Children Returning to Schools

21stamps

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He does it again- no throws it all to the superintendents.


I would actually agree with the following part... IF that would have been taking place the past few months. Why wait til now?

New Jersey’s nearly 600 school districts will not be able to simply chose to go all-remote, the source said. Instead, the districts will need to show the state Department of Education the reasons why they can’t offer in-person classes at the start of the 2020-2021 school year and what they are doing to solve those problems.


“Districts are expected to continue to work with the DOE towards getting to the point where they can provide an in-person experience. Districts are expected to have to tell the department what hurdles to providing in-person education they are facing and a date they are working towards resolving those hurdles,” the source said. “The goal is still to have as much in-person learning as possible in the state.”
 

21stamps

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This is so ridiculous. There is no consistency in this area about what plans are being adopted. The commissioner of education hasn’t shown his face in weeks. It’s crazy.
it has been crazy- constantly changing plans almost at a whim. No communication until last minute, it has made this far more difficult than it needed to be

These governors are clearly failing. Why not just set what standards are recommended or required, and let each district carry it out?
 

Patcheslee

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These governors are clearly failing. Why not just set what standards are recommended or required, and let each district carry it out?
We don’t have governor direction, not even who is considered a close contact, or tracing compared to other districts we were notified of this change the first day of school. At a minimum you would expect the close contact, symptomatic, ect. would all have the same requirements in the state. As of now students can return after 24 hours without a fever if no other symptoms are present. It doesn't automatically require a COVID-19 test or even a doctor visit unless they have considered the student a close contact with a confirmed case.
 

aw14

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When do you start? More importantly, when can you vote him out?

I’m all for schools going back, but your governor’s ping pong play is not making it easy on school staff or parents right now.
Correct- he’s a disaster & has handled this (school
Issues) horribly. We delayed our start a bit to do some teacher training. We’re likely going to default to the county, and see what they say. If they decide to provide guidance, which is a big gift. Further- parents are signing up kids for virtual by the truck load right now. So Murphy might be null and void regardless.
 

21stamps

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Correct- he’s a disaster & has handled this (school
Issues) horribly. We delayed our start a bit to do some teacher training. We’re likely going to default to the county, and see what they say. If they decide to provide guidance, which is a big gift. Further- parents are signing up kids for virtual by the truck load right now. So Murphy might be null and void regardless.

Between this and the nursing home insanity, he should be called on to resign. Doubt it though.

What percentage of virtual do you have right now? Will he still allow parents to have the choice?
 

aw14

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Between this and the nursing home insanity, he should be called on to resign. Doubt it though.

What percentage of virtual do you have right now? Will he still allow parents to have the choice?
Parents will have the choice, but I have more than 1/4 student population opting for virtual.
 

21stamps

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Parents will have the choice, but I have more than 1/4 student population opting for virtual.

Isn’t that good though, to help reduce class sizes? My local district is about a 60in person/40 virtual split, but I forget the exact breakdown of elementary/middle/high school.. I didn’t receive the email, but I have talked to neighbors, and looked at the school’s public FB page.

Their schools are massive, which the 40% will help a lot with reducing numbers
 

aw14

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Isn’t that good though, to help reduce class sizes? My local district is about a 60in person/40 virtual split, but I forget the exact breakdown of elementary/middle/high school.. I didn’t receive the email, but I have talked to neighbors, and looked at the school’s public FB page.

Their schools are massive, which the 40% will help a lot with reducing numbers
From that perspective, yes...the issue is staffing. There is no money in the budget to hire more para professionals, let alone teachers, & I have many teachers opting for virtual. So I now have less staff that can proctor/supervise other areas (study hall/bathroom monitoring, etc..)

Murphy actually said, find it in other budgets. 🤦‍♂️
 

21stamps

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From that perspective, yes...the issue is staffing. There is no money in the budget to hire more para professionals, let alone teachers, & I have many teachers opting for virtual. So I now have less staff that can proctor/supervise other areas (study hall/bathroom monitoring, etc..)

Murphy actually said, find it in other budgets. 🤦‍♂️


In this instance, states should supply the money until the federal aid comes. The federal money is there..Ugh. I’m sorry I just don’t understand all of these hoops. It shouldn’t be this difficult on so many levels.
 

aw14

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In this instance, states should supply the money until the federal aid comes. The federal money is there..Ugh. I’m sorry I just don’t understand all of these hoops. It shouldn’t be this difficult on so many levels.
No disagreement- especially if there was leadership. Sadly, totally nonpartisan, there is none, anywhere
 

21stamps

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I can’t for the life me understand how we arrived at this point. Several months to prepare Plan A, B, C, and D for back to school, along with the needed funding.

So many levels of failure. I truly believe that there should be an investigation at the state level and trickle down, see what happened and why. A large portion of the school staff and school families are paying the price for incompetence somewhere along the line.
This is separate from teachers leveling attacks at parents while threatening to strike, in the media or on social media.
 

21stamps

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I’m scared to open this email..

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21stamps

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Apparently there’s 3 changes,
1. our school HAS decided to offer virtual.. but I have no idea why anyone would do this, sounds like a gigantic waste of money.
2. they will allow ‘mask breaks’
3. kids will no longer eat in the classroom, will be going to lunchroom.


Here’s our plans-
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Here’s the new virtual option, can’t imagine who would take this???

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It sounds like the school has discretion on if a student can continue with distance learning, if they aren’t performing well. That make sense. I wonder if this is most schools’ policy.
 
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Chi84

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Apparently there’s 3 changes,
1. our school HAS decided to offer virtual.. but I have no idea why anyone would do this, sounds like a gigantic waste of money.
2. they will allow ‘mask breaks’
3. kids will no longer eat in the classroom, will be going to lunchroom.


Here’s our plans-


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Here’s the new virtual option, can’t imagine who would take this???

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I can't imagine who would choose the virtual option either unless the goal is simply not to have children in classrooms at this point of the pandemic. Maybe some parents who are comfortable with home schooling?
 

21stamps

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I can't imagine who would choose the virtual option either unless the goal is simply not to have children in classrooms at this point of the pandemic. Maybe some parents who are comfortable with home schooling?

But they don’t need to pay several thousand dollars in tuition if they have the ability to teach their children anyway! It’s so strange. I’m super curious to know if any families are doing that. I haven’t heard of any... I know a large portion of the school (or friends who do and would have expressed shock at this), but obviously don’t know the decision of every single one.

We had 4 families (with a student in my kid’s grade) leave 2 and 3 years ago respectively to homeschool. They still play sports for the school and volunteer at concession stands. That makes a lot more sense than paying tuition for virtual, if not forced to.
 

21stamps

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One of my parent friends withdrew all 4 of her kids this year (youngest was entering Kindergarten) and enrolled at the public schools for their ages, specifically because they were afraid of a repeat of spring (forced virtual) and didn’t want to spend tuition x4 on it.
 

Patcheslee

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Apparently there’s 3 changes,
1. our school HAS decided to offer virtual.. but I have no idea why anyone would do this, sounds like a gigantic waste of money.
2. they will allow ‘mask breaks’
3. kids will no longer eat in the classroom, will be going to lunchroom.


Here’s our plans-
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Here’s the new virtual option, can’t imagine who would take this???

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It sounds like the school has discretion on if a student can continue with distance learning, if they aren’t performing well. That make sense. I wonder if this is most schools’ policy.
Ouch, no lunch provided? Does your school not have kids with free or reduced lunches? Or what happens with them?
And no there is no way I'd do virtual considering because of the possible difference in pacing vs the classroom. I'd worry my kid would fall behind the in classroom students. Other than that it looks similar to what we had when covid-19 hit here, not as structured and more need for parents to figure out. Hopefully they have training videos for new student parents because Google Classroom takes a bit to figure out.
 

21stamps

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Ouch, no lunch provided? Does your school not have kids with free or reduced lunches? Or what happens with them?
And no there is no way I'd do virtual considering because of the possible difference in pacing vs the classroom. I'd worry my kid would fall behind the in classroom students. Other than that it looks similar to what we had when covid-19 hit here, not as structured and more need for parents to figure out. Hopefully they have training videos for new student parents because Google Classroom takes a bit to figure out.

It’s a Catholic school, and our school does not accept voucher families.. I’m not sure if voucher schools would have to offer lunch?.. I know we don’t have to. We can’t afford the staff and equipment.😂

Our lunchroom staff is parent volunteers. Friday’s are optional hot lunch days, they order from local restaurants. It’s not mandatory, but I pay for the entire year.. it’s my favorite of the week since I don’t have to pack a lunch. 😂. Seriously, I look forward to it weekly.
I’m assuming that due to the new restrictions on entering the building, that they don’t want to bring a bunch of parents in on every Friday. Not sure, though... but would make sense.
Loss of Hot Lunch Friday and Milk Cards are the biggest bummer for me, besides drop off. I’m scared to death of that. I’m thinking it will be a nightmare. Most of the families at school have 3-5 kids, how long is that going to take per vehicle?!


The virtual learning is exactly what we had in the spring when DeWine shut us down. Kids still had every single subject, but parents had to help with lessons. It was HELL, I can’t imagine choosing that willingly while paying tuition!
 
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