News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Let the frontier have rivers, is the issue because TSI is too small for what they want to do with the two cars attractions and area?

Imagine instead they moved Cars Land or this Cars Concept to Disney's Hollywood Studios. That park would benefit from some refreshing waterfalls and cliffs and trees and foliage. It would of fitted so well next to beside Galaxy's Edge. They can actually embede real amounts of forest trees there as there is no underground casting tunnels. Imagine if they didn't do Toy Story Land and did this instead first BINGO!

Just then change Tom Sawyer Island and add something there like a Merida Brave in the wooden forest meet and greet story and arch nature game's. You can add something Brother Bear in that sized land and it would be perfect alongside the rivers. A Tiana Bayou Restaurant over facing the River and the Liberty Bell so Princess and The Frog and New Orleans.

You see though, that’s actually well thought out, which is against current MO! Why have fitting attractions with less profitable IP when you can shoe in one that prints money?

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

If this is going to be starting in earnest next year, I also cannot imagine it taking until
2029. I know the post shutdown situation was crazy, but I have to imagine they’ll speed things back to a normal pace?

V Land seems reasonable for a long time but not this Cars Frontier Land. Unless the scope of deconstruction and demolition leaves walls all around like it did at Epcot. Isn't the smart move build in phases for this. V Land doesn't need phases unless it wants to because it's being constructed behind on new land.

 

[Schmidt]

This is the one that scares them, and the one thing they need to realize while they plan these projects. They can't out-IP Pokemon and Mario in scale. The former is the biggest media series on the planet after only 25 years and no singular thing they have is as strong, even if they had unrestricted Marvel rights which they don't. And they might also throw out Zelda or a number of other massive IP they own, really Nintendo could make their own resort themselves and go toe to toe but Universal then has even more.

Disney obviously has massive IP, and more IP overall, and they are going to need to use it against Nintendo. So I get why Cars is coming here. But they also need to consider that their strength is the image of impeccable theming, that it's considered the best themed resorts in the world, and that the vibes are happy. All far more then Universal. The more they neglect the parks, the more theming is considered less important, the more they cut, the more stressful and pricey it gets the more the public will see that image decline and make Disney vs Universal solely a battle of which IP is more enticing to a potential guest. And if they are going against Mario and Pokemon Disney is losing that battle.

A bit melodramatic.
I may not agree with the location of this ride, theming is not even a little part of its problem. It is stunning in my opinion. Now will it be good. It does look like Disney is pulling out all the stops in these additions at least for now. Time will tell though.

Mario land does look good though even though the main attraction is a bit of a disaster in my opinion.

 

[Ghost93]

Someday historians will ask “When did the concept of Disney theme parks end?”

When this was uttered by the Chairman:

"The American West has always been about keeping your eyes on the horizon … believing in yourself, carving your own path, and striving toward success. That goes for miners in the mountains, bears from the country, a princess from the bayou … or a racecar from the big city," Josh told the crowd.

If that's the new criteria for Frontierland — believing in yourself and carving your own path — we could have rides themed around modern Disney classics like Wish and Strange World as the heroes in those movies all strive to carve their own path. They would be new, relevant IPs. Could maybe get rid of outdated rides like Big Thunder Mountain to make room for them.


In all seriousness though, while I'm not at all upset about the loss of Tom Sawyer's island, that quote was one of the silliest things I've ever heard.

 

[TheRealSkull]

Currently holding out hope the backside of the Rivers of America is left untouched, and Villains goes behind it. There wouldn't be Tom Sawyer's Island, but it would be the best case scenario now.

 

[Moth]

There's something potentially being announced possibly as soon as next Destination D23 just as work starts on RoA that can be open as early as late 2026 to soften the blow for fans for another park. It'll be a fan favorite if it happens.

Disney has plans for 2026. I've heard some stuff, others have heard some stuff. Let's see where stuff happens.

Stuff.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

If that's the new criteria for Frontierland — believing in yourself and carving your own path — we could have rides themed around modern Disney classics like Wish and Strange World as the heroes in those movies all strive to carve their own path. They would be new, relevant IPs. Could maybe get rid of outdated rides like Big Thunder Mountain to make room for them.


In all seriousness though, while I'm not at all upset about the loss of Tom Sawyer's island, that quote was one of the silliest things I've ever heard.

I'm surprised they haven't decided to turn Frontierland TSI into Frozen 2 with the Autumn Forest. Infact this could be brilliant because there's a river where Anna and Olaf moat on so there's your reason to keep ROA.

Isn't Anna and Elsa literally creating their own path in the sequel.....

Bingo!

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Currently holding out hope the backside of the Rivers of America is left untouched, and Villains goes behind it. There wouldn't be Tom Sawyer's Island, but it would be the best case scenario now.

Chef Idea Mickey`= says

Havent thought of that. All we ask is to keep the Liberty Bell even if the sight of it with the castle was beautiful. Can it stay and have a smaller circle route on the backside. You can drive cars and ride a ship. At least you then have the Best of Both World's a Legacy, a new Land, and new attractions.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

My understanding is
- Tropical Americas (2027)
- Monsters Inc (2028)
- Cars (2029)
- Villains (2029-2030)

Could also see Cars/Villains opening in the same year or Cars in the same year as Monsters Inc.

That's insane...makes Frontierland Brutal Epcot Walls Forever Again!

 

[SCOTLORR]

There's something potentially being announced possibly as soon as next Destination D23 just as work starts on RoA that can be open as early as late 2026 to soften the blow for fans for another park. It'll be a fan favorite if it happens.

Disney has plans for 2026. I've heard some stuff, others have heard some stuff. Let's see where stuff happens.

Stuff.

Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?

 

[Moth]

Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?

Anything HoP, be it Kamala in the event she wins, Trump going back to the current president spot if he wins, Muppets, or anything else in between, will be before then.

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?

I was thinking Imagination.

If Muppets is going for Monsters, I think we're going to know this year and the HoP Muppets will be announced at the same time.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?

This TEA pretty much confirms "why they did rid Splash Mountain, Country Bears to IP, and now TSI and ROA and there hasn't been a break since the first one."

 

[Jrb1979]

Epcot is too big for the number of attractions. Every country should have something.

That was the original plan. Each country was going to have an attraction but for many reasons they never finished them. They haven't gone back to them and never will as they aren't IP.

 

[tomast]

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[Disgruntled Walt]

There's something potentially being announced possibly as soon as next Destination D23 just as work starts on RoA that can be open as early as late 2026 to soften the blow for fans for another park. It'll be a fan favorite if it happens.

Disney has plans for 2026. I've heard some stuff, others have heard some stuff. Let's see where stuff happens.

Stuff.

When is next Destination D23? Does RoA work start by next July (when I’ll be there)? If they think for a second that Figment is going to soften the blow of losing Muppets, they’ve got another think coming.

 

[Homemade Imagineering]

I was thinking Imagination.

If Muppets is going for Monsters, I think we're going to know this year and the HoP Muppets will be announced at the same time.

If the current rumor of reusing the existing track layout holds up then I could see it taking about a year, given they shutter the current attraction immediately after Destination concludes. Don’t think anyone’s gonna need that much time to say goodbye to the 22 yr old dumpster fire that’s there now. resurrecting the original set pieces is very doable.

And yeah HoP going away for Muppets after their original show is retired isn’t necessarily a “fan favorite” decision. I would hope they receive their own space elsewhere in DHS, potentially even in the AC plot, but that’s just wishful thinking (edit, just realized we are talking about ROA it’s been hard to catch up on either situation but my point still stands with Muppets)

 

[MrPromey]

They clearly said next 5 years.

This thread is 87% people arguing against made-up points. So… just another day at the forums!

They clearly said what of the next 5 years, exactly?

Please, tell me what they actually said and not what you decided to infer from it.

What can we expect five years from today?

But to that, they clearly said we were getting an addition to Main Street that was going to include a live theater show, too.

Do you remember the Play Pavilion?

Marry Poppins attraction?

This leadership has a record of announcing things way too early, over-promising, under-delivering and taking too long to do it, if they end up doing it at all.

I pay more attention to what they actually do than what they use carefully crafted wording to say and I'm sorry but I find it very difficult to trust anything they present anymore given the way this leadership team delivers, be it timelines, concept art, etc.

I feel it's pretty safe to say they've earned that lack of trust over the last ten or so years.

We've already seen that concept art is blue sky since it's using the Frontierland from DLP and not ours in the rendering which tells you right there whatever you're looking at isn't accurate.

Yeah, I exaggerated a little but to put my statement of your referenced post in context, when they first announced Pandora for AK and posted that fake "groundbreaking" photo, my son had not even been conceived yet. By the time it finally opened, he more than met the minimum height requirements.

Anyway, you're welcome to feel differently but don't pretend I'm "arguing against a made up point".

 

[Moth]

I currently have no pointers it's Imagination. Leaning towards a retheme of RnR.

 

[tomast]

I Believe this carland was design for Disneyland Paris and not for the Magic Kingdom!

at the bottom right of the big thunder you can see a mine shaft elevator similar to the ones you can see on Disneyland Paris Thunder Mountain

And the buildings you can see at the left are the Disneyland Paris frontierland buildings with the Lucky Nugget and the Last Chance Cafe and the Silver Spur

Compare to this google maps image I took.

So the building that seems to be Frotierland railroad at the top middle was indeed the Phantom manor.