News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

There does seem to be an Ego thing with Bob - many decisions don’t make sense money wise.

It’s kind of amazing how quickly the why behind CommuniCore Hall has been memory holed.

 

[Disney Analyst]

No the river was there when I went to the park last Friday. You can't compare some modifications to not being there at all. Cmon man lol. Stop with the silliness

I'd add, I actually think Disneyland's ROA may be at it's best in history, currently, despite the shortening. I really think that redone area to hide Galaxy's Edge, that the rail runs across, is stunning. Cascade Peak who?

The island however is a shell, and pathetic, and sad.

 

[Kamikaze]

50’ above the highest water line.

They aren't putting guests on a bridge 50 feet above the ground.

Is there something wrong with my vision? There is clearly still going to be water.

They aren't building your 'vision'.

 

[lentesta]

To all of the people that are completely OK with this change, I will say this: sooner or later, Disney is going to rip out the attraction/land/area that you think is sacred, that you love, that you think is integral to the parks. Only then will you understand how we feel about this change.

Pull up a milk crate and sit a spell, young man.

There are people on this thread who have park ponchos older than you.

Half of them have said "I'm still upset about If You Had Wings" to their therapist.

The "Bring Back World of Motion" club meets on Tuesdays at 8. Bring a covered dish.

 

[Andrew C]

Is there something wrong with my vision? There is clearly still going to be water.

Not much of it, and no longer a river.

 

[doombuggy999]

The "Bring Back World of Motion" club meets on Tuesdays at 8. Bring a covered dish.

The "Bring Back Delta Dreamflight" club meets quarterly in the basement of a closed Denny's. But it still exists.

 

[Raineman]

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Pull up a milk crate and sit a spell, young man.

There are people on this thread who have park ponchos older than you.

Half of them have said "I'm still upset about If You Had Wings" to their therapist.

The "Bring Back World of Motion" club meets on Tuesdays at 8. Bring a covered dish.

Tbh, I should have clarified my statement-"to anyone here who is younger or newer to WDW that has never lost something they love...". Trust me, I'm still bitter about Horizons and Communicore. I appreciate the young man part, though. I haven't been a young man in about 30 years so I like it.

 

[doctornick]

Blue: maintained as is, potentially with a walkway to the island (Retheme to somthing eg woodys roundup).

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Apparently the issue with this is the water needs to be connected to the canal around BTMRR.

I’d be all for it if it were feasible

 

[UNCgolf]

I think it's super simple for the general public. "I don't go on TSI, but I would love two Cars rides. I'm in!"

Yeah, I don't even care about removing TSI (although I understand why people do).

My only real issue is the waterfront at Liberty Square and Frontierland; the river is integral to the design of those areas. But they can obviously make changes to the remaining areas to fix that, if they wanted to.

 

[Kamikaze]

The general public is stupid.
Remember when Homer designed a car in The Simpsons?

So wait - your example of the general public being stupid (a sentiment I agree with, 50% of people are, after all, dumber than average) is a cartoon?

But its not about being 'stupid', its about Disney building its parks for the majority.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I’m sure the expense of operating it on a daily basis is much more compared to docking it and just utilizing it as a restaurant. It will probably be more profitable compared to its current use.

Correct - it doesn’t even cost that much to operate - at DL it requires steam qualified maintenance or RR CM but at WDW they just have regular CM’s operate.

Docking it is no more maintenance than the cigar store Indians.

They aren't putting guests on a bridge 50 feet above the ground.

I was just answering the question.

They aren't building your 'vision'.

Noooooo I meant my physical vision haha. As in my eyes see water in the concept art haha

 

[Grantwil93]

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Pull up a milk crate and sit a spell, young man.

There are people on this thread who have park ponchos older than you.

Half of them have said "I'm still upset about If You Had Wings" to their therapist.

The "Bring Back World of Motion" club meets on Tuesdays at 8. Bring a covered dish.

Mine is the original script with the tour guide for the bird show at DAK

We all have something we loved that is either a shell of its former self or just gone.

My biggest hope is that this Cars land will kill the speedway and we get a dual TomorrowLand overhaul for WDW and DL announced in like 3-5 years.

 

[Kamikaze]

Yeah, I don't even care about removing TSI.

My only real issue is the waterfront at Liberty Square and Frontierland; the river is integral to the design of those areas. But they can obviously make changes to the remaining areas to fix that, if they wanted to.

Exactly. TSI isn't really a major loss. The rest of the river isn't really a major loss (except for the actual trip on the boat). But the atmosphere/ambiance of the riverfront is what's being lost.

 

[Kamikaze]

My biggest hope is that this Cars land will kill the speedway and we get a dual TomorrowLand overhaul for WDW and DL announced in like 3-5 years.

Don't get your hopes too high, they announced electric vehicles for Autopia (DL), so they aren't going to do that and then replace it completely right after.

 

[Grantwil93]

Apparently the issue with this is the water needs to be connected to the canal around BTMRR.

I’d be all for it if it were feasible

Yeah, Because the ROA at WDW is essentially a wild river attached to the lagoon that they have a dam(the lock)to drain it. As far as i understand it, if you cut it off from the lagoon, it's a stagnant pond with no significant enough infrastructure to filter it, treat it, move the water, etc. And a stagnant pond in the south is a non starter.

Probably why Bill on Twitter said this

 

[Grantwil93]

Don't get your hopes too high, they announced electric vehicles for Autopia (DL), so they aren't going to do that and then replace it completely right after.

True, I think autopia is safe. Both lands need different things, but both need a lot of work. But I don't think Disney will touch either till these things are done.

Most I can see at WDW in the short term is turning stich into a more formel meet/greet like Fairytale Hall or something.

 

[brb1006]

R.I.P Tom Sawyer Island Rafts

 

[el_super]

I would argue they identified a reason they believed makes MK the most visited of the parks, but the failure of all the investment to lure people away means they didn’t correctly identify the real reason guests choose it over the others, despite some highly rated attraction additions based on Disney IP.

Failure isn't the right word. I think they all know what the problem is, there just isn't an easy answer to fix it. The quintessential Disney Parks® Experience was something set in stone, some 15 years before MK was built. History and nostalgia was dictating what the park would be like, and how it would be received before it was even open. Aside from building a time machine, I'm not sure there IS a way to change that. So they stick with the things they think they CAN change.

These plans, IMO, indicate an intent to Hunger Games the MK, which is in full display at DHS. I have ideas on what impact this will have on MK attendance, and I’m sure you and others will disagree.

Yeah I don't think things will really change. Even if it's the most expensive park in the world, the most complicated to get reservations for, has the most blockout dates and even looks tired and worn around the edges, no one is ever going to Walt Disney World without going to MK.

Which of course is a good reason for building up usable capacity there.

I'd add, I actually think Disneyland's ROA may be at it's best in history, currently, despite the shortening. I really think that redone area to hide Galaxy's Edge, that the rail runs across, is stunning. Cascade Peak who?

I know it's all pretty subjective, and the river is still pretty good today, but it was a different experience before. There is a picture (I think in the Nickel Tour?) of how much the trees had grown up around the river after 45 years, and standing at the edge of Hungry Bear, you could see the trees on the banks TOWERING over the Mark Twain. They had grown up to 50-60 feet tall, and the backside of the river was like being in a completely different world. The wilderness reformed in the middle of Anaheim. Once the trees started getting too big and started crashing down onto the river, they had to remove most of them and prevented the new trees from getting too tall. It's never going to be as wild as it was back then.

 

[DCLcruiser]

The Disney fan crowd may visit 2 days, but the normies that are skipping the rest of WDW, are buying 1-day tickets, and only visiting one day.

When we first started visiting WDW, Epcot was always stated to be a 2-day park. Hardly anyone ever says that anymore. It changed as prices went up, entertainment was eliminated, and changes that were intended to make it more appealing, didn’t work. The same can happen to MK.

All of the parks are 1 day. Unless you really need to waste LL on Meet & Greets.

This is not a bad thing. I can do Universal and Islands of Adventure together in 1 day. So, WDW is at least a 4 day trip.

 

[hopemax]

no one is ever going to Walt Disney World without going to MK.

Just flew right over your head there, didn't it?

I'm not disagreeing with this statement, but there is another possible outcome. Especially, for the group that is already only buying a single 1-day MK ticket as their WDW experience.