News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Besides the back of the Festival Center and losing FoN, every change made to FW was a massive aesthetic and functional improvement.
No it wasn’t, but there you go. This whole project has been a disaster once you get past the lack of tombstones.

Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. I have a feeling we’ll agree to disagree on this.
 
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Bocabear

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No reason they couldn't just be relocated with an even better train layout. The one they have is fine, but they could do much better...and the Germany attraction could be a train ride through the German countryside...which might be a little better than the boat ride that was originally planned...
 

Epcot82Guy

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No it wasn’t, but there you go. This whole project has been a disaster once you get past the lack of tombstones.

Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. I have a feeling we’ll agree to disagree on this.

I agree. But, even to play devil's advocate, I think it's tough to argue this isn't "development by committee" or, more simply, disjointed. Epcot feels like a Powerpoint made by 5 people and slapped together at the last minute. The biggest loss is a park that had the most cohesive, overarching theme into one of the most disjointed (both at the park and "land" level). When they were doing bandaid fixes over years, I can see how it can get that way (looking at you Tomorrowland...). But, this just had a massive, park-wide overhaul. And, it made this aspect worse, not better.

I think there are other criticisms to be made, but I find it very difficult to argue against that.
 

lazyboy97o

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I am still amazed at how they went from showing a cool looking futuristic building as the main event center with a garden on top and open shade area at the bottom to what they actually built. They spend millions on other insignificant thing and they could not budget a building?
The festival center never made any sense. Be it financially or programmatically. It was about hiring a starchitect because Eisner used to hire starchitects. For most visitors the experience would have been a big concrete floor, a big concrete ceiling and no air conditioning. It wouldn’t have been a good space to actually do much of anything.
 

Vinnie Mac

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I've been a big supporter of the current era of Epcot but the new Communicore hall genuinely angers me. It is so bland and sterile and plain looking and I really don't think seeing it in person will change that for me personally. I think it's col to have an event space but knowing what this was SUPPOSED to be... It's sad.

On one hand, I am excited to see how DIsnye utilizes the stage area for New Years because it could be a great party space.

As someone who's career goal is to get into themed architecture, I wonder what has happened within Disney imagineering the reason why the architecture on property has fallen off dramatically. Like between the DVC resorts and the Epcot redesign, what the hell is going on??
 

Bocabear

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Why did we need a "Flex Space" to begin with? For the festivals? Ok, I will buy that, but it doesn't seem purpose set up for festivals...It just seems like a big empty charmless room. Since it was purpose built for the Festivals could it not have been designed to reflect that? This is supposed to be World Celebration, Could they have designed the space to look like a celebration? Could it have been designed to look lively and beautiful? Did it have to look like a an abandones shopping mall or high school cafeteria?
 

ABQ

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Weddings and private events.
Couldn't this place be used for that? Have to excuse my ignorance on whatever is happening with this pavilion these days.
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WorldExplorer

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I walked through the festival center and past the new meet area today.

All else aside, the wait for Mickey and friends (I presume Minnie and Goofy since they were gone from their spots) was 25 minutes and already had a ton of people standing outside in the heat. I didn't get to see how much of the queue went inside, but the entire outdoor switchback was full.

It's an entirely new building, right? Not a retrofit? It seems like really poor planning for it to not even be able to handle a twenty five minute line without having a huge segment of that queue wait outside.

I know Red Carpet Dreams (Hollywood Studios Mickey and Minnie spot) also has an outside queue, but I'm sure guests would rather they not copy that.
 
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