MK Big Thunder Mountain to receive full retrack

[HMF]

Legally, it likely isn’t considered temporary. Per the EPCOT Building Code a structure is only temporary if it is up for less than 180 days (3103.1).

Using steel also means they were able to just pound them right in place without having to build more intensive foundations.

So, by that definition the wand and the hat certainly were not "temporary".

 

[Touchdown]

You actually think they would actually bother spending the money on theming it?

No, that’s not what I’m saying, what I’m saying is that some of the justification given by others was that it was put up to shield the ride and riders from dust and debris. With the fence (other then the posts) ending 6-9 ft from the ground that justification is not true, construction dust and light debris are going to waft into the ride with a light breeze.

 

[Br0ckford]

You actually think they would actually bother spending the money on theming it?

I mean it's wood and vaguely brown.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The fact that they refused to give WDI the money to do it right was also a major factor and the concept was questionable to say the least.

Concept aside, its sad to know WDI wasn't given the money to do it right.

WDI was not given the money to do it right but they opened the ride anyway?

I presume WDI did not realize the damage the Rocket Rods were going to do to the track till after the fact?

Maybe WDI said not to open it and management said to open it?

It would be interesting to learn what happened behind the scenes.

 

[Skibum1970]

Just rode BTMR last week. The fence was in place but I didn't really notice it. My only criticism is the reveal of the mountain's heart. The front cars barely get a glimpse and they could have installed some more special effects lighting to give the veins of gold a pulse. The ride was very smooth, though.

 

[Professortango1]

The fact that they refused to give WDI the money to do it right was also a major factor and the concept was questionable to say the least.

The concept was great. Even the ride itself was a huge improvement when it was operating. The issues were that the cost-cutting execution made it so that the ride couldn't reliably operate. The concept though...tons of fun and much better than the PM in the early 90's.

 

[Bocabear]

It had such promise... I remember talking to a friend that worked there at the time in an executive position... He said it was all budget cuts at the end...None of the show scenes were ever built for it, they punched holes in coffee cans and put them over light bulbs to make star patters.... Chasing christmas light ... It was a mess...but the idea was fantastic.... I waited in that line once... that was enough... I think I rode iot 3 or 4 times total...

 

[Professortango1]

It had such promise... I remember talking to a friend that worked there at the time in an executive position... He said it was all budget cuts at the end...None of the show scenes were ever built for it, they punched holes in coffee cans and put them over light bulbs to make star patters.... Chasing christmas light ... It was a mess...but the idea was fantastic.... I waited in that line once... that was enough... I think I rode iot 3 or 4 times total...

Yeah, the show scenes were mild improvements to the empty corridors which were there before. But they got rid of the embarrassing Tron Tunnel and at the speeds we were traveling at, the limited aspect was fine. I liked the mirror gag. The finale of zooming over the Autopia was always the best section.

 

[britain]

Just to be EVEN MORE of a cad, here's an updated image from Tokyo with 5-rides-in-one! (Yes, that's a canoe.)

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[TrainsOfDisney]

Just to be EVEN MORE of a cad, here's an updated image from Tokyo with 5-rides-in-one! (Yes, that's a canoe.)
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I got to get over there before they take that away too! Love how big thunder and splash face each other.

 

[UNCgolf]

Memory isn’t a perfect recording like a lot of people assume. Experiences do get layered and remixed. It’s not some character flaw or deception, but just how the brain works. So yes, being able to discern the minute differences of an experience repeated over decades would absolutely require a super human memory.

Yep.

Most people don't realize that many of their memories, especially from decades ago, never actually happened. Not necessarily that they didn't happen at all (although some didn't; there are plenty of fabricated memories), but that what they remember isn't exactly the same as what truly happened in the moment. It's often fragments of true events filled in with fiction.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Does anyone know how much a coaster speed is changed from gravity / etc.?

 

[gorillaball]

Il’d like to confess I was wrong about the wall. I stated I didn’t think it was purely to block views (based on how they put in the support beams), that appears to be a false assumption on my part.

You actually think they would actually bother spending the money on theming it?

Because Disney has a track record of not theming construction walls? I feel like they go out of their way and try to make each wall/scrim fit in with the environment.

Not sure what you would theme this one as, given its location. Go away brown might be best option at the current time.

 

[flynnibus]

Does anyone know how much a coaster speed is changed from gravity / etc.?

changed from gravity?

If you are asking how much a coaster speed will change due to variations.. (like temperature, rider load, etc) it can vary, but it still stays within boundaries. That's what the brake runs do for you.. ride control will bring the train back to expected speeds. So variations are kept to short periods.. and the ride as a whole continues to operate within it's intended intervals so multi-trains and cycle times remain compatible.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yep.

Most people don't realize that many of their memories, especially from decades ago, never actually happened. Not necessarily that they didn't happen at all (although some didn't; there are plenty of fabricated memories), but that what they remember isn't exactly the same as what truly happened in the moment. It's often fragments of true events filled in with fiction.

So I never actually wet myself on Universe of Energy? Wow, that’s a relief.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

it can vary, but it still stays within boundaries. That's what the brake runs do for you.. ride control will bring the train back to expected speeds. So variations are kept to short periods.. and the ride as a whole continues to operate within it's intended intervals so multi-trains and cycle times remain compatible.

That’s a whole lot of words that tells me absolutely nothing I didn’t already know.

A ride like big thunder, how much will it vary. Under 1mph? 1-2? 2-4? That’s what I was asking.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Gemini says 2-5 mph

 

[larryz]

Maybe you're just like my mother, she's never satisfied.

Why do we scream at each other? This is what it sounds like when doves cry.

We Are Not Amused.

 

[larryz]

Big Thunder Mountain Railroad Wall Now in Place Blocking Piston Peak Construction Sightlines​

A construction wall around Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now complete, cutting off views into the Piston Peak build site from the coaster. The structure is expected to stay in place for several years as Piston Peak construction continues.

Big Thunder Mountain Railroad Wall Now in Place Blocking Piston Peak Construction Sightlines

A permanent-looking construction wall around Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is now complete, blocking views of the Piston Peak build site ahead of the ride's May 3 reopening.

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Why would they use such massive steel beams for a temporary fence?

I hope that wall is rated for hurricane-force winds...

 

[dmc493]

I hope that wall is rated for hurricane-force winds...

I'd assume this is another reason it's steel beams driven into the ground