Christmastime @ WDW, 2012. Ride/Food/Overall Report

So, myself and my wife just got back Saturday the 8th of December from a week at WDW. We did a 4 day park hopper (military priced) and one day at Universal (just to see HP Land). The biggest issue wasn't the parks this trip, more the people (we had 7 people total in our group, both younger and older). It was a family reunion of sorts, devised by my wife and I last year. We thought it'd be a good idea...

I won’t get into the logistic nightmare of having half invalids for parents complaining about their feet and the multiple bathroom stops (I swear we wasted 6 hours in the bathroom over the course of the week). Even with a very detailed itinerary we still struggled to drag people to stay on task. I truly don’t know how parents with babies and elderly people in tow with them can have any fun at all. It seems like a waste of money. More power to you guys’ who can deal with all that crap. Our next trip will be just me and my wife. Maximum fun, minimum pain.

The parks report:

MK- It looked great as usual. This is my 5th time there for Christmas. The buildings looked still freshly painted, all the Christmas trimmings were done to perfection.
Rides: POTC enhancements are ‘okay’. The animated projection for the mermaids is a
Little hokey for my taste, but it’s refreshing to see them trying something new.
Haunted Mansion. This is the first time I’ve been there for the interactive queue. I’ve heard all the bad stuff about it on the boards and I personally really liked it. I think it added to the fun of the ride overall.
IASW. Still don’t like it compared to Disneyland’s version, but all the stuff inside looked freshly painted. That little part of Fantasyland seems really cheap compared to the rest of it. That part of the world needs a refurb to match the rest of Fantasyland, and to keep up with New Fantasyland.
New Fantasyland is awesome. The Little Mermaid ride is exactly the same as DL version. The queue is unbelievable. The Barnstormer ride is good for a kid. All the attention to detail is really great to see. It’s on par with Carsland here in Cali. Be Our Guest restaurant had excellent food and even though the line was out the door for lunch, it still moved quick.
Space Mountain. Great as always.
I really can’t emphasize how much New FL looks great. Sure the Seven Dwarves Mine Train construction is ugly, but it really doesn’t detract from the quality work that has been accomplished. I really think that WDO needs to address the rest of FL to make it match the quality (at least topically) to New FL. It’s like walking into two different worlds over there. Old Fantasyland feels out of place and cheap in certain areas.
Food: Like I stated, we got a chance to eat at Be Our Guest. My wife and I split two entrees (steak and ham and cheese sandwiches). Both were great. The rest of our party got the pork entrée with potatoes and veggies and all said it was great as well. My wife got a chocolate mousse cupcake for dessert and the bite I had was really good. I thought it would be dense cake, but it was light and fluffy.
We also ate at the Harbour House, which was ok. Still feels like a 1980’s version of Long John Silver’s though. Tomorrowland Terrace continues to have THE WORST FOOD in the park. This holds true at the DL version as well. Both are geared toward an 8 year old’s pallet.

We also attended the Christmas Party one night. We’ve done this before and like usual it’s great. The one change that we noticed is that the cookie/hot chocolate spots were in major restaurants and there were only a few mobile stations set up. So the lines were horrendous. The CM uniforms were festive though!
Christmas Wishes Fireworks were great as always, but not too much change from a couple years ago when we were there last. The new Celebrate the Magic is a definite upgrade from the MM&Y, but I recommend standing farther away from the castle while viewing it. If you get a spot around the circle you’ll lose some of the magic because you can see the grainyness of the projections. We watched it twice and the farther back you get, you’ll enjoy it much more.
All in all, last week WDW was the place to be. 10-15 minute waits on nearly everything as well.

EPCOT:
Rides. We rode everything in the park with minimal wait times (except Soarin’, which seems to always have a ridiculous wait time of an hour, so we don’t go on it. Especially since it’s the same exact ride out here in DL). I’ll only comment on what people want to know about and what I hate. Test Track 2.0. We rode it the day before the official opening. The queue is soooo much better. It doesn’t resemble the hokey ride of TT 1.0. The bugs need to be worked out with the design process. Half the CM’s don’t know what they’re doing still, and the wait in the queue is fast/slow/fast/sloowww/medium, and then you get to your build station and the CM’s have to explain things to you. I knew this would be a learning curve, but I feel this will diminish the appeal of this ride over time. Inside the ride look almost exactly like the concept drawings. However, you can barely hear what ‘test’ you’re supposed to be doing as you speed through all of them. The ride is faster through the middle before the speed test and the effects are cool, but the ride is still lacking something special about it. As my wife put it, ‘it’s a boys ride now’, I’ll agree with that statement. It’s much more a boys ride now than ever before. The post show stuff and interactive games are great. The showroom is much better as well. All in all, Disney gets a solid grade of B on this ride. Anything better than that people are lying to you.
Maelstrom continues to be a joke of a ride, and quite possibly the worst thing ever devised by Disney. It lacks coherent thought and touts an OIL RIG at the end of the ride, right before you watch a CONSERVATION video. I’m all for oil production, but I think there are two differing thought processes going on there… Anyway, I will always hate this ride, and we’ll still ride it just for the comic relief of seeing other people’s dissolutioned faces as their walking through the gift shop. ‘F’
Spaceship Earth. This is the first time I’ve ridden that ride since it’s been dumbed down. They literally waste 5 minutes of ride time with that terrible Jetson’s crap at the end. I can’t believe they reduced this ride for our dumbed down education system here in the US. ‘C’

Food: We ate at Tutto Italia, still good food. A bit overpriced, but that’s Disney. We also ate breakfast down in The Land at their grab and go, and it was really good and reasonably priced.



Overall, Epcot was great. The lines were short for everything (except Maelstrom, there’s a sucker born every minute!, lol). The countries looked great and we caught a few stories from various Christmas Santa’s as well. Andy Garcia did an excellent job as emcee of the Concert as well. Illuminations needs to be replaced, fast. That show continues to be lackluster and doesn’t match World of Color in DL nor any other pyrotechnics show that Disney offers.

Animal Kingdom:
We really liked the changed format of the safari. It doesn’t feel as kiddy as before. It feels more natural the way its set up now. Flights of Wonder is still cool, but the dude who is supposed to be the famous tour guide/explorer is cringe inducing. He sounds like a bad knockoff character from the old Bozo show. EE was still great, but Disco Yeti is barely able to be seen with the darkness over there. We rode it twice (pretty much walked on it both times) Some people in my party missed it both times, even with me pointing out where it was at in the ride. It’s a shame. It was glorious back in the day when it worked. Dinosaur needs to go. Such as waste of a great ride system (Indy at DL) with a boring plot. Sad as well. That goes for all of Dinoland. It’s an out of place park for Disney. It feels like a carnival. It feels cheap. They need to retheme both Primeval Whirl and Dinosaur, or as much as I hate to say it, bring Avatar in. I’m not a fan of that movie, but ANYTHING is better than what is there now. Festival of the Lion King is a great live show, first time I saw it. Flame Tree BBQ is still great food too, but the 45 minute wait in line was the longest line we had for the entire week, food/rides combined.

Disney MGM/err Hollywood Studios:
Probably the busiest of all the parks for the week (don’t know why, considering they have the least amount to do there). Rockin’ Rollercoaster is great when it works, but that damn ride goes down more than anything in all of the Disney parks I’ve been to. Either something screws up while riding it, or we get turned away in the middle of the queue. FIX THE GLITCH WDO. ToT is still a great ride. It’s a bit more jolting at California Adventure, so it’s a bit more exciting that Hollywood Studios version, but I like the immersive dark ride element the HS version has. The Indy stunt show is still fun, but so dated… time for something new there too. Beauty and the Beast live show is still great as well. My wife’s favorite part of that park, besides the Osborne Festival of Lights, which is always amazing. We didn’t eat this time in HS, but we have in the past. Nothing really notable at any of the restaurants anyway in this park. This park and AK are ½ to ¾ day parks anyway.


All in all, the trip was good. I recommend the first week of December just because lines are usually shorter and the weather is relatively good (75 degrees all week on average). Even with all the new openings last week, it wasn’t crowded.

On a side note, Harry Potter land doesn’t belong at Universal. It’s so immersive and well done that it makes the rest of Islands of Adventure pale in comparison. I’m sure Disney is kicking themselves on not carrying that movie franchise.

Another side note. Butterbeer isn’t really that good. It gives you a headache. Unless you’re a butterscotch freak, skip it. LeFou’s brew is actually better at New FL. Give it a try.



 

javy2004

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i was wondering how a 4 day hopper would work out for someone wanting to experience as much as possible in the parks. seems very doable now that i read your TR. I'm only going with my younger sis so there shouldn't be anyone complaining or foot pain or there being constant restroom breaks. Where did you stay when you were there? I'm going to be at Shades of Green and I wanted your opinion if you ended up going there. Also I figure Hollywood Studios is so busy because there is so few attractions, but they are some of the biggest and most popular in WDW. Being stationed in AZ I got to check DLR a few times and I agree with you on using such an amazing ride system that is used on Indy on something like Dinosaur. Terrible. The wait times for Soarin' in EPCOT blow my mind. I got on it in DCA the first time I rode it and I felt my mind implode as I thought to myself, 'people at EPCOT wait 60+ min for this??!!??!!'

I'm curious if the super queue that Little Mermaid has makes you a little more into the ride compared to the near nonexistant queue in DCA? It looks amazing as far as ride queues go, but it seems also a little excessive for a ho-hum kinda cute C attraction at best.

I totally agree with WWoHP at IoA. The rest of the park has the vibe of 'sections themed to a certain franchise' vibe, while Potter truly feels like you're in this whole other world and you're totally immersed. I don't know if that made sense. I love me some butterbeer, but I can totally see how anyone can find the sweetness and butterscotch flavor to be total overkill. Thanks for the report :)
 

rle4lunch

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Original Poster
i was wondering how a 4 day hopper would work out for someone wanting to experience as much as possible in the parks. seems very doable now that i read your TR. I'm only going with my younger sis so there shouldn't be anyone complaining or foot pain or there being constant restroom breaks. Where did you stay when you were there? I'm going to be at Shades of Green and I wanted your opinion if you ended up going there. Also I figure Hollywood Studios is so busy because there is so few attractions, but they are some of the biggest and most popular in WDW. Being stationed in AZ I got to check DLR a few times and I agree with you on using such an amazing ride system that is used on Indy on something like Dinosaur. Terrible. The wait times for Soarin' in EPCOT blow my mind. I got on it in DCA the first time I rode it and I felt my mind implode as I thought to myself, 'people at EPCOT wait 60+ min for this??!!??!!'

I'm curious if the super queue that Little Mermaid has makes you a little more into the ride compared to the near nonexistant queue in DCA? It looks amazing as far as ride queues go, but it seems also a little excessive for a ho-hum kinda cute C attraction at best.

I totally agree with WWoHP at IoA. The rest of the park has the vibe of 'sections themed to a certain franchise' vibe, while Potter truly feels like you're in this whole other world and you're totally immersed. I don't know if that made sense. I love me some butterbeer, but I can totally see how anyone can find the sweetness and butterscotch flavor to be total overkill. Thanks for the report :)

We stayed at SoG as well. It's a great resort. On caliber with Hale Koa in Waikiki as well. The first day though we stopped back into the room to get some supplies and we had a knock on one of our doors (we had connecting rooms for my large party) from maintenance as a pipe busted above one of our rooms and the floor was flooding. They said they were going to move us, which they did, but when they told me what rooms they were giving us (all the way across the resort next to the laundry room with no view!), I said 'You've got to be kidding me, you're not giving us your crappiest room in the resort due to your technical malifunction!' so they moved us on the same floor to another set of ajoining rooms, but they had downgraded bathrooms with one sink and no seperate shower area (not good for 7 people!), so I complained again and and they moved us again to a correct room. Meanwhile this took nearly 3 hours out of our first day. So not good.

We had a very detailed itinerary. My wife and I go to Disney all the time so we new how to set up what rides to hit and when, which made it easier overall.

The Little Mermaid queue helps out new FL as a whole and to get into the mood for the ride. The ride harkens back to the original 'dark rides' that Disney is known for, which is probably while I like it. However, there isn't anything too special with it. The animatronics are a step up.

LeFou's Brew is a frozen apple juice with toasted marshmallow cream and mango topping. It wasn't as overpowering as Butterbeer. Just my opinion tho. :)
 

javy2004

Active Member
We stayed at SoG as well. It's a great resort. On caliber with Hale Koa in Waikiki as well. The first day though we stopped back into the room to get some supplies and we had a knock on one of our doors (we had connecting rooms for my large party) from maintenance as a pipe busted above one of our rooms and the floor was flooding. They said they were going to move us, which they did, but when they told me what rooms they were giving us (all the way across the resort next to the laundry room with no view!), I said 'You've got to be kidding me, you're not giving us your crappiest room in the resort due to your technical malifunction!' so they moved us on the same floor to another set of ajoining rooms, but they had downgraded bathrooms with one sink and no seperate shower area (not good for 7 people!), so I complained again and and they moved us again to a correct room. Meanwhile this took nearly 3 hours out of our first day. So not good.

We had a very detailed itinerary. My wife and I go to Disney all the time so we new how to set up what rides to hit and when, which made it easier overall.

The Little Mermaid queue helps out new FL as a whole and to get into the mood for the ride. The ride harkens back to the original 'dark rides' that Disney is known for, which is probably while I like it. However, there isn't anything too special with it. The animatronics are a step up.

LeFou's Brew is a frozen apple juice with toasted marshmallow cream and mango topping. It wasn't as overpowering as Butterbeer. Just my opinion tho. :)

7 people? wow! You guys are really good to get so much done in 4 days with that big a group. I'm sorry with the bad luck you had with your room. Glad it eventually got worked out though. I agree with the animatronics, Ursula is a sight to behold. I hope the queue for the mine coaster is just as detailed. Was getting around to the parks from Shades of Green difficult? Do you have advice for making morning EMH when leaving the resort?

I also totally intend on enjoying LeFou's Brew on my coming trip :D Thanks for the info
 

rle4lunch

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Original Poster
7 people? wow! You guys are really good to get so much done in 4 days with that big a group. I'm sorry with the bad luck you had with your room. Glad it eventually got worked out though. I agree with the animatronics, Ursula is a sight to behold. I hope the queue for the mine coaster is just as detailed. Was getting around to the parks from Shades of Green difficult? Do you have advice for making morning EMH when leaving the resort?

I also totally intend on enjoying LeFou's Brew on my coming trip :D Thanks for the info

SoG is about a 10 minute walk to Poly to catch the monorail or the ferry. It's not too bad. There is a pond in between where we spotted a couple gators hanging out, which was kind of neat. There are signs clearly posted not to feed them. lol.

We didn't really need too much planning for the EMH. We hit MK for the early morning EMH and Epcot for the evening EMH. Animal Kingdom doesn't need EMH in my opinion, and DHS closes at 8 nearly everyday, so it doesn't need them either.
 

Britt

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I sooooooooooo agree about Harry Potter at Universal. We left WWoHP and it just felt weird I really hate that Jurrasic Park towers over Hogwarts! I loved ButterBeer though. I got the frozen kind, not sure if that makes a difference, or if it was so hot out, that any cold drink would have tasted like heaven! Haha
 

rle4lunch

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Original Poster
I sooooooooooo agree about Harry Potter at Universal. We left WWoHP and it just felt weird I really hate that Jurrasic Park towers over Hogwarts! I loved ButterBeer though. I got the frozen kind, not sure if that makes a difference, or if it was so hot out, that any cold drink would have tasted like heaven! Haha

We got the frozen one too, gave me a brain freeze! lol
 

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