the message I send to everyone who is still uncertain or concerned. I can tell you.... that works better than guilt or name calling.
 

SorcererMC

Well-Known Member
I'm just spitballin' here but maybe correlation isn't causation and maybe there are parts of the country with historically low access to healthcare that are also economically depressed and maybe people with concerns (legitimate or not) just need access to accurate information from someone they trust like a medical provider that they know or maybe that their family has known for years. Maybe as cases drop dramatically national-level tracking becomes useless and what matters more is what's happening on the ground at the county-level.
 

DavidNoble

Well-Known Member
It always has been

it started because of an election year and the media’s hate for trump. Then division set in. Then some wishy washy cdc and fauci things. And here we are….the media and politicians continuing to stir the pot rather than help Americans be United….why….because of $ and power - BOTH sides are to blame

Doesn't everyone know how kind and thoughtful and caring our former POTUS was? Doesn't everyone know he just wanted the best for everyone? I've never seen a more caring person in my life.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
Just to throw a little bit of cold water, remember the pattern that emerged last year, cases dropped in May but began to sharply rise in June as the second wave hit and affected the Southern US as those residents retreated from the heat indoors to AC. This pattern is likely to occur again, it will be blunted by the vaccines, but the area of the country most likely to be afflicted in the coming months is the area with the lowest vaccination rates. Things could regionally spiral out of control there. I think the favorable weather pattern and high vaccination rates will make for an amazing summer in the Northeast and Pacific coast, the Midwest and Plains after a late start should be pretty good as well, but I fear for the SE (outside of FL, TX, and VA where vaccination rates are higher.)
 

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