News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[peter11435]

You can’t guarantee that. There is no water in the concept art. And even if there is, again, a waterfall is not even close to the same thing as a river.

I can guarantee that. And there is water in the concept art.

 

[DisneyNeighbor]

Disney sure knows how to remove the soul out of a theme park! Erasing Mark Twain and Huck! Give them time they will drain the world showcase lagoon to drop in a few rides! Then drain bay lake and turn it into parking! I think it’s time to stop giving them $10k a year and spend it in the Caribbean at a resort relaxing on a beach! It’s time to grow up and say goodbye to that inner child!

 

[Bocabear]

There was actually a lot to do on TSI...the Fort with it's secret escape tunnel, the Mystery Mine, Injun Joe's Cave... then walking trails and the Mill... I think if they had developed Aunt Polly's into something, it would have been better but logistically difficult on the island... but that is neither her or there anymore...it will all be demolished...ahhh Progress.....

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

i will say this…. If any plan on the table resulted in docking the riverboat - I care less that they chose this plan.

I’m guessing the riverboat will end up parked near Tiana - maybe just a set piece, maybe a themed bar, maybe a little stage for Tiana and Louis to wave during up charge nights? Haha

 

[el_super]

A Cars attraction isn’t going to magically give people more time in their day to experience it. It’s going to present people with harder decisions of what to eliminate from their schedule. And then that thing will be on the chopping block, regardless of its quality. And eventually the MK problem of “there are too many attractions” to operate and staff, compared to the other parks, goes away.

This is absolutely true.

Disney’s answer isn’t make DHS more like the MK, enough variety, capacity and options to go around, which is what guests want. It’s make MK more like DHS.

This I disagree with. We've seen them spend, literally billions of dollars, to upgrade and enhance the other parks and it never really draws people way from MK. People go to WDW to get their picture in front of the castle and to do "Disney." It creates all sorts of lopsided capacity issues with trying to serve what is essentially the highest attended theme park in the world.

They tried to make DHS, DAK and Epcot MORE like MK to lure people away, but it hasn't worked. MK isn't becoming more like DHS, MK is getting more Disney.

 

[doctornick]

i will say this…. If any plan on the table resulted in docking the riverboat - I care less that they chose this plan.

I’m guessing the riverboat will end up parked near Tiana - maybe just a set piece, maybe a themed bar, maybe a little stage for Tiana and Louis to wave during up charge nights? Haha

The Riverboat is going away totally, not being docked. There's no place to dock it if they don't have any water.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

To all of the people that are completely OK with this change, I will say this: sooner or later, Disney is going to rip out the attraction/land/area that you think is sacred, that you love, that you think is integral to the parks. Only then will you understand how we feel about this change.

I get this. Eventually in my 40s or 50s they’ll take away something I really loved as a kid, maybe something like Submarine Voyage. But I’ve already made peace with that.

I think the knowledge that the attractions you visit won’t always be there makes each visit more meaningful.

 

[KDM31091]

A couple of things in the Bill Zanetti screed that has been posted sure does raise eyebrows:



There's an attraction right around the corner about which the same was said. How has that worked out?



Again, a reskinned attraction right around the corner would like a word or two about reliability.

We are going to lose RoA and TSI for an attraction by today's WDI that gave us TBA. Blech.

Exactly. They said the same thing almost word for word about Tiana. And they didn’t deliver. Nor did they deliver anything close to what had been been promised for Epcot. I mean does anyone like the “new” central area of Epcot better or think it’s a great improvement over what was previously there?

 

[deeevo]

The Riverboat is going away totally, not being docked. There's no place to dock it if they don't have any water.

A lot of options to dock it around Bay Lake. Doesn't need to be parked in MK.

 

[phillip9698]

The biggest deterrent we find is not a lack of interest, but a lack of time. It takes so much time and energy to do the top 5 things, something else doesn’t make the cut.

A Cars attraction isn’t going to magically give people more time in their day to experience it. It’s going to present people with harder decisions of what to eliminate from their schedule. And then that thing will be on the chopping block, regardless of its quality. And eventually the MK problem of “there are too many attractions” to operate and staff, compared to the other parks, goes away.

Disney’s answer isn’t make DHS more like the MK, enough variety, capacity and options to go around, which is what guests want. It’s make MK more like DHS. Whittle that attraction count down, people homogenize their attraction selections (we’ve seen this with all the FP, LL options and the guides to maximize your choices, don’t waste them!) , more pinch points, more money / time commitments to experience.

The MK is a two day park as is. You can experience anything you want in those 2 days, time isnt an issue. Given 2 days most people still do not go visit TSI.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

The general public is stupid.
Remember when Homer designed a car in The Simpsons?

We’ve come back to the “my opinion is worth more than what the median guest thinks” argument which is always very convincing and true

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The Riverboat is going away totally, not being docked. There's no place to dock it if they don't have any water.

Is there something wrong with my vision? There is clearly still going to be water.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The Riverboat is going away totally, not being docked. There's no place to dock it if they don't have any water.

It would also be an expensive thing to maintain just as a prop, which is why I don't see it staying anywhere in WDW either.

 

[doctornick]

Is there something wrong with my vision? There is clearly still going to be water.

?

I mean, there will be water in the sense that they will have waterfalls and geysers apparently, but not a sizeable body of water like the RoA. Which is what they would need to be able to dock the riverboat.

 

[Quietmouse]

I mean could they dock it on land and create like a haunted boat next to the entry way of villains land?

I’m just thinking of ways that the boat could be preserved and it seems like there are path ways to at the very least preserving the boat in some type of function.

 

[Quietmouse]

It would also be an expensive thing to maintain just as a prop, which is why I don't see it staying anywhere in WDW either.

I’m sure the expense of operating it on a daily basis is much more compared to docking it and just utilizing it as a restaurant. It will probably be more profitable compared to its current use.

 

[hopemax]

They tried to make DHS, DAK and Epcot MORE like MK to lure people away, but it hasn't worked. MK isn't becoming more like DHS, MK is getting more Disney.

I would argue they identified a reason they believed makes MK the most visited of the parks, but the failure of all the investment to lure people away means they didn’t correctly identify the real reason guests choose it over the others, despite some highly rated attraction additions based on Disney IP.

These plans, IMO, indicate an intent to Hunger Games the MK, which is in full display at DHS. I have ideas on what impact this will have on MK attendance, and I’m sure you and others will disagree.

 

[Gusey]

The Riverboat is going away totally, not being docked. There's no place to dock it if they don't have any water.

But from the concept art, there is some water along that edge and trees blocking that area of the park. For all we know, there could be water there too, a water buffer between current Frontierland and the Cars attractions. Also, as we saw with DLP's Lion King attraction featuring the wrong Lion King movie, Concept Art is designed to just give a sense of how the attraction could end up.

 

[Incomudro]

We’ve come back to the “my opinion is worth more than what the median guest thinks” argument which is always very convincing and true

My opinion is a better one than that of the median guest.

 

[hopemax]

The MK is a two day park as is. You can experience anything you want in those 2 days, time isnt an issue. Given 2 days most people still do not go visit TSI.

The Disney fan crowd may visit 2 days, but the normies that are skipping the rest of WDW, are buying 1-day tickets, and only visiting one day.

When we first started visiting WDW, Epcot was always stated to be a 2-day park. Hardly anyone ever says that anymore. It changed as prices went up, entertainment was eliminated, and changes that were intended to make it more appealing, didn’t work. The same can happen to MK.