News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

DisneyRoy

Well-Known Member
Here are updated descriptions for CommuniCore Hall and Plaza:

CommuniCore Hall
Take a moment to enjoy the offerings at this comfortable retreat. Designed to celebrate the architectural legacy of EPCOT, CommuniCore Hall features a façade of geodesic triangles, expressed in innovative materials and configurations—bringing energy and dynamism to the entire area throughout the day and into the night

Highlights
  • Make magical memories at Mickey & Friends, a dedicated Character-greeting location!
  • Unwind in a relaxing indoor space—complete with tables and chairs so you can bring in food from nearby locations.
  • Enjoy seasonal experiences throughout the year in flexible gathering and event spaces—including art exhibitions, live entertainment, cooking demonstrations and more.
CommuniCore Plaza
Rejuvenate in this outdoor gathering space, filled with flavor and fun. During the day, stroll through the picturesque gardens that surround the plaza. And at night, take in the beautiful, playful lighting that complements the entire World Celebration neighborhood.

Highlights
  • Enjoy seasonal live entertainment—all year round.
  • Delight in wonderful daytime and nighttime entertainment that varies throughout the year.
  • For a limited time, join other Guests for a fun-filled fiesta, ¡Celebración Encanto!—where the whole family can play trivia, dance and sing along to some favorite of your favorite songs from the beloved Disney film Encanto!
  • Savor taste sensations from Festival Favorites, which has a menu that changes during the year, featuring seasonal dishes from popular festival offerings.
So all of the cool exhibits that used to be in the Innoventions buildings are just...gone. We used to spend so much time in there playing with all the cool things. Such a shame.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Some thoughts:

  • The hub now is much better than before even without a fountain. The concrete expanse was dreary and draining. And yes, the light-up rings need to be fixed, stat.

  • JoW is a treat day or night.

  • We're getting live entertainment day and night in the hub. People were moaning for more live entertainment. We got it. Why the crickets?

  • The new flex space looks better than the old flex space. It's not a theme park destination unless you need A/C or get out of the rain or a place to eat your kiosk food. Since it's not a destination, it's not decorated. When they have something happening in there (probably connected to a festival -- and there are no current festivals for the Summer), it will likely be nicely appointed. It's a flex space. Not a full-time attraction. Altho one big critique is that while the Men's Room is nicer than what was there before, someone at Disney still doesn't understand that a modesty panel isn't modest if it's tiny.

  • The hub at night with all the synchronized lights (sans rings, unfortunately) looks great. I look forward to Communicore Hall adding to the light-bath now the walls are down. I'll be there in just a few weeks to take it all in.

  • Overall, when comparing what's there now to what was there before, it's all wins. If one wants to compare it to some ideal space that 'should have been'... well, the good will always lose to the perfect ideal that one has created in their headspace.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Some thoughts:

  • The hub now is much better than before even without a fountain. The concrete expanse was dreary and draining. And yes, the light-up rings need to be fixed, stat.

  • JoW is a treat day or night.

  • We're getting live entertainment day and night in the hub. People were moaning for more live entertainment. We got it. Why the crickets?

  • The new flex space looks better than the old flex space. It's not a theme park destination unless you need A/C or get out of the rain or a place to eat your kiosk food. Since it's not a destination, it's not decorated. When they have something happening in there (probably connected to a festival -- and there are no current festivals for the Summer), it will likely be nicely appointed. It's a flex space. Not a full-time attraction. Altho one big critique is that while the Men's Room is nicer than what was there before, someone at Disney still doesn't understand that a modesty panel isn't modest if it's tiny.

  • The hub at night with all the synchronized lights (sans rings, unfortunately) looks great. I look forward to Communicore Hall adding to the light-bath now the walls are down. I'll be there in just a few weeks to take it all in.

  • Overall, when comparing what's there now to what was there before, it's all wins. If one wants to compare it to some ideal space that 'should have been'... well, the good will always lose to the perfect ideal that one has created in their headspace.
Here's a big one: it doesn't smell like sewage any more!
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Overall, when comparing what's there now to what was there before, it's all wins. If one wants to compare it to some ideal space that 'should have been'... well, the good will always lose to the perfect ideal that one has created in their headspace.

Communicore Hall is definitely not better than what was there before, but that aside, it's not really the good losing to the perfect.

In this case, it's the below average losing to the average or better. As I said above, I'm not giving out gold stars for improving from a D to a C.

Is it an improvement? Yes, it is, but it's hard for me to imagine anyone looking at this and thinking it was worth the time and money Disney spent on it. It feels like something that could have been done in about a third of time for a third of the cost (at least if Journey of Water is excluded, which I suppose is a little unfair).
 
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chriswacy

Active Member
The new flex space looks better than the old flex space. It's not a theme park destination unless you need A/C or get out of the rain or a place to eat your kiosk food. Since it's not a destination, it's not decorated. When they have something happening in there (probably connected to a festival -- and there are no current festivals for the Summer), it will likely be nicely appointed. It's a flex space. Not a full-time attraction. Altho one big critique is that while the Men's Room is nicer than what was there before, someone at Disney still doesn't understand that a modesty panel isn't modest if it's tiny.

Hear me out: What if they put literally anything to look at inside
 

easyrowrdw

Well-Known Member
Overall the amount of time, money, and effort put into this "overhaul" was not even remotely worth it in the end.
Is it an improvement? Yes, it is, but it's hard for me to imagine anyone looking at this and thinking it was worth the time and money Disney spent on it. It feels like something that could have been done in about a third of time for a third of the cost (at least if Journey of Water is excluded, which I suppose is a little unfair).
These sum up my feelings on many of Disney's recent additions. I think most of the changes have been improvements, but given the time and money spent on them, they should be better.
Agreed.

Any fan who dislikes the IP mandate/park pivot should be visiting Awesome Planet and Canada Far & Wide every vacation to support the first IP-free investments at WDW in years.

Otherwise, their low attendance will be another (misleading) data point for TDO to argue that only studio IP attractions are worthwhile.
Movies are not attractions that serve a great interest to me. I watched the Canada movie, but I'd be more likely to visit and revisit a Canada ride. We do the Mexico boat ride way more than any movies (IP or non-IP).
 
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ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Gotta admit that space inside CommuniCore looks super bland. Hopefully it's Diet Epcot theming and we'll get some neat displays during Festivals.
Honestly, it kinda feels like you'd expect an expo hall to look inbetween festivals...

They really need to come up with a legitimate summer festival next year now that they have all this covered space they could use.
 

dreamfinding

Well-Known Member
The hub at night with all the synchronized lights (sans rings, unfortunately) looks great. I look forward to Communicore Hall adding to the light-bath now the walls are down. I'll be there in just a few weeks to take it all in.
Why haven’t the rings been replaced? Why bother installing cool things when you can’t maintain them?
 

BasiltheBatLord

Well-Known Member
Some thoughts:

  • The hub now is much better than before even without a fountain. The concrete expanse was dreary and draining. And yes, the light-up rings need to be fixed, stat.

  • JoW is a treat day or night.

  • We're getting live entertainment day and night in the hub. People were moaning for more live entertainment. We got it. Why the crickets?

  • The new flex space looks better than the old flex space. It's not a theme park destination unless you need A/C or get out of the rain or a place to eat your kiosk food. Since it's not a destination, it's not decorated. When they have something happening in there (probably connected to a festival -- and there are no current festivals for the Summer), it will likely be nicely appointed. It's a flex space. Not a full-time attraction. Altho one big critique is that while the Men's Room is nicer than what was there before, someone at Disney still doesn't understand that a modesty panel isn't modest if it's tiny.

  • The hub at night with all the synchronized lights (sans rings, unfortunately) looks great. I look forward to Communicore Hall adding to the light-bath now the walls are down. I'll be there in just a few weeks to take it all in.

  • Overall, when comparing what's there now to what was there before, it's all wins. If one wants to compare it to some ideal space that 'should have been'... well, the good will always lose to the perfect ideal that one has created in their headspace.
Agree. I never visited Epcot before the 2000s so I have no nostalgia for the Epcot Center days. I'm not a fan of every change that was made, but on the whole what's there now is infinitely preferable to what was there before (a dying, irrelevant theme park).
 

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