News California indoor Mask Mandate is lifted

Roy G. Dis

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I'm from Chicago currently visiting the DLR. We had a honor system for masks for the unvaccinated for about six weeks this past summer before it came back. No capacity restrictions came back though, yet.

Visiting here I noticed that despite no indoor mask mandate a ton of people still wear masks (like in Target) and the amount of people wearing masks outdoors is not what I'd expect. This thread is the only evidence I have that wearing masks in the OC is controversial. Otherwise my impression was that it was no big deal.
 

mickEblu

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I'm from Chicago currently visiting the DLR. We had a honor system for masks for the unvaccinated for about six weeks this past summer before it came back. No capacity restrictions came back though, yet.

Visiting here I noticed that despite no indoor mask mandate a ton of people still wear masks (like in Target) and the amount of people wearing masks outdoors is not what I'd expect. This thread is the only evidence I have that wearing masks in the OC is controversial. Otherwise my impression was that it was no big deal.

Most of those people are well behaved “trained” folk from LA county which is just a hop, skip and a Jump away from Disneyland.
 

Roy G. Dis

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Most of those people are well behaved “trained” folk from LA county which is just a hop, skip and a Jump away from Disneyland.
Yeah I'm a pretty well trained monkey myself when it comes to masking but I'm not going to wear one outdoors unless I'm required to or I feel super duper aware of people breathing on me. To each their own though. I'm just trying to soak up this Socal weather that's been playing hide and seek for the last five days!
 

TP2000

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I ran errands this afternoon. As expected, Trader Joe’s and Ralph’s Fresh Fare had many fellow shoppers unmasked. I even chatted with the unmasked manager at Ralph’s. It’s on the “honor system”. 🤣

It’s not controversial at all In OC.

The very high price of beef at Ralph’s, however….
 

Emmanuel

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Original Poster
Yeah I'm a pretty well trained monkey myself when it comes to masking but I'm not going to wear one outdoors unless I'm required to or I feel super duper aware of people breathing on me. To each their own though. I'm just trying to soak up this Socal weather that's been playing hide and seek for the last five days!

The only theme parks I've been to have been Disneyland and Knotts. Where I wear masks at both parks outdoors depends on the crowd levels of both places. Disneyland in most cases outdoors I'll wear them. Knotts on the other hand, if I go on a day thats empty then the masks stay in the bag until needed. That happened on a Tuesday in October when Knotts was literally empty that most rides were walk ons. Knotts on weekends however, i'll only have the mask on outdoors if crowds increase in the afternoon but mainly off in the opening and closing hour.

Interestingly enough, San Fransisco is exempted from the indoor mask mandate

 

smooch

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Reading this now… Guidance does appear that vaccination/testing checks at outdoor (10K+ persons) mega events would still be “recommended” vs “required”, as is the case with respect to having a required vax/test requirement for indoor events at 1K+ persons.
This was my experience at a music festival a few months back down in Oakland. Masks were "recommended" but not required. I personally wore mine, but was around plenty of people who didn't. I know realistically wearing my mask around others who aren't isn't very effective at keeping me safe but I'm vaccinated and have the booster and I never ended up sick from the festival. Laws aside, logistically it's gonna be impossible to enforce mask wearing at any large event like that. You're in a literal sea of bodies, they can't see everyone and enforce masks. I did have to either show I'm vaccinated or tested negative to get in but that's common at any sort of event / gathering.

I think in my ideal world it will operate how my few concert experiences since COVID have, both indoors and outdoors, where you show vaccination or a negative test and then are recommended to wear a mask but not required. That way you will cut down the amount of people who might unknowingly have COVID and show up (I know there are still cases who test negative but actually have it and get into events) and spread it around, but you don't have to task employees / staff with enforcing hundreds / thousands of people to wear a mask. If you want to wear one to feel safe (like I chose to do) then go ahead and go for it, if you don't want to wear one, then you are vaccinated or tested negative and are unlikely to spread COVID.
 

MoonRakerSCM

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Went and saw Spiderman today in Orange County... masks were worn going into the theatre by all, but once in the theatre and sat, not a single person was wearing a mask. Went to a local brewery afterward (and somehow spent 6 HOURS there without realizing it). 99% of customers with no masks and no masks on the staff. We had a great time.
 

Parteecia

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Typical California elitist....and typical Californian that is clueless to what's actually going on....as you continue to vote in policies that ruin the once great state.
I guess I am. I was born and raised here, only left for college then came right back. I see CA as aspirational and I am in favor of most of its policies. Diverse opinions! What is "actually going on?"
 

smooch

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Depends on the mask and the fit. A well-fitted N95 mask is very good at keeping you from getting infected. That plus full vaccination, and you're golden. :)
I don't have any N95's I wear KN94's so better than a common mask, but also it's just way more comfortable to wear for extended periods of time. Doesn't bother me while working, didn't bother me when I was at a music festival for about 10 hours, it fits fine and protects me reasonably well and I feel safe wearing it. I mean so far they have done their job keeping me safe.
 

Dear Prudence

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Californians should already own KN95s and N95s because of fire season. I have been wearing one of their one of those with a cloth mask for stretches at a time even before Covid. Sad we are still in this position (on both accounts, honestly), but here we are. :(
 

Dear Prudence

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This was my experience at a music festival a few months back down in Oakland. Masks were "recommended" but not required. I personally wore mine, but was around plenty of people who didn't. I know realistically wearing my mask around others who aren't isn't very effective at keeping me safe but I'm vaccinated and have the booster and I never ended up sick from the festival. Laws aside, logistically it's gonna be impossible to enforce mask wearing at any large event like that. You're in a literal sea of bodies, they can't see everyone and enforce masks. I did have to either show I'm vaccinated or tested negative to get in but that's common at any sort of event / gathering.

I think in my ideal world it will operate how my few concert experiences since COVID have, both indoors and outdoors, where you show vaccination or a negative test and then are recommended to wear a mask but not required. That way you will cut down the amount of people who might unknowingly have COVID and show up (I know there are still cases who test negative but actually have it and get into events) and spread it around, but you don't have to task employees / staff with enforcing hundreds / thousands of people to wear a mask. If you want to wear one to feel safe (like I chose to do) then go ahead and go for it, if you don't want to wear one, then you are vaccinated or tested negative and are unlikely to spread COVID.
Can I ask, was it the Second Sky Festival? I was gonna say, because the Collesium at least has the room to move around and avoid people if/ when needed.
 

TP2000

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A few random thoughts on masks, from a maskless state...

The kids in the family organized a Christmas vacation in Arizona in an Airbnb complex in a mountain resort town. Heavenly! Not a mask to be seen anywhere, everyone just wandering around vaccinated and healthy and happy.

Went to a steakhouse last night for dinner, the place was packed. No masks on any employee. It looked so... normal.

30 minutes ago I got a flurry of very profane texts from old friends from Raleigh, North Carolina who are staying in my beach house in La Jolla this week so their extended family can attend the Holiday Bowl; UCLA vs. NC State. Apparently the UCLA and UC system bureaucrats just cancelled the Holiday Bowl about four hours before kickoff tonight due to Covid. Unbelievable. The NC fans in town are furious, in addition to being out cross country airfare, hotels, expenses, etc. Not a good look for the University of California system. For an outdoor game played by young, fully vaccinated, and extremely healthy college students. To make things even worse, it's cold and drizzly in San Diego today, with heavy rain expected tomorrow.

That's a cancellation decision that defies scientific knowledge about Covid. o_O
 

Disney Irish

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A few random thoughts on masks, from a maskless state...

The kids in the family organized a Christmas vacation in Arizona in an Airbnb complex in a mountain resort town. Heavenly! Not a mask to be seen anywhere, everyone just wandering around vaccinated and healthy and happy.

Went to a steakhouse last night for dinner, the place was packed. No masks on any employee. It looked so... normal.

30 minutes ago I got a flurry of very profane texts from old friends from Raleigh, North Carolina who are staying in my beach house in La Jolla this week so their extended family can attend the Holiday Bowl; UCLA vs. NC State. Apparently the UCLA and UC system bureaucrats just cancelled the Holiday Bowl about four hours before kickoff tonight due to Covid. Unbelievable. The NC fans in town are furious, in addition to being out cross country airfare, hotels, expenses, etc. Not a good look for the University of California system. For an outdoor game played by young, fully vaccinated, and extremely healthy college students. To make things even worse, it's cold and drizzly in San Diego today, with heavy rain expected tomorrow.

That's a cancellation decision that defies scientific knowledge about Covid. o_O
Just to be clear the Holiday Bowl was cancelled due to an outbreak of COVID among the UCLA defensive players. They didn't have enough defensive players to field a team. The game was cancelled because of the COVID protocols enforced by the NCAA not California, UCLA, or even the UC system.

Also note there were other canceled games because of COVID, Friday’s Hawaii Bowl (because of Hawaii), Monday’s Military Bowl (Boston College), Wednesday’s Fenway Bowl (Virginia) and this week’s Arizona Bowl (Boise State). Texas A&M had to withdraw from Friday’s Gator Bowl because of COVID issues.

So lets not make this a "California" thing, it was across a lot of the Bowl games in many other states.
 

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