News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

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Dranth

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Greg from Philly said:
I don't understand, both expansion stories include Encanto. I really must be the only one that thinks that movie sucked and in no way deserves it's own land. Maybe a puppet show or Encanto themed snack stand but not a whole land. Coco is not only a 10xs better movie but is more thematically sound for that area.
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No, there are plenty of other people with poor taste who didn't like it however, I believe currently Encanto is only going to AK. The makeup of the MK expansion seems to still be fluid but as of now, Coco is the one that may still be in both AK and MK.
 
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JMcMahonEsq

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UNCgolf said:
I think you missed his point.

It wasn't that they shouldn't ever put the same IP in multiple parks (although that is a bit silly, considering how much IP they have and how much of it is unused) -- it's that it doesn't make much sense to build two attractions based on the exact same conceit from the same IP at the same time.

Imagine they built Flight of Passage at Pandora while also building a banshee spinner at DHS at roughly the same time. It would make a lot more sense to use a different IP for the spinner.
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See I don't see any problem there. Both rides are different, both are from a popular IP source, and I would argue both fit well for IP/Ride. It's not like your just taking avatar IP and forcing it into a spinner ride. The idea your in/on a banshee and its spinning, fast quick movements, seems to work. If the ride works in isolation, with the IP, i don't see any concern about the same IP being used in another park. IF they built 2 different spinners, both using avatar IP, then maybe i see an issue.
 
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Purduevian

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Sectorkeeper71 said:
That and there isn’t really any space to expand the Mexico pavilion. Wedged between the odyssey and Norway
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I mean... if they were willing to move some backstage stuff and re-route the backstage access road there is a lot of room behind the frozen meet and greet. Red is ride/new pavilion space, Blue is re-routed backstage road, green is path to expanded area (assuming they don't want to reconfigure the right side of the pyramid to have an entrance). This seems like a very DLR thing to do though.

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J4546

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Off topic but I wish Soul would get some park love. I dont remember if the movie did well in theaters but I loed it and the music and scenery would be so cool to journey through. Maybe it could fit in a NO Jazzy themed area?
 
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Sectorkeeper71

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Purduevian said:
I mean... if they were willing to move some backstage stuff and re-route the backstage access road there is a lot of room behind the frozen meet and greet. Red is ride/new pavilion space, Blue is re-routed backstage road, green is path to expanded area (assuming they don't want to reconfigure the right side of the pyramid to have an entrance). This seems like a very DLR thing to do though.

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
You can solve that problem by getting rid of Odyssey
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Both of these are fair solutions; I think the former would be more likely since they seem hellbent on keeping the odyssey around as a flex space, and it’d be also kinda weird having Mexico jutting out into world celebration like that
 
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J4546

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Also, as much as id love a coco ride, id rather they put a ride in another pavilion/built another pavilion instead of adding to mexico which already has a cool boat ride. Theres a lack of rides in the se quadrant with china/italy/germany wheres there no rides and that area would def benefit from something big to balance it out with Rat on the SW quadrant.

So either use expansion apd for new pavilion, my vote goes for India or Brazil. Or add a ride to one of the 3 that are there, my vote would be Germany. I know they had a plan for a Rhine River Cruise and Id be cool with revisiting that, or something completely new.
 
DisneyDodo

DisneyDodo

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I can’t say for certain that Coco was scrapped from BBT, but that does seem like the most likely possibility. As I showed in a previous post, much of the Coco area originally slated for BBT was copied over to DAK. It’s true that Disney sometimes puts multiple attractions for the same IP in different parks, but this one doesn’t pass the smell test – if they were already moving Encanto out of BBT, that would leave more space for Coco there, not less, so why move half of the Coco stuff elsewhere (unless you are removing Coco from BBT altogether)? Especially considering how many other IP choices they had for TA, that decision would not have made much sense if they wanted Coco to have a presence at MK.

Nothing from the original Dinoland-replacement Blue Sky concept art is actually getting built there. We already know Encanto was moved out of BBT. I wouldn’t put too much stock in the BBT artwork coming to fruition.

Doesn’t mean we’ll never see the Flight of Pepita ride get built, but my guess is it’s not on the roadmap for right now.
 
DisneyDodo

DisneyDodo

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J4546 said:
Or add a ride to one of the 3 that are there, my vote would be Germany. I know they had a plan for a Rhine River Cruise and Id be cool with revisiting that, or something completely new.
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They are most certainly never adding the Rhine River Cruise. If they ever build something in that show building it would be tied to either Snow White or, more likely, Tangled.
 

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