OSUPhantom
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I could see that but I’m not yet convinced.
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I can kind of get it on the basis that DHS is the anti-Magic Kingdom mirrorverse so... Villains. And it'd give the park some needing family attractions. And I think Cars (as Radiator Springs Racers) fits well enough in MK and further props up the rumor of a "desert" land. Cactus Canyon.
DisneyDodo
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No, they’re different ride systems. Dinosaur (and Indy in both Cali and Tokyo) use the EMV (enhanced motion vehicle) system, which is essentially a ride vehicle on top of a motion simulator.
TT, RSR, and JttCotE in Tokyo use the slot-car system, which only allows for traditional forward motion, but can reach much higher speeds.
djkidkaz
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Villains at DHS would make sense as they have been try to have premium events at that park for a long time. The Halloween parties at MK sell out almost every event, you could do something with Villians at DHS for Halloween and increase event capacity by doing a Villians party on opposite nights, then go right into Jingle Bam parties running opposite MVMCP.
DisneyDodo
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RSR and TT are such drastically different rides that I don’t see it as an issue. The only parts of the rides that are in any way comparable are the fast parts at the end, but the scenery (or lack thereof in TT’s case) is so different that it’s really no more similar than 2 roller coasters that travel at similar speeds.
Enclosing the outdoor section of TT in a projection tunnel (which unfortunately does not appear to be in the cards for the current revamp) could be a way to further differentiate them. But I wouldn’t enclose RSR, as the gorgeous views of the canyon are such a vital component of the ride.
MerlinTheGoat
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Is it just Brayden making these RSR claims, or was it backed up by anyone else credible?
I'm split on his credibility at the moment. He did get the Country Bears change correct (it was either they were changing the show or getting rid of it, i can't recall which he said was the case or more likely). And it seems inevitable that at least the Pecos Bills corner is likely to be New Orleans-ified at some point in the near future.
The canyon scenery of RSR probably isn't really a bad idea. It's the googly eyed 21st century racecars and track that ruins it all (plus any other modern intrusions around the latter parts of the interior scenes). Filling in the river and docking the riverboat is unacceptable though.
I'm split on his credibility at the moment. He did get the Country Bears change correct (it was either they were changing the show or getting rid of it, i can't recall which he said was the case or more likely). And it seems inevitable that at least the Pecos Bills corner is likely to be New Orleans-ified at some point in the near future.
The canyon scenery of RSR probably isn't really a bad idea. It's the googly eyed 21st century racecars and track that ruins it all (plus any other modern intrusions around the latter parts of the interior scenes). Filling in the river and docking the riverboat is unacceptable though.
DisneyDodo
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So villains will be serving as transportation vehicles while cars spook people and cause trouble?
Definitely not the direction I would have gone…
djkidkaz
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The main problem I see with Cars Land going in at MK is that the whole idea is to increase capacity at Magic Kingdom by using one of the last expansion plots. Putting in an e-ticket ride that will go down all the time during the Florida rain and lightning storms would defeat the purpose.
I actually would love to see Cars Land at WDW whether in MK or DHS. I think it would work well with tying in BTMRR to the area and I could see the train driving through the Cars area to add kinetics, especially if they get rid of the Liberty boat.
I actually would love to see Cars Land at WDW whether in MK or DHS. I think it would work well with tying in BTMRR to the area and I could see the train driving through the Cars area to add kinetics, especially if they get rid of the Liberty boat.
GhostHost1000
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Well yes I know the enhanced motion vehicle part, but I assumed the underlying track design for the vehicles themselves was similar. Maybe not
osian
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In the same way that Barnstormer is technically a Space Mountain style ride, yes I suppose so, but I think what people were getting at was the ride experience. But I too think that RSR and TT are similar experiences and would seem odd to have them in the same park at any rate, if not the same resort, whereas I don't see any similarity between TT and Dinosaur at all. I also think it's odd to have Web Slingers and Toy Story Mania in the same park, not only similar ride system but similar experience.
Disnutz311
Disney World Purist
Western Steampunk look could be super cool with an original ride using Shanghai POTC tech. Double down and make a Journey into the Center of the Earth ride without the volcano. Like a modern/vintage/homage Western River Expedition. Better than shoehorning IP nobody wants. I could get down with that!!!
GhostHost1000
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I get what you’re saying but it’s also like saying we shouldn’t have Haunted Mansion and the Little Mermaid ride in MK along with Nemo and Epcot because it’s the same ride system
Disnutz311
Disney World Purist
So I have always loved the the idea of a Villians land like a lot of people on here do. But someone explain HOW they would actually do it. You got one E ticket attraction where all villains unite. Let's say it's Maleficent's Castle just for giggles. SO is that the whole land and Villians were "transported" there? Some people say boneyard in Lion King and Hades underworld would be cool as well. How does this fit all together. How do you walk from Boneyard to Maleficent's Castle with out some Marvel "Multiverse" BS.
I can visualize a lot of things. I create things in my daily life using space planning, design, architecture and imagination. But for the life of me, I can't figure out how a Villians land would work.
I can visualize a lot of things. I create things in my daily life using space planning, design, architecture and imagination. But for the life of me, I can't figure out how a Villians land would work.
I explained this last page. Just Villain only as a land.
You get chastised for it by some here.
We know it can be forced to be done. But it is not going to be smooth.
James Alucobond
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If I were doing it, I think I’d first transition from the New England end of Rivers of America with the Sanderson sisters’ cottage and the Southwest end with the mausoleum and graveyard from Coco. Ideally, these would go into a completely indoor land that could always be night, but you could make it work in the open air too. From there, it’s a dark bazaar, with winding streets filled with magic shops, artifact vendors, sketchy taverns, armament dealers, etc. Some could be legitimate shops, others restaurants, and still more queue facades. At the far end, you’d have some sort of castle or cathedral as the icon and main attraction; with everything else being generic, this could either be a specific character’s abode or something more nondescript.
DisneyDodo
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Conceptually, this would be no different from what we have in NFL, with areas themed to Snow White, TLM, and BatB all side-by-side.
Haymarket2008
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I don't know...Magic Kingdom has a certain elegance, grandeur and timelessness to it that MUST be maintained.
Single IP lands don't work with that. For some reason, I am okay with Villains....mainly as a tonal yin/yang to Fantasyland...but to plop Route 66 next to a really gorgeous attraction like Big Thunder....not right.
An indoor riff on Radiator Springs Racers would be great for DHS. Which, I believe, was one of the plans before Galaxy's Edge happened.
Single IP lands don't work with that. For some reason, I am okay with Villains....mainly as a tonal yin/yang to Fantasyland...but to plop Route 66 next to a really gorgeous attraction like Big Thunder....not right.
An indoor riff on Radiator Springs Racers would be great for DHS. Which, I believe, was one of the plans before Galaxy's Edge happened.
Disnutz311
Disney World Purist
Valid Point. Don't know why a Villian Land makes me not think that way. Maybe the terrain is easier to blend in NFL somehow. But does it work when it's only one E-Ticket attraction? Or do you think we are getting 3 new rides, 2 attractions, and multiple food outlets.
I guess one can hope.