Club 32 - World's Fair, Discoveryland, and Tomorrowland

[spacemt354]

 

[FigmentPigments]

I agree broadly with doing a submarine ride in either Discoveryland or Tomorrowland, and I like DisneySea's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ride system you've suggested. I also agree that Tomorrowland needs a shrinking-related ride, either something going into the human body like Body Wars or Fantastic Voyage, or something which explores quantum subatomic space like an updated Adventures Through Innerspace. Actually, any of these shrinking concepts could use DisneySea's dry-for-wet omnimover pods.

Perhaps the submarine attraction (whichever sub-land it goes into) could instead use a motion simulator ride system like Star Tours or DisneySea's old Storm Chaser. (I suggest this since I assume Star Wars won't be appearing in our idealized futurist Tomorrowland.) Imagine a futuristic underwater "flight sim" with branching storylines and in-cabin effects where the sub seems to be leaking (water sprays). This ride's aesthetic specifics, I leave to other Imagineers.

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@spacemt354, World's Fair seems pretty well completed with versions of Disney's original 1964 attractions. Is it advisable to take inspiration from other aspects of the 1964 World's Fair as well? Specifically, could we do a new variation on GE's Futurama dark ride? (This was actually the Fair's most popular attraction, eclipsing runner-up It's a Small World.)



Though not originally Disney, this ride is very much the precursor to Horizons with a realistic look at Man's near future. Or is it too close in concept to Carousel of Progress, and is its ride system too redundant with Ford's Magic Skyway?

Is the Journey to Atlantis attraction scrapped then? I was thinking to use this ride system for that attraction.

 

[D Hulk]

Is the Journey to Atlantis attraction scrapped then? I was thinking to use this ride system for that attraction.

Nice to meet you, @FigmentPigments! I'm very new around here, so I was brainstorming blindly without knowing of the Journey to Atlantis proposal. I have no objection to that idea with the DisneySea submersible ride system.

Was considering a new line of inquiry: What to do with the Star Tours ride system (a Tomorrowland mainstay outside of WDW) without using the Star Wars IP, and with something unique from Body Wars. I'm assuming we're using neither Star Wars nor Marvel in our Tomorrowland or Discoveryland, but someone correct me if needed.

 

[FigmentPigments]

Nice to meet you, @FigmentPigments! I'm very new around here, so I was brainstorming blindly without knowing of the Journey to Atlantis proposal. I have no objection to that idea with the DisneySea submersible ride system.

Was considering a new line of inquiry: What to do with the Star Tours ride system (a Tomorrowland mainstay outside of WDW) without using the Star Wars IP, and with something unique from Body Wars. I'm assuming we're using neither Star Wars nor Marvel in our Tomorrowland or Discoveryland, but someone correct me if needed.

Nice to meet you too @D Hindley ! I've actually been away sick for quite a while so I wasn't able to keep that ride idea to the forefront, so no worries.

I would rather not use Marvel or Star Wars in Tomorrowland myself, and I like the idea of Tomorrowland 2055 that was never built. There's so much we could do with it without making it an IP. What if we made it an original idea? After all, most of the original Tomorrowland was IP-less.

 

[spacemt354]

Nice to meet you, @FigmentPigments! I'm very new around here, so I was brainstorming blindly without knowing of the Journey to Atlantis proposal. I have no objection to that idea with the DisneySea submersible ride system.

Was considering a new line of inquiry: What to do with the Star Tours ride system (a Tomorrowland mainstay outside of WDW) without using the Star Wars IP, and with something unique from Body Wars. I'm assuming we're using neither Star Wars nor Marvel in our Tomorrowland or Discoveryland, but someone correct me if needed.

I would think so -- because as long as we are starting over we might as well do something new!

I'll have to think on that

 

[spacemt354]

P.S. I added tomorrowland into the title. It was driving me nuts

 

[D Hulk]

Nice to meet you too @D Hindley ! I've actually been away sick for quite a while so I wasn't able to keep that ride idea to the forefront, so no worries.

I would rather not use Marvel or Star Wars in Tomorrowland myself, and I like the idea of Tomorrowland 2055 that was never built. There's so much we could do with it without making it an IP. What if we made it an original idea? After all, most of the original Tomorrowland was IP-less.

Tomorrowland 2055 has been discussed a bit lately, and it's a grand idea. Agreed on an original, non-fantasy Tomorrowland (Discoveryland allows creators to indulge in more outrageous Vernian concepts). Do a creative and optimistic look at our own future, mixed with scientific concepts like space travel which do not become obsolete with time.

An organizing principle for Tomorrowland: Man's journey to the various "spaces" - outer space, inner space, liquid space (the oceans), cyber space, temporal space (time travel). Just a sudden notion.

Since Discoveryland is getting a War of the Worlds themed Space Mountain, we've been discussing for Tomorrowland an outer space E-ticket called Soarin' Over the Cosmos. Otherwise, Tomorrowland lacks other specific attraction ideas...for now.

 

[spacemt354]

An organizing principle for Tomorrowland: Man's journey to the various "spaces" - outer space, inner space, liquid space (the oceans), cyber space, temporal space (time travel). Just a sudden notion.

You just read my mind!

 

[D Hulk]

You just read my mind![/QUOTE]
*GASP!*

 

[spacemt354]

Outer Space - Soarin' Over The Cosmos
Inner Space - (I actually designed an attraction called "Intracellular" -- it is a mix of Adventures Through Inner Space as well as Body Wars) I could post that here if you want to see
Liquid Space - Not sure yet
Temporal Space - An Adventure In Time by @MCParradox
Cyber Space - Tron?

 

[FigmentPigments]

Outer Space - Soarin' Over The Cosmos
Inner Space - (I actually designed an attraction called "Intracellular" -- it is a mix of Adventures Through Inner Space as well as Body Wars) I could post that here if you want to see
Liquid Space - Not sure yet
Temporal Space - An Adventure In Time by @MCParradox
Cyber Space - Tron?

Great ideas everyone. Tron would be okay if we did something other than a light cycle ride or at least did more with it.

 

[spacemt354]

Here's the Intracellular attraction (it's from a competition last year)

http://spacemt354.wixsite.com/epcot2023/intracellular-part-1

 

[D Hulk]

Great ideas everyone. Tron would be okay if we did something other than a light cycle ride or at least did more with it.

How about doing cyberspace, and Tron, as a replacement for the Buzz Lightyear shooter ride. Blasting away viruses inside the computer!

A thrilling variation on the Peoplemover (but one that actually works - sorry, Rocket Rods) would be neat too. See pic below, for a proposed (and rejected) fix to Disneyland's Tomorrowland, with like KUKA arm jets (?) along the elevated walkways. (Also the Astro Orbiter above, which naturally has to happen!) Jet bike things to-be-determined zoom across the land for that crucial Tomorrowland kinetics.

 

[spacemt354]

How about doing cyberspace, and Tron, as a replacement for the Buzz Lightyear shooter ride. Blasting away viruses inside the computer!

A thrilling variation on the Peoplemover (but one that actually works - sorry, Rocket Rods) would be neat too. See pic below, for a proposed (and rejected) fix to Disneyland's Tomorrowland, with like KUKA arm jets (?) along the elevated walkways. (Also the Astro Orbiter above, which naturally has to happen!) Jet bike things to-be-determined zoom across the land for that crucial Tomorrowland kinetics.

Wow I've never seen or heard of this before! Very cool!

 

[FigmentPigments]

How about doing cyberspace, and Tron, as a replacement for the Buzz Lightyear shooter ride. Blasting away viruses inside the computer!

A thrilling variation on the Peoplemover (but one that actually works - sorry, Rocket Rods) would be neat too. See pic below, for a proposed (and rejected) fix to Disneyland's Tomorrowland, with like KUKA arm jets (?) along the elevated walkways. (Also the Astro Orbiter above, which naturally has to happen!) Jet bike things to-be-determined zoom across the land for that crucial Tomorrowland kinetics.

I'm totally on board with this! Surprisingly, Tomorrowland (despite having a giant spinning ride in the center of the land) looks very stagnant. Kinetic elements are what sells in immersive environment and if Tommorrowland is to represent the the optimistic future then these kind of things are essential.

 

[D Hulk]

An Adventure in Time by @MCParradox would be absolutely perfect for temporal space!

@spacemt354, I've now read and enjoyed Intracellular. It's almost ideal. Great storyline, sets, atmosphere. It just needs a ride system without a height requirement, since those are really easy to overdo in Tomorrowland. With all apologies to @FigmentPigments, the DisneySea submersibles would likely be best (dry-for-wet, bubble layers in the windows) for simulating a shrunken voyage into the human body. Of course, other ideas are most welcome!

 

[FigmentPigments]

An Adventure in Time by @MCParradox would be absolutely perfect for temporal space!

@spacemt354, I've now read and enjoyed Intracellular. It's almost ideal. Great storyline, sets, atmosphere. It just needs a ride system without a height requirement, since those are really easy to overdo in Tomorrowland. With all apologies to @FigmentPigments, the DisneySea submersibles would likely be best (dry-for-wet, bubble layers in the windows) for simulating a shrunken voyage into the human body. Of course, other ideas are most welcome!

No problem. I can think of something else.

 

[Corey]

Maybe, since we seem to be settling on having Discoveryland's Space Mountain be themed to the War of the Worlds, since it was a fictional future struggle between Martian invaders and humanity, the Tomorrowland Space Mountain could be set to something in the future. I was thinking that it could be Disney's The Black Hole and basically be an updated take on the small craft the Palomino (the Space Mountain ride cars) desperately try to break free from the U.S.S. Cygnus and the event horizon of the black hole, or it could be the probe ship as it travels through the black hole.

 

[Corey]

Hi all, do you think there could be an attraction called "Contagion" in Tomorrowland where you are visiting what you think is an Agricultural Research Service lab that is working on G.M.O. foods, but is instead illegally developing germ warfare weapons (biological warfare agents) in contravention of a treaty. You are in the observation lounge observing the scientists working, when one of them accidentally drops a test tube, releasing the agent into the building. The isolation doors then drop trapping you in the building. Then the infected scientists start trying to break through the containment doors to get out of the lab with axes. You hear them banging on the walls and glass shattering. You are also watching what is going on in the rest of the building from monitors. As you wait fearing that the scientists will breakthrough exposing you to the germ warfare agent, you are waiting desperately for emergency crews to reach you that will safely get you out of the building. My inspiration for this idea comes from the movie Warning Sign, which more or less inspired later post-apocalyptic movies. Here is the trailer using the music to Alien for added suspense:

 

[spacemt354]

Hi all, do you think there could be an attraction called "Contagion" in Tomorrowland where you are visiting what you think is an Agricultural Research Service lab that is working on G.M.O. foods, but is instead illegally developing germ warfare weapons (biological warfare agents) in contravention of a treaty. You are in the observation lounge observing the scientists working, when one of them accidentally drops a test tube, releasing the agent into the building. The isolation doors then drop trapping you in the building. Then the infected scientists start trying to break through the containment doors to get out of the lab with axes. You hear them banging on the walls and glass shattering. You are also watching what is going on in the rest of the building from monitors. As you wait fearing that the scientists will breakthrough exposing you to the germ warfare agent, you are waiting desperately for emergency crews to reach you that will safely get you out of the building. My inspiration for this idea comes from the movie Warning Sign, which more or less inspired later post-apocalyptic movies. Here is the trailer using the music to Alien for added suspense:

This seems like it would make a good Halloween maze. Though to me personally I question how something a bit darker like this will fit with the positive view of the future that Tomorrowland is going to represent.