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Bocabear

Bocabear

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The Leader of the Club said:
Disney never said “expect a ride update to be announced!” If you were disappointed by that, I think your expectations were too high.

I’ve always seen the Figment M&G as an important step towards a new ride update. It allowed execs to see first-hand how beloved that character is.
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They have to be blind and stupid to not see that already.... the crazy lines for the Figment popcorn bucket...the constant chatter about everyone wanting a return of Figment and the Dreamfinder.... They are aware....they know...they just don't care....
 
The Leader of the Club

The Leader of the Club

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Bocabear said:
They have to be blind and stupid to not see that already.... the crazy lines for the Figment popcorn bucket...the constant chatter about everyone wanting a return of Figment and the Dreamfinder.... They are aware....they know...they just don't care....
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If people at Disney didn't care, we wouldn't have gotten the popcorn bucket, M&G character, or any of the merch that's been created in the past few years. I think the higher-ups just need more evidence that there is an audience other than APs and nerds on the internet who would care if they invested millions in a new Figment attraction.
 
GenChi

GenChi

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The Leader of the Club said:
Disney never said “expect a ride update to be announced!” If you were disappointed by that, I think your expectations were too high.

I’ve always seen the Figment M&G as an important step towards a new ride update. It allowed execs to see first-hand how beloved that character is.
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Ultimately I think it is how it was presented. The "one more announcement" approach to announcing it at the end of a set of park announcements twice in a row, for D23 last year the costume reveal was the very last announcement IIRC. Watching the first livestream for a few seconds it really did feel like they were going to do it, M&G is a great thing but should have been more subdued in the middle of WDW announcements because if revamp ever happens it absolutely will be the last WDW or overall announcement at one of these panels.
Fox&Hound said:
I will never forgive them for that fake out Figment reveal. Who loves Figment???? Here is a meet and greet and not the ride update you are all expecting. It was cruel in every sense. I honestly lost a lot of respect for DIS that day!
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You all ready for the annual Figment fake out this year? Film announcement would be worth it, but debating if we're getting new merch and popcorn buckets, Dreamfinder returning for the meet and greet, a new Figment revamp of the DVC lounge...
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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The Leader of the Club said:
If people at Disney didn't care, we wouldn't have gotten the popcorn bucket, M&G character, or any of the merch that's been created in the past few years. I think the higher-ups just need more evidence that there is an audience other than APs and nerds on the internet who would care if they invested millions in a new Figment attraction.
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If there were enough complaints that they actually closed Journey Into Imagination to retool the ride and add the character back in, there are numbers more than Disney Nerds and APs that would care...
there is absolutely no risk for them to replace a lackluster, dated and tired ride with a new attraction featuring characters that guests actually care about... Those that don't know about the characters will learn just like we did....Figment was THE IP for EPCOT...
 
TeriofTerror

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What Disney fans hear, whenever anything is presented as "Phase Two":
 

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Vclguy90

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The Leader of the Club said:
If people at Disney didn't care, we wouldn't have gotten the popcorn bucket, M&G character, or any of the merch that's been created in the past few years. I think the higher-ups just need more evidence that there is an audience other than APs and nerds on the internet who would care if they invested millions in a new Figment attraction.
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You look at the popcorn bucket as something that Disney is listening to us about? I mean, they have known Figmant was popular since debut. But please don't misconstrue the popcorn bucket for us being heard. If anything the popcorn bucket was a slap in the face while telling us to 'shut up.' They absolutely know we hate it, but it's just 'ok' enough to not use money to change it back to a crowd favorite.
 
Rodj

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Vclguy90 said:
You look at the popcorn bucket as something that Disney is listening to us about? I mean, they have known Figmant was popular since debut. But please don't misconstrue the popcorn bucket for us being heard. If anything the popcorn bucket was a slap in the face while telling us to 'shut up.' They absolutely know we hate it, but it's just 'ok' enough to not use money to change it back to a crowd favorite.
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This person who has insider knowledge says otherwise:
Moth said:
Figment is safe.

Any Pixar IP has been shot down (Soul and Inside Out) due to some significant individuals not wanting him to leave. And from what I've heard, the popcorn bucket woke them up to realizing how popular he is. The days of worrying about him leaving are behind us, now it's just 'what do they do with him?'.
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MR.Dis

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Bocabear said:
If there were enough complaints that they actually closed Journey Into Imagination to retool the ride and add the character back in, there are numbers more than Disney Nerds and APs that would care...
there is absolutely no risk for them to replace a lackluster, dated and tired ride with a new attraction featuring characters that guests actually care about... Those that don't know about the characters will learn just like we did....Figment was THE IP for EPCOT...
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Yes, I too would love a reboot of Figment and the Dreamfinder. But was just thinking, there is a whole generation that has no clue as to who/what the Dreamfinder is. Every year that goes by we lose more and more fans of this attraction to loss of memory or death. Are the powers that be just waiting us out until there are no more left to lament this special attraction???
 
DisDude33

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MR.Dis said:
Yes, I too would love a reboot of Figment and the Dreamfinder. But was just thinking, there is a whole generation that has no clue as to who/what the Dreamfinder is. Every year that goes by we lose more and more fans of this attraction to loss of memory or death. Are the powers that be just waiting us out until there are no more left to lament this special attraction???
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This is actually something I talk about with people a lot. I’m 38 and have been going to the parks since the late nineties but I never saw the dreamfinder and have no real connection with him or his version of the ride. My only experience with Figment is the current version of the ride and it honestly never endeared him to me.
 
Basil of Baker Street

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DisDude23 said:
This is actually something I talk about with people a lot. I’m 38 and have been going to the parks since the late nineties but I never saw the dreamfinder and have no real connection with him or his version of the ride. My only experience with Figment is the current version of the ride and it honestly never endeared him to me.
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I'm the same way. I guess it's why I have no real attachment to Figment that a lot of people seem to have.
 
UNCgolf

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I've always argued that Figment doesn't really work well without Dreamfinder (doesn't have to be Dreamfinder specifically, but some kind of similar figure). Figment needs that framing, so I'm not surprised by some of these comments.

It obviously doesn't help that the original ride was one of Disney's best and the current one is awful, though.
 
SilentWindODoom

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UNCgolf said:
I've always argued that Figment doesn't really work well without Dreamfinder (doesn't have to be Dreamfinder specifically, but some kind of similar figure). Figment needs that framing, so I'm not surprised by some of these comments.

It obviously doesn't help that the original ride was one of Disney's best and the current one is awful, though.
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Admittedly, he has a framing now. A foil played by a much beloved actor. It's just that the ride itself is a shadow of its former self.

I never experienced the old ride... At least, I don't remember it. My only memory of Future World was the jumping fountains. My only experience with it has been Martin's video. But any fan with any passing knowledge of history should be aware, especially with the popularity of Defunctland and other such second-hand historians/video producers. But... it's strange to say all of our hopes are on Seth Rogen.
 
UNCgolf

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SilentWindODoom said:
Admittedly, he has a framing now. A foil played by a much beloved actor. It's just that the ride itself is a shadow of its former self.

I never experienced the old ride... At least, I don't remember it. My only memory of Future World was the jumping fountains. My only experience with it has been Martin's video. But any fan with any passing knowledge of history should be aware, especially with the popularity of Defunctland and other such second-hand historians/video producers. But... it's strange to say all of our hopes are on Seth Rogen.
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Yeah, but the framing is part of the problem -- Eric Idle's character in the current ride is very different from the Dreamfinder character. Idle is almost the antagonist.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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The videos don't capture how amazing that ride was...especially the introduction with Dreamfinder and his flying machine.......and basically following him on the turntable...It was remarkable...Some of the Dreamport would have been helped with new technology, but it was a grand complete attraction...that then lead to more things to do... How they ruined this concept in the redo I cannot begin to understand....especially why they have not gone back and fixed it.
 

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