lazyboy97o
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It’s like Journey of Water all over again with people telling themselves what they want it to be when Disney has already indicated otherwise.
So...everyone complains that Disney needs to be more like Universal.
They are in the same IP business. Epic U, except for the central coaster, is ALL IPs.
Cars, as a franchise, is still making lots of money for Disney. Carsland is the most popular land in DCA.
The original film made 10 billion in merch sales and they are still releasing new lines of Cars in toy stores.
Guardians is considered the best Marvel Trilogy and a classic. Its not going away.
Star Wars has been around since 1977 and the land can be easily converted to any timeline, which you can see the beginnings of with the Mandalorian added to MF:SR
Disney does a LOT of research and crunches a lot of numbers before choosing the IPs to put in their parks.
Is this based on insider info, or just inferences based on what we know?You are operating under the incorrect assumption that these 2 updates are the only thing planned for that area in the future. The assumption that Cars and Villains are the complete plans would allow one to conceive an alternate plan that keeps TSI/ROA. Disney has not shared the complete plans for that portion of the park.
TSI/ROA isn’t being removed because they can’t figure out a way to make it fit with Cars and Villains. It’s being removed because it doesn’t fit with the overall plan which will be shared TBD.
Idk if anyone is saying it yet but they are Literally Paving Paradise
Disney does a LOT of research and crunches a lot of numbers before choosing the IPs to put in their parks.
Should I search this site, or his podcasts?@lentesta has hinted as much.
All these construction experts in this thread who can draw colourful shapes on an overhead image.This. This is exactly what I would have expected. This seems to address the main issues without destroying a carefully curated waterfront with no reason.
I believe he said somewhere earlier in this thread that they have a plan for the expansion bbt. If they would've put cars and villains there it would've blocked any more expansion in the area.Should I search this site, or his podcasts?
I’m sure this discussion is worn out already, but “can” is a real technicality. The only ways you’ll ever be seeing the RoA from Liberty Square are if you’re getting on the Liberty Belle, entering the HM queue, or going out of your way to look at it from the edge.
I believe he said somewhere earlier in this thread that they have a plan for the expansion bbt. If they would've put cars and villains there it would've blocked any more expansion in the area.
Is this based on insider info, or just inferences based on what we know?
I mean it's always been more than one day for me..I'll be at wdw in 10 days. One day in each park plus the Halloween party on my ak day.With villains and cars taking over the River, and what ever lies bbt…could magic kingdom become almost too big ? It’s already nearing a 2 day park based off how busy it is…adding cars, villains and any more potential land could easily put magic kingdom in a 3 day park territory.
The numbers are more or less correct. Obviously changed a bit since that was written. But they're close enough.
And 70 years is a large amount of time to build up a lead.
That’s only painful since they are ignoring those and using this! HahaIt is going to pain people to hear this but just know…………..there are expansion pads at each of these parks that you will not live to see put in use.
It’s interesting that you frame the “moral superiority” of people who aren’t happy with the loss of RoA/TSI as being upset purely because of politics/Walts beliefs or hatred against Imagineers. Most people in this thread and on Twitter have been expressing that they’re majorly upset with the loss of the atmosphere- the “park” part of “theme park”. We don’t hate Imagineers, they are told what to do by corporate, they don’t have a say in what stays or goes. I’ve already talked about why dozens of times. The people screaming “Woke Disney hates America” are a small minority of fans who are just screaming to fuel the culture war. They don’t represent the fandom as a whole, like how the Save Splash crowd don’t represent everyone who liked Splash.This is it. I don’t really care about the IP vs Original arguments, and I do feel bad for people sad to lose TSI and RoA. What bothers me is the moral superiority this thread has taken — arguments that fans don’t know what they want, that Disney hates the RoA or hates America, that the Imagineers are malicious, that closing a project is a personal offense to Walt or Jim Henson or whomever, or that dedicated fans deserve more say than whatever the general public wants.
And then it turns out, they were wrong. At the end of the day, they’ll eat up the same slop as the general public.
There are many Disney fans here, especially the older ones, who are very nostalgic about the original parks and are having an understandably difficult time with all these changes.This is it. I don’t really care about the IP vs Original arguments, and I do feel bad for people sad to lose TSI and RoA. What bothers me is the moral superiority this thread has taken — arguments that fans don’t know what they want, that Disney hates the RoA or hates America, that the Imagineers are malicious, that closing a project is a personal offense to Walt or Jim Henson or whomever, or that dedicated fans deserve more say than whatever the general public wants.
And then it turns out, they were wrong. At the end of the day, they’ll eat up the same slop as the general public.
The irony here is that they had the perfect opportunity to shove Cars into Epcot with the TT retheme. But nope...Cars goes to MKWe have Frozen, where does that go? Magic Kingdom! Right, into Epcot.
Now we have Moana, where does that go? Animal Kingdom! Right, into Epcot.
Guardians of the Galaxy, where does that go? Hollywood Studios! Right, into Epcot.
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