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[spacemt354]

Duh....

Why can't Splash Mountain go in Fantasyland? ...Act as a transition to the Outback/Frontierland?

That would negate the need for it to be in Australia, satisfactual to the Splash Mountain purists (@Brer Oswald ), and frees up space on the western side of the park to have more Australian centric things.

Like Rescuers Down Under -- maybe that could be in Adventureland? Maybe the Finding Nemo dark ride could blend in better? Basically Critter Country becomes absorbed into Frontierland and Adventureland.

If Haunted Mansion can go in Fantasyland I don't see a reason why we can't reconfigure Fantasyland to fit Song of the South.

 

[FigmentPigments]

On the Parade Route:
I don't like the idea of the parade route going down Main Street. It creates a really bad roadblock and I think it would kind of ruin the tranquil build up of Fantasia Gardens with a parade going down it. Instead, I think the parade route should sort of bisect the park. Villainsland, over the bridge, around the hub (the long way), into Critter Country, ending near the Frontierland Railroad Station. Thoughts?

Spitballing on the Events
Forgive the ramble

January (start week after New Years): Mickey's Disneyland Celebration
Hub show. Basically a much, much, much smaller scale version of the Disneyland Paris 25th Anniversary Grand Celebration. Something that good needs to be shown somewhat regularly. Add in the new lands and it's the perfect length.

February: Valentines. I have this one pretty much down.
Princess Dreams: Hub show. An elaborate celebration of Disney Princesses. Every Princess in represented.
Rose Princess Gardens: Princesses take over some of the pathways in Fantasia Gardens for meets. The Princess Chateau can also go down for refurb during this month because of them.
Bouquet of Love Cavalcade: Princesses on floats covered in flowers. Grouped by era maybe?

Music Event(Fall: March/April/May)
Two themes I can see this going:
Battle of the Bands: Donald and Goofy vs. Minnie and Daisy with Mickey as host and Chip and Dale judging. Not my favorite idea but it could work especially with good costumes and genre twists on Disney songs.
Musical Notes: My personal favorite. Music notes escape Fantasia Castle and the park turns into a musical wonderland. Cast break into song at a moment's notice and continue on like nothing happened. Castle show could be Mickey getting the notes back into the castle where they belong. Parade could be a wild music note chase. A show in the hub could be something along the lines of this:
Spitballing a couple names, 'Symphonyland' or 'Musicland'.
There's also the choice of combining them and using Battle of the Bands for the hub show.

June/July/August: Winter
I already discussed A Stitch Event:


Frozen Winter Fun
Frozen based event. Anna and Elsa take over the park. Maybe a parade? Tokyo did a decent job with one but Frozen is seriously one of Disney's most overrated films and really doesn't deserve the popularity it got. Not my favorite idea here

Disney A La Carte
Food! Food and wine transplanted into the Disneyland setting and kept very, very, very classy. The Aussie's love their booze and they really love cuisine but they know their limits so I could see it working. Lumiere or Remy could host. Something along the lines of the recently departed A Table is Waiting at DisneySea would be an obvious choice for a castle show.

Walt Disney's Celebration of Stories
Daytime castle show taking the place of the regular show for the season with a longer runtime and more characters. Nighttime show in addition to Fairytale in the Stars. Hub show that doubles as a greeting show. Mini-parade/cavalcade?

Halloween: September/October
Villains based event.
Day and night parades.
Day and nighttime stage shows.
Greeting show in the hub.
Villains taking over Fantasia Gardens paths.
Decorations everywhere
More intense overlay on Bald Mountain?

Christmas: November/December
Mickey and Friends hosted (Mickey's Magical Christmas) or Belle hosted (Belle's Enchanted Christmas)
Day and night parades
Day and nighttime stage shows
Castle and tree lighting show
Mickey and Friends greeting show in the hub
Princess based greeting show in the hub
Decorations everywhere

New Years
Special Countdown Parade/Show on New Years Eve
New Years greeting cavalcade

Is Halloween a big thing in Australia?

 

[D Hulk]

Figment agrees with this. Theres one story she remembers about a frog that sucked up all the water and the animals had to make him laugh to let out all of the water.

Though consensus is trending towards a traditional Critter Country (which is a more than excellent option), thought I'd add what I've learned from Figment's memory regarding an Australian option.

The Aboriginal Myth of Tiddalik the Frog

Tiddalik awoke with an unquenchable thirst one day, and proceeded to drink every last drop of water in the Outback.

All the animals needed to stop Tiddalik. Wise old Owl had an idea to get the water back. He had Eel tie himself into hundreds of knots, which made Tiddalik laugh so hard that he released every last drop of water.

And there was much rejoicing!

*****

I think this tale indeed has flume ride potential, with the final drop as Tiddalik laughs, earlier drops as he drinks. If the original songs cannot be reused, I personally have faith that new songs and new characters can be done just as well by Disney. (I'll cite Mystic Manor and also Sindbad's Storybook Voyage as new classics with the right look and tunes.)

As for potential controversy...the original story has none. It's only K. Parker's retelling which does (which we wouldn't have to reference).

Of course, all this could be 2nd gate material instead. I do think something original which responds to the local culture (and these myths do have importance to the European Australians) would be wise someplace at the resort.

 

[mickeyfan5534]

If Haunted Mansion can go in Fantasyland I don't see a reason why we can't reconfigure Fantasyland to fit Song of the South.

Isn't Critter Country basically Frontierland's Fantasyland anyways? If Critter Country is absorbed into Fantasyland, Adventureland, and Frontierland, all three get a very sizable increase and the potential for another land later on is added.

 

[FigmentPigments]

Though consensus is trending towards a traditional Critter Country (which is a more than excellent option), thought I'd add what I've learned from Figment's memory regarding an Australian option.

The Aboriginal Myth of Tiddalik the Frog

Tiddalik awoke with an unquenchable thirst one day, and proceeded to drink every last drop of water in the Outback.

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All the animals needed to stop Tiddalik. Wise old Owl had an idea to get the water back. He had Eel tie himself into hundreds of knots, which made Tiddalik laugh so hard that he released every last drop of water.

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And there was much rejoicing!

*****

I think this tale indeed has flume ride potential, with the final drop as Tiddalik laughs, earlier drops as he drinks. If the original songs cannot be reused, I personally have faith that new songs and new characters can be done just as well by Disney. (I'll cite Mystic Manor and also Sindbad's Storybook Voyage as new classics with the right look and tunes.)

As for potential controversy...the original story has none. It's only K. Parker's retelling which does (which we wouldn't have to reference).

Of course, all this could be 2nd gate material instead. I do think something original which responds to the local culture (and these myths do have importance to the European Australians) would be wise someplace at the resort.

That's it! It really does seem like we could use this story or even just parts for the splash ride.

 

[spacemt354]

Isn't Critter Country basically Frontierland's Fantasyland anyways? If Critter Country is absorbed into Fantasyland, Adventureland, and Frontierland, all three get a very sizable increase and the potential for another land later on is added.

It is basically -- it's mostly animated Disney characters which is what Fantasyland is -- and you're right...it would clear space for another potential land down the line.

 

[mickeyfan5534]

Is Halloween a big thing in Australia?

It's starting to get an increasing popularity.

 

[spacemt354]

I could see us extending the water and recongifuring a lot of the top left side to fit this

Firs things first -- Moana isn't there anymore with @mickeyfan5534 's lagoon show...so already we have that open. Peter Pan we don't have much on, so if that was scrapped for Phase 2, there's more free land. Combine that with nixing the CBJ, we could either extend Fantasyland to where Splash is currently (having it next to Winnie the Pooh which makes sense) and/or we could also move it around to the back of the park where Pan is and extend the waterway

A lot of options but @MonorailRed I know you said you were going to try and update the map a bit tonight what are your thoughts on this?

 

[Brer Oswald]

Duh....

Why can't Splash Mountain go in Fantasyland? ...Act as a transition to the Outback/Frontierland?

I thought of that too.

 

[MonorailRed]

That would negate the need for it to be in Australia, satisfactual to the Splash Mountain purists (@Brer Oswald ), and frees up space on the western side of the park to have more Australian centric things.

Like Rescuers Down Under -- maybe that could be in Adventureland? Maybe the Finding Nemo dark ride could blend in better? Basically Critter Country becomes absorbed into Frontierland and Adventureland.

If Haunted Mansion can go in Fantasyland I don't see a reason why we can't reconfigure Fantasyland to fit Song of the South.

I could see us extending the water and recongifuring a lot of the top left side to fit this

Firs things first -- Moana isn't there anymore with @mickeyfan5534 's lagoon show...so already we have that open. Peter Pan we don't have much on, so if that was scrapped for Phase 2, there's more free land. Combine that with nixing the CBJ, we could either extend Fantasyland to where Splash is currently (having it next to Winnie the Pooh which makes sense) and/or we could also move it around to the back of the park where Pan is and extend the waterway

A lot of options but @MonorailRed I know you said you were going to try and update the map a bit tonight what are your thoughts on this?

Love it! Let's do it. I'll work on messing with the map ASAP.

Any last requests for the map before starting to edit? I really love the direction space has with this....

 

[Brer Oswald]

I could see us extending the water and recongifuring a lot of the top left side to fit this

Firs things first -- Moana isn't there anymore with @mickeyfan5534 's lagoon show...so already we have that open. Peter Pan we don't have much on, so if that was scrapped for Phase 2, there's more free land. Combine that with nixing the CBJ, we could either extend Fantasyland to where Splash is currently (having it next to Winnie the Pooh which makes sense) and/or we could also move it around to the back of the park where Pan is and extend the waterway

A lot of options but @MonorailRed I know you said you were going to try and update the map a bit tonight what are your thoughts on this?

Pan is the backbone of Fantasyland. The whole project started with Pan.

 

[mickeyfan5534]

Firs things first -- Moana isn't there anymore with @mickeyfan5534 's lagoon show...so already we have that open. Peter Pan we don't have much on, so if that was scrapped for Phase 2, there's more free land. Combine that with nixing the CBJ, we could either extend Fantasyland to where Splash is currently (having it next to Winnie the Pooh which makes sense) and/or we could also move it around to the back of the park where Pan is and extend the waterway

Honestly, Moana and the lagoon show could coexist just fine and I think Moana is well deserving of a high quality C/D ticket or at least saving her for Phase 2 or even Phase 1.5. If Fantasyland is extended all the way to Splash, then I would have Fantasyland and Tomorrowland take over Villainsland for symmetry's sake. That's my two cents. CBJ can be a Frontierland attraction.

 

[Corey]

Continuing with the above...

@Twilight_Roxas @Corey @Jones14

We're working on a Sydney Disneyland theme park in Australia -- below is a link to our cumulative progress (with attraction details and so on) as well as our basic map and lands

If you have any thoughts/feedback or any suggestions of your own for attractions/restaurants/shops please feel free to post them! Thank you!

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/club-32-sydney-disneyland-cumulative-draft.926539/

Fantasia Gardens - Fantasia themed version of Main Street U.S.A.
Pacific Wharf - 1905 San Francisco
Frontierland - Americana West based on National Parks and the frontier
Critter Country - Australian based Critters from the Outback
Adventureland - Fantasy version of adventure, tropics, pirates, and more
Fantasyland - The land of enchantment and storytelling
Villains Land - possibly renamed, home of all Disney Villains
Tomorrowland - based on Tomorrowland 2055.

Hey all, maybe you can squeeze in a harbor called Botany Bay since this resort is found in Australia, and that is where the convicts landed (near what would become Sydney) that ultimately went on to settle that continent. I don't know if the government and people of Australia would necessarily want to constantly be reminded of that fact, kind of like the government of Canada nearly scrapped the Canada pavilion at Epcot Center since they thought Canadians would be caricatured as lumberjacks. Nevertheless, a Botany Bay Land could provide kind of a ruffian or outlaw land kind of like New Orleans Square in Disneyland.

 

[MonorailRed]

On the Parade Route:
I don't like the idea of the parade route going down Main Street. It creates a really bad roadblock and I think it would kind of ruin the tranquil build up of Fantasia Gardens with a parade going down it. Instead, I think the parade route should sort of bisect the park. Villainsland, over the bridge, around the hub (the long way), into Critter Country, ending near the Frontierland Railroad Station. Thoughts?

Spitballing on the Events
Forgive the ramble

January (start week after New Years): Mickey's Disneyland Celebration
Hub show. Basically a much, much, much smaller scale version of the Disneyland Paris 25th Anniversary Grand Celebration. Something that good needs to be shown somewhat regularly. Add in the new lands and it's the perfect length.

February: Valentines. I have this one pretty much down.
Princess Dreams: Hub show. An elaborate celebration of Disney Princesses. Every Princess in represented.
Rose Princess Gardens: Princesses take over some of the pathways in Fantasia Gardens for meets. The Princess Chateau can also go down for refurb during this month because of them.
Bouquet of Love Cavalcade: Princesses on floats covered in flowers. Grouped by era maybe?

Music Event(Fall: March/April/May)
Two themes I can see this going:
Battle of the Bands: Donald and Goofy vs. Minnie and Daisy with Mickey as host and Chip and Dale judging. Not my favorite idea but it could work especially with good costumes and genre twists on Disney songs.
Musical Notes: My personal favorite. Music notes escape Fantasia Castle and the park turns into a musical wonderland. Cast break into song at a moment's notice and continue on like nothing happened. Castle show could be Mickey getting the notes back into the castle where they belong. Parade could be a wild music note chase. A show in the hub could be something along the lines of this:
Spitballing a couple names, 'Symphonyland' or 'Musicland'.
There's also the choice of combining them and using Battle of the Bands for the hub show.

June/July/August: Winter
I already discussed A Stitch Event:


Frozen Winter Fun
Frozen based event. Anna and Elsa take over the park. Maybe a parade? Tokyo did a decent job with one but Frozen is seriously one of Disney's most overrated films and really doesn't deserve the popularity it got. Not my favorite idea here

Disney A La Carte
Food! Food and wine transplanted into the Disneyland setting and kept very, very, very classy. The Aussie's love their booze and they really love cuisine but they know their limits so I could see it working. Lumiere or Remy could host. Something along the lines of the recently departed A Table is Waiting at DisneySea would be an obvious choice for a castle show.

Walt Disney's Celebration of Stories
Daytime castle show taking the place of the regular show for the season with a longer runtime and more characters. Nighttime show in addition to Fairytale in the Stars. Hub show that doubles as a greeting show. Mini-parade/cavalcade?

Halloween: September/October
Villains based event.
Day and night parades.
Day and nighttime stage shows.
Greeting show in the hub.
Villains taking over Fantasia Gardens paths.
Decorations everywhere
More intense overlay on Bald Mountain?

Christmas: November/December
Mickey and Friends hosted (Mickey's Magical Christmas) or Belle hosted (Belle's Enchanted Christmas)
Day and night parades
Day and nighttime stage shows
Castle and tree lighting show
Mickey and Friends greeting show in the hub
Princess based greeting show in the hub
Decorations everywhere

New Years
Special Countdown Parade/Show on New Years Eve
New Years greeting cavalcade

Love this outline Mickeyfan!

Good thoughts on the parade route.

Love the January/February ideas!

For the Music Festival I love the music notes idea! Keep deleting it, it sounds so cool!

I think Frozen would really be the best bet for winter, however... Your celebration of stories and Disney A La Carte sounds awesome for the season alone! Let's keep it with that.

Keep developing Halloween, Christmas, and New Years!

Really enjoyed what you're coming up with so far mickeyfan! Keep it up!

 

[spacemt354]

Pan is the backbone of Fantasyland. The whole project started with Pan.

I know but I still don't know what it is haha

Just thinking of possible locations for Splash if this is the direction we go.

 

[MonorailRed]

Pan is the backbone of Fantasyland. The whole project started with Pan.

It may make more sense to have Pan near Villainsland... that way we could use Hook's ship as a transition point.... There's a big land plot over there. That way we keep it and everything's still okay.

Honestly, Moana and the lagoon show could coexist just fine and I think Moana is well deserving of a high quality C/D ticket or at least saving her for Phase 2 or even Phase 1.5. If Fantasyland is extended all the way to Splash, then I would have Fantasyland and Tomorrowland take over Villainsland for symmetry's sake. That's my two cents. CBJ can be a Frontierland attraction.

I will vouch for Space on this....

If we do have Moana and Pan, we need ride throughs for them quickly so Imagineerland can have a good idea of the scope of the attraction for the Sketchup Style map.

So we need to have as much of the map worked on before he starts.

If we don't at least have a basic ride through by Sunday.... I'll agree with Space on getting rid of both. That or pushing them to Park #2.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I know but I still don't know what it is haha

Just thinking of possible locations for Splash if this is the direction we go.

I know I'm sorry it's my fault. I was supposed to detail it but I have a lack of time. I just think it's far too important to scrap.

 

[spacemt354]

It may make more sense to have Pan near Villainsland... that way we could use Hook's ship as a transition point.... There's a big land plot over there. That way we keep it and everything's still okay.



I will vouch for Space on this....

If we do have Moana and Pan, we need ride throughs for them quickly so Imagineerland can have a good idea of the scope of the attraction for the Sketchup Style map.

So we need to have as much of the map worked on before he starts.

If we don't at least have a basic ride through by Sunday.... I'll agree with Space on getting rid of both. That or pushing them to Park #2.

Just the scope of the attraction would do for the building size sake. And what kind of attraction it is (indoor/outdoor)

The more info the better for Imagineerland -- and since he's being kind enough to make the official map it'd be impolite I feel to have a ton of stuff being changed as he is completing it. So if we can get the 95% complete draft of the attractions and their locations by Sun/Mon that'd be ideal.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Pan is the right size it is now. If you need the sketch up of the facade, it's the one I had, only mirrored if it is to transition villains land.

 

[spacemt354]

It may make more sense to have Pan near Villainsland... that way we could use Hook's ship as a transition point.... There's a big land plot over there. That way we keep it and everything's still okay.



I will vouch for Space on this....

If we do have Moana and Pan, we need ride throughs for them quickly so Imagineerland can have a good idea of the scope of the attraction for the Sketchup Style map.

So we need to have as much of the map worked on before he starts.

If we don't at least have a basic ride through by Sunday.... I'll agree with Space on getting rid of both. That or pushing them to Park #2.

I'll just let you do your thing when it comes to redoing the map -- we can go through drafts of it before Sun/Mon until we find something everyone likes