Chinese Theatre

DinoInstitute

Well-Known Member
It's a haunted hotel with a theme that in no way ties the rest of the park together as an icon should. It's big, which makes it a weenie, but it is no more appropriate than making Space Mountain the MK icon. Thematically, the Chinese Theatre works better but it is not distinctively Disney. Icons should pull the whole park together. The Mickey Hat honestly did that but was gaudy as hell. Who would have thought they'd tear it down and decide to build a Mickey ride behind it two years later?!
I get what you're saying. I think it works because it's not just a haunted hotel, but can well represent the Old Hollywood theme. In addition with the Twilight Zone IP it also features the classic tv/movie aspect of the park.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
I get what you're saying. I think it works because it's not just a haunted hotel, but can well represent the Old Hollywood theme. In addition with the Twilight Zone IP it also features the classic tv/movie aspect of the park.
This is something that has always confused me about this jumbled mess of a park. Ostensibly it's a working studio, thus the false facades. Yet Hollywood Blvd is really in the 1930s and Sunset Blvd is really in the 1940s with RnRC and ToT set in the present day? Star Tours is a Hollywood set until it's real?

Is Hollywood Tower Hotel a movie set (nothing actually suggests this in the theme) or are we meant to believe it is real?
 

Christian Fronckowiak

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
This is something that has always confused me about this jumbled mess of a park. Ostensibly it's a working studio, thus the false facades. Yet Hollywood Blvd is really in the 1930s and Sunset Blvd is really in the 1940s with RnRC and ToT set in the present day? Star Tours is a Hollywood set until it's real?

Is Hollywood Tower Hotel a movie set (nothing actually suggests this in the theme) or are we meant to believe it is real?
Hollywood Boulevard is real. Sunset Boulevard is real. Echo Lake is "really Hollywood" with some backlot-ish sets where Star Wars and Indiana Jones are being filmed... ?... Once through the studio arch, everything is a production facility, even though you can walk through SoA through the Echo Lake side. And then Mickey Avenue became Pixar Place which became a "real studio filtered through Mickey's Toontown" where the characters are "movie stars."
Idk.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Hollywood Boulevard is real. Sunset Boulevard is real. Echo Lake is "really Hollywood" with some backlot-ish sets where Star Wars and Indiana Jones are being filmed... ?... Once through the studio arch, everything is a production facility, even though you can walk through SoA through the Echo Lake side. And then Mickey Avenue became Pixar Place which became a "real studio filtered through Mickey's Toontown" where the characters are "movie stars."
Idk.
Sunset is real 1940s but RnRC and ToT are present day? It doesn't work for me.
 

El_Tomato

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I just feel like the Chinese Theatre is neglected. It remained for more than a decade behind a giant Mickey hat (because why not) and, when the Hat finally came down, the Theatre was rewarded with a fresh coat of paint and a sponsorship. Not even an "icon of the park" status.
And that's it.
And now, rumors say that the Great Movie Ride (which, IMO, is what still - kind of - holds the park together by addressing the "movies/Hollywood" theme as a whole) will be rethemed into a Mickey ride of sorts (and that could mean that the Theatre facade would be replaced by something else - because why not, again).
My main complaint about the park is that it started with such a coherent theme (Hollywood and the art of making movies) that, after many years of replacements and readjustments, the original idea simply fell apart. Now, we have "Star Wars Launch Bay" on Animation Courtyard.
So, by (~) 2025, this park should be basically made of Toy Story, Mickey (???), Star Wars, random recreations of 30/40's Hollywood-inspired streets, and a haunted hotel (if ToT doesn't become GotG:MB til then).
Disney's Hollywood Studios: the Hollywood that never was, and always will be.
Not really.
 

FigmentForver96

Well-Known Member
Sunset is real 1940s but RnRC and ToT are present day? It doesn't work for me.
The hotel was built in 1917 and the incident in 1939. If the street is 1940s then perhaps that's enough to pass for a convincing theme. I mean Tower is the pinnacle of Disney imagineers and it definetly fits the theme of the entire front half very well. Although, I do agree it does not benefit the entire park as the icon.
 

DinoInstitute

Well-Known Member
This is something that has always confused me about this jumbled mess of a park. Ostensibly it's a working studio, thus the false facades. Yet Hollywood Blvd is really in the 1930s and Sunset Blvd is really in the 1940s with RnRC and ToT set in the present day? Star Tours is a Hollywood set until it's real?

Is Hollywood Tower Hotel a movie set (nothing actually suggests this in the theme) or are we meant to believe it is real?
I've always been under the impression that the front half of the park with the Hollywood areas are 'real'. And the rest was part of the studio tour half.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Sunset is real 1940s but RnRC and ToT are present day? It doesn't work for me.
It's a mix. Architecture is 30s. If a guest is meant to be in the 30s or present day is for them to decide. I guess it decides if you see any streetmosphere. Tower and RnRC are very much present day.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
The hotel was built in 1917 and the incident in 1939. If the street is 1940s then perhaps that's enough to pass for a convincing theme. I mean Tower is the pinnacle of Disney imagineers and it definetly fits the theme of the entire front half very well. Although, I do agree it does not benefit the entire park as the icon.
"The time is now on an evening very much like the one we have just witnessed."
 

PizzaPlanet

Well-Known Member
It's a mix. Architecture is 30s. If a guest is meant to be in the 30s or present day is for them to decide. I guess it decides if you see any streetmosphere. Tower and RnRC are very much present day.
Or maybe time passes as you walk down Sunset. At first you are in the 40s, but by the time you get to ToT you are in present day.
 

Pixie VaVoom

Well-Known Member
This is something that has always confused me about this jumbled mess of a park. Ostensibly it's a working studio, thus the false facades. Yet Hollywood Blvd is really in the 1930s and Sunset Blvd is really in the 1940s with RnRC and ToT set in the present day? Star Tours is a Hollywood set until it's real?

Ok, with all that time travel - NOW I have got a headache !!
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Well, there's almost nothing to the theater. It' mostly decorated tall walls...

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If it were gone:

  • they'd be an almost straight path to TSL
  • you can then create a huge and nicely theme entrance to TSL that everyone will see
  • you can remove the Animation Courtyard entrance wall, too, seeing that the Animation Tour and Workshop is gone
  • you can then use the decorations of the Chinese Theater facade to be the facade for one of the actual theaters in the park, or, use it to frame the main entrance to the park (you're entering the world of movies)
  • you can then put up a bigger and better facade that's nicely themed and is centered under the fireworks and more appropriate for projections (higher up and bigger and flatter)... yes, even something that resembles a giant screen... (screens and movie lands go together)... it could be one of those billboards that have rotating slats that show different scenes during the day and switch to white for the nighttime projections shows.
  • and while we're centering the projection show and fireworks, ditch Min&Bills and pave over Echo Lake so that there's enough viewing area in the 'hub'
 

HiYa Pal

Active Member
I hope that the "main street" up to the theatre remains intact as "setting you up to be in the movies" basically saying that the entire park is now The Great Movie Ride.
 

elchippo

Well-Known Member
It's a haunted hotel with a theme that in no way ties the rest of the park together as an icon should. It's big, which makes it a weenie, but it is no more appropriate than making Space Mountain the MK icon. Thematically, the Chinese Theatre works better but it is not distinctively Disney. Icons should pull the whole park together. The Mickey Hat honestly did that but was gaudy as hell. Who would have thought they'd tear it down and decide to build a Mickey ride behind it two years later?!
Good call! I feel more like TOT is to DHS what the Matterhorn is for Disneyland.
 

righttrack

Well-Known Member
The park icon and lack of an overall cohesive theme stems from the fact that they built it to spoil the opening of Universal in Orlando. They built a tour-able "studio" because that is what they expected Universal to do but Universal had other ideas. They built Universal Orlando as a theme park from the ground up rather than the "working studio" they had in Los Angeles. So WDW has constantly tweaked this park and now they have reached a crossroads. Say what you want but it's no more disjointed than the competition at Universal.
 

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